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#33,503
dtsamples said:
Btw that fretted z is ugly I’ll hold it for you so no one sees
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I know..... it’s like a sheet of ply or something. Just plain ole wood grain.

you did see this one though. I figured I’d get Sheldon and team to splash some colour on it just to avoid those kinda statements.

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#33,509
AB Nate said:
Neat stuff!

the glockenklang basically takes the inherent qualities of the bass and added sparkly magical goodness to its organic sounds where as the Darkglass add the dark glass flavor.
To be clear what I was referring to with the stacking pot was that glockenklang sells a 3 band (stacked bass/ treble IIRC) that fits in a 2 band layout if you found you were looking for mid control from the glock.
The only thing with the stackable 3 band vs the 3 pot 3 band is you lose the passive tone control from the treble pot

hope that makes sense.
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Thank you yes that makes sense! Okay perfect, that is good info. I think I can make that work. Time to put this electrical engineering degree to work haha
 
#33,512
KentClarkOnBass said:
So far I'm really happy with my 2008-ish Super-J 5-string, the first short-scale Dingwall I've ever tried or even seen. But now I need some remedial short-scale education to get up to speed. I know the J and P are intended as improved takes on "the other leading brand's" Jazz and Precision. I've played both of those, of course, but never actually owned either one (go ahead, revoke my "real bass player" card). Apologies if these questions are basic, but hey, TalkBass is for... talking... about basses. So here goes:
  • What exactly is a Super-JP? Is that just a Super-J with P-style pickups in it?
  • For that matter, what's a Super-PJ? A Super-P with J-style pickups in it?
  • It seems Dingwall makes an effort for the stock pickups to give Jazz-like and Precision-like sounds. What sounds are people going for in replacing these? (I know it's limitless possibilities, but why replace pickups instead of getting a different bass).
  • In my walnut-sized-brain understanding, the Jazz has tighter string spacing and a twangier sound than the Precision. But with the Dingwall 5-ers, the Super-J and Super-P appear to have the same string spacing. How do they both "feel" compared to the models they're inspired by?
Thank you in advance. Please phrase all answers in a form that increases my GAS (I know you will anyway).
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I have one of both and the neck pickup is about 1/4" closer the neck on the SJ5 (with the P in the neck position), although mine is an older model with '70s position bridge pickup (which is to say, closer to the bridge than the "standard" Jazz). I think the pickups were positioned the way they were due to the pickguard and control plates at the time more than anything. They have changed since then foregoing the control plates and going rear mounted. I am not even sure you can get a SuperJ with the P-split pickups anymore. They have the P-Tones which are essentially the same thing (in theory).

If yours is a 2008, it would be the same vintage as mine. It started out life as a JJ as they hadn't developed the 5-string P pickup yet at the time, but they did have the foresight to route it for both under the pickguard. As soon as 5-string P pickups were released, I converted mine to a PJ. It has more of a mid forward character to it. It is not necessarily as "polite" and nice sounding solo, but does really well in a band mix.
 
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Well, I tried out the Strandberg 5. IMHO it doesn't really enter into the same league of quality as my Dingwall ABZ. It is a great bass in its own right, but for me, I just can't see it replacing my Dingwall. Especially considering it is $400 more than a Canadian made Dingwall ABZ. The Dingwall just oozes quality, and the FD3 pickups are so rich and broad. The Strandberg also confirmed that I'm official a passive pickups guy at this point. I played actives for the first 12 years of my musical career but now it is passives all the way ever since my ABZ. The feel of the Strandberg is amazing though. It is the lightest bass I've ever played. It has the most comfortable body and neck design of any bass I've ever played. But alas. I do still plan to do a review/demo of it on my channel after the holidays.

My hands are still telling me I need a smaller bass. I hate to drop that luscious 37" B, but the Strandbergs thinner neck had my hands feeling a lot better. So a 5 string with a high C is in order. I guess it is time to start saving for a passive Super J 5! :roflmao: Anybody know the current waitlist time if I ordered one directly?
 
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Proton Lenny said:
My hands are still telling me I need a smaller bass. I hate to drop that luscious 37" B, but the Strandbergs thinner neck had my hands feeling a lot better. So a 5 string with a high C is in order. I guess it is time to start saving for a passive Super J 5! :roflmao: Anybody know the current waitlist time if I ordered one directly?
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Waitlist is the same "direct" or through a dealer. From what I've been told, it's roughly 18 months right now, with some give/take. Though some dealers may have slots that they have in queue that aren't customer builds, so you may be able to skip ahead that way. I think Dingwall likes you to use a dealer if you have one within a reasonable distance.
 
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Proton Lenny said:
Well, I tried out the Strandberg 5. IMHO it doesn't really enter into the same league of quality as my Dingwall ABZ. It is a great bass in its own right, but for me, I just can't see it replacing my Dingwall. Especially considering it is $400 more than a Canadian made Dingwall ABZ. The Dingwall just oozes quality, and the FD3 pickups are so rich and broad. The Strandberg also confirmed that I'm official a passive pickups guy at this point. I played actives for the first 12 years of my musical career but now it is passives all the way ever since my ABZ. The feel of the Strandberg is amazing though. It is the lightest bass I've ever played. It has the most comfortable body and neck design of any bass I've ever played. But alas. I do still plan to do a review/demo of it on my channel after the holidays.

My hands are still telling me I need a smaller bass. I hate to drop that luscious 37" B, but the Strandbergs thinner neck had my hands feeling a lot better. So a 5 string with a high C is in order. I guess it is time to start saving for a passive Super J 5! :roflmao: Anybody know the current waitlist time if I ordered one directly?
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Thanks for this. This sounds like my assumptions are pretty close considering the videos and such. Ive found them lacking in the tone department. I assume due to electronics and possibly lack of mass with such a light body?

Have you tried a Z3 neck? If you like smaller necks(perhaps not lengthwise) you may find its a whole different game with a Z in hand

Wait times generally speaking right now sound like 18 months
 
#33,516
AB Nate said:
Thanks for this. This sounds like my assumptions are pretty close considering the videos and such. Ive found them lacking in the tone department. I assume due to electronics and possibly lack of mass with such a light body?

Have you tried a Z3 neck? If you like smaller necks(perhaps not lengthwise) you may find its a whole different game with a Z in hand

Wait times generally speaking right now sound like 18 months
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No it is the scale I need smaller. I actually like fatter necks in terms of depth. But I want to string a 5 string from E-C, so the super long scale is not really necessary. But I can't give up the multiscale. Hence why I'm considering the Super J. I just REALLY wish it had 24 frets.
 
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Gratuitous end-of-year update: Picked up a Combustion 5 in basic black back in March from Bass Central in FL (great experience, ask for JD.)

I've never had a bass that you rarely had to retune. I'm just amazed how solid the neck is. I was thinking I might never have to tweak the truss rod and quite frankly I was a little afraid to even though I have lots of experience with it. Leave awesome alone was my thinking.

Anyway, I was measuring it today and it looks like the cold had moved it past the .015 that Dingwall recommends, so I carefully gave the rod just over a 1/2 a turn. That put it around .012 and I thought I overdid it, but lo and behold it plays even more fantastic imo at that setting. The lesson is don't be afraid to experiment.

Anyway, love this. Sounds great with dead strings, new strings, anything in between, and I have yet to find a need to go active eq.

Now I just gotta hope my son doesn't run off to college with it. But then again, that would be a good excuse to buy another Dingwall.

Merry Christmas!
 
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#33,518
dtsamples said:
yeah ever since we went to Eb I’ve been using 37”. For my tastes 35” isn’t enough tension below standard tuning.
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AB Nate said:
I see. I never even tried down tuning a medium scale. Makes sense though.
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Interesting... I played in a blues-rock band for three years and the singer/guitarist insisted he set up his guitar (Strat) just like SRV. With heavy strings and tuned down half a step. I was playing a Modulus Q5 (35" scale) and I just dropped half a step with no issue or string change. I also have an aggressive playing style too.

Of course with that said, the much longer scale Dingwalls are king for tuning down. :thumbsup:
 
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johnsonabq said:
Interesting... I played in a blues-rock band for three years and the singer/guitarist insisted he set up his guitar (Strat) just like SRV. With heavy strings and tuned down half a step. I was playing a Modulus Q5 (35" scale) and I just dropped half a step with no issue or string change. I also have an aggressive playing style too.

Of course with that said, the much longer scale Dingwalls are king for tuning down. :thumbsup:
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I used to play tunes down to A standard on a 5 string 35” scale as well.... it worked but like I mentioned a few days back, when I played the AB drop tuned it is not the same and of course thinking of playing any other bass in a drop situation now is pretty Meh.. lol
 

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