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Yeah... I kept that part stock. I had a Spector once in alder. It had a special tone.WHAT?????
Your not Jeff?????
Yeah. I thought so and I think I can see the slight grain.... also wasn’t sure if it was ordered with alternate spec.
Yeah... I kept that part stock. I had a Spector once in alder. It had a special tone.
This started as an ABZ so that would've given me ash I believe. That looks nice sometimes. But I wanted a gloss finish so that bumped it up to an AB1 w/alder stock. No worries though. The Xtop and finish are what everyone is looking at.![]()
What's the other side like?I like alder a lot. My SJ was alder and loved it’s magic.
Mine pictured above is actually Ash/bass side and Alder/treble side.
I didn’t originally spec it that way but after receiving word from Sheldon that this combo would be ideal for what I designed this bass for I decided let’s go with the advice of master splinter.... I mean Sheldon.
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Zen blades cannot be made into Dingwall covers but Big blades can - I'm having a set made for my fretless SJ5
Aviator Guitars recently made a fanned bass with Nordstrand FD3. I pointed out that they're meant for parallel basses but they replied they ran some tests and it worked great in this build.
Ive tried a good chunk of the flavours that have been offered over the years and I just look at them all as different tools.
sometimes just straight passive is an awesome flavour and if so I like using the tone control whereas the DGTC does not have that option, I wish it did.
the glockenklang 2 band is extremely useful but once I got a 3 band there wasn’t any going back unless it was an existing build. I found the mid control an awesome addition in metal.... and everything else.
the 2 band EMG(?) in my current combustion is quite a neutral preamp offering ever so slight modification to the inherent sound. It’s almost as if it has a slight passive tone control.
I’m truly in love with both the DGTC and the 3 band glock. I see why Sheldon chose these for his fine instruments.
the glockenklang is like adding musical magic to the inherent tone of an instrument where as the DG is like a fully mechanical refinement device for adjusting frequency parameters to your required needs. Both are amazing tools.
did I say I live both of them. Currently, I have 2 with 3 band flocks and 2 with DGTC. I’ve played around with both pre’s more then one person should....
Possible more then my own devices. Sorry. TMI.
The current 3 band in combustion’s is a very intuitive pre. It does exactly what you ask it to with the tweak of a knob but it’s all very very clinical IMO. Not in a bad way just in a basic “modifies the passive tone” with no colour kind of way. It’s a great preamp but I didn’t love it, stand alone, for aggressive music. Anything shy of RAWR I feel it needs nothing but as soon as your looking for head banging a DG pedal or other stands down stream.
I found the blue cube and Aggie (minimal experience) to be simple. Much like the 2 band that I have on my combustion. Not incredible dynamic additions, just moderate refinement tools.
Generally speaking though all of these pre amps require a good fundamental from the instrument and that is something I haven’t experienced lacking in any. I’d love to try the wood combo of the Droc in a NG style bass as I don’t marry the body shape well of the roc. Inherently the 2 Drocs I’ve played sound so good.
Happy Saturday Dfolks!
That's sweet Nate. I know Sheldon will use different densities of a wood for treble and bass sides of the body on Z's, but not different woods. I had planned on a standard purple/turquoise reverse burst and that would give me a turquoise body so I was going to get a contrasting layer of wenge under the Xtop. Then I saw a purple and white reverse bust Z where the white stopped at the edge of the top and the body was purple. I went that route and dropped the contrasting layer.I like alder a lot. My SJ was alder and loved it’s magic.
Mine pictured above is actually Ash/bass side and Alder/treble side.
I didn’t originally spec it that way but after receiving word from Sheldon that this combo would be ideal for what I designed this bass for I decided let’s go with the advice of master splinter.... I mean Sheldon.
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I feel the opposite when comparing the DG and EMG preamps. The DG is more drastic/powerful/musical with small adjustments and the EMG to needs to be cranked to have any noticeable tone shaping.
I hadn't thought of Aguilar even though I have an Aguilar rig! I've never tried any of their preamps or pickups.
The Blueqube is very intriguing to me, I'd guess those aren't easy to come by nowadays.
I feel the opposite when comparing the DG and EMG preamps. The DG is more drastic/powerful/musical with small adjustments and the EMG to needs to be cranked to have any noticeable tone shaping.
I hadn't thought of Aguilar even though I have an Aguilar rig! I've never tried any of their preamps or pickups.
The Blueqube is very intriguing to me, I'd guess those aren't easy to come by nowadays.
I like the sharp contrast line of that.That's sweet Nate. I know Sheldon will use different densities of a wood for treble and bass sides of the body on Z's, but not different woods. I had planned on a standard purple/turquoise reverse burst and that would give me a turquoise body so I was going to get a contrasting layer of wenge under the Xtop. Then I saw a purple and white reverse bust Z where the white stopped at the edge of the top and the body was purple. I went that route and dropped the contrasting layer.
If I ever have the opportunity to order another build, it'll be an ABII in all natural wood. I'll get the contrasting layer for that.
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My apologies. I guess I worded it poorly. What you said pretty much is what I was also saying.
the EMG is intuitive in regards to the fact that you roll the B/M/T a little and that’s exactly what happens. Roll it a bit more and more of the same happens. It’s very clean and obvious. Subtle but obvious.
The DG is an amazing tool and your right as a little goes a long way. It’s a very dynamic and responsive preamp. When comparing it to the glockenklang my term is mechanical though. The glockenklang being very musical and the DG being a dynamic process to refine the sound/frequency pallet. It’s less intuitive in regards to the fact that a small refinement along the 3 bands can offer a different response then one might expect with a more traditional preamp. It’s more advanced.
good morning. Sorry for the wordiness.
Yes. It responds more like the EMG but with greater response, and has a more natural control then the DG. AND ITS MAGIC!Good morning and no worries! Maybe I had misunderstood your point. I hadn't been awake for too long when I posted that!
Your description of the Glockenklang makes me wonder, does each band of EQ interact with each other vs feeling separated like the DG?
I have one around here somewhere, I offered it up for free in this group (then got a DM saying to remove the post due to not being a supporting member).You may find a blue cube that’s been pulled out and replaced. I feel that’s come up in convo here.
That said there was just a red AB on the FB dingwall marketplace I think.
I have one around here somewhere, I offered it up for free in this group (then got a DM saying to remove the post due to not being a supporting member).
Zen blades cannot be made into Dingwall covers but Big blades can - I'm having a set made for my fretless SJ5
Aviator Guitars recently made a fanned bass with Nordstrand FD3. I pointed out that they're meant for parallel basses but they replied they ran some tests and it worked great in this build.
That's a great looking bass!