Ok, that's what I was afraid of
Is it possible to simply keep the knobs ?
I thought they all had different characteristics, which made this not feasible.
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Ok, that's what I was afraid of
Is it possible to simply keep the knobs ?
I thought they all had different characteristics, which made this not feasible.
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Ok, that's what I was afraid of
Is it possible to simply keep the knobs ?
I thought they all had different characteristics, which made this not feasible.
Those must have the same sized shafts? But yeah, I have the same knobs on my Combustion from when it had the original EMG to when I pulled that out and put in the DGTC. And I changed out the original knobs on my NG3 for a set of the Canadian knobs early on. I'm generally less about emailing/calling to check if stuff will work and more about just trying it. I never even considered they wouldn't work.
I took some measurements and pictures of the controls on my Zs which have both pre-amps. The Glockenklang uses smaller shafts (0.250in) and the DGTC is not only larger (0.375in) but also include shields around the posts. I didn't try very hard but I wasn't able to get the Glockenklang knobs to work on the DGTC controls but it was fine the other way around. I seem to recall needing to know the shaft diameters when ordering a set of knobs for my NG-2.
I also included photos of the control cavities. You shouldn't have an issue with either pre-amp fitting in the space and the battery compartment is already large enough for 2 9V batteries on the Glockenklang. It has some extra foam to take the space of the missing battery since it is only a 9V pre-amp instead of 18V like the DGTC.
Hope this helps.
I also included photos of the control cavities. You shouldn't have an issue with either pre-amp fitting in the space and the battery compartment is already large enough for 2 9V batteries on the Glockenklang. It has some extra foam to take the space of the missing battery since it is only a 9V pre-amp instead of 18V like the DGTC.
Hope this helps.
Has someone tried both the Super J and the Super P? Apart from the pickups, is the only difference the body?
I'm thinking I'd like a Super PJ, but I prefer the J-style body...
I'm thinking I'd like a Super PJ, but I prefer the J-style body...
They’ve done Super JP models (PJ pickups on a J body). Have it your way!
Lowendtech
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My first DW was an early 2006 SJP 4. That was one heck of a gateway drug. Shoulda kept it. It was nice.They’ve done Super JP models (PJ pickups on a J body). Have it your way!
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I've had 4 string versions of each. The nut width is a little different on the 4 strings, but the same on 5 strings I believe. However they will do the jazz nut on a super p if you want and vise versa.
I’ve had both, and like the J body with the P J pickups best. I also prefer the look of the J body. My early Super PJ had a very slim neck.
That said, the Super P 4 is lighter and the body is thinner than the Super J. My Super P is under 8 lb. I don’t miss the bridge pup that much and there’s tones of tonal range. It does what a P should do in spades.
They all have the 19mm string spacing.
That said, the Super P 4 is lighter and the body is thinner than the Super J. My Super P is under 8 lb. I don’t miss the bridge pup that much and there’s tones of tonal range. It does what a P should do in spades.
They all have the 19mm string spacing.
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Stunning! Love the look of the natural wood + pickguard
Thanks for the answers guys! What about the wenge necks? Anyone had a chance to compare to maple and see if there's a difference in sound?
oh man!!! They are yours!
The Nebula and blood moon?
the Nebula was part inspiration for my Galactus
love those basses
your P pick up placement may be different compared to the P body. That I cannot confirm. One other thought is you can have a preamp in the J but not the P.
I have both and personally I like the stylings of the J body. The Lower weight of the P is nice. Honestly with eyes closed the ergonomics of both are fantastic and I may even prefer the fee of the P better. As mentioned, you can put a P on a J body as another option.
The bridge and tuners are the same on either.
there is definitely a difference IMO. Wenge is very clear, punchy, tight and focused and it can add a bit of a scoop. that said it sounds like it’s currently in quite short supply.
Dingwall Maple necks are killer also. I find the flavour to open up somewhat. More of an even influence across the range. I think my maple necked Z can voice a more woody, mid open tone the my wenge necked Z. Both with Maple fretboards.
I do believe I am hearing the difference in the neck woods in my assessments
When I was spec'ing out my 2009 Super J/P with the Dingwall sales rep at the time (Barry Lamb), I asked about pickup placing on it compared to the Super P. He said that the P pickup on the Super J was 1/4" closer to the neck compared to the Super P. The sonic difference? More mids on the SP. I can't confirm that pickup placements are still different, but a Dingwall rep could, for sure. I can confirm that soloing the P pickup on my SJ/P sounds killer and my SP is truly super.
I’ve inquired about a Super P build with the Super J nut. Only problem... sounds like it will say Super J on the headstock carve. I’m guessing they don’t want to have to have a special program on the CNC for the rare occasion that they do Super Ps with J necks.
That’s weird, my Super P4 had the smaller jazz nut and it said Super P on the headstock...
Awesome! Part of the reason why I spec'd them out the way I did was to inspire others so I'm happy that worked out. I've seen so many jaw-dropping basses coming out of Dingwall in the past few years. I like all of the creativity and the Galactus is definitely one of my favorites.
I play a lot of heavier music so I can't really comment on the subtle differences in tone but for me the big difference is in the feel while playing. Maple feels harder, drier, and snappier in my hands and I've always felt like I can play more precisely with it. Wenge is hard, but not like maple and it feels almost oily or denser so you don't get the same sort of snap.
It is very subtle and not really something you pay much attention to unless you either do a lot of playing on different necks or do focused precision fretting work. The biggest difference to me is in the finish. Maple has a much smoother grain with no pits or divots while wenge is very textured which I prefer. I find it a lot easier to get good thumb positions on a wenge neck due to this so its a much better overall fit for everything I play.
When I was spec'ing out my 2009 Super J/P with the Dingwall sales rep at the time (Barry Lamb), I asked about pickup placing on it compared to the Super P. He said that the P pickup on the Super J was 1/4" closer to the neck compared to the Super P. The sonic difference? More mids on the SP. I can't confirm that pickup placements are still different, but a Dingwall rep could, for sure. I can confirm that soloing the P pickup on my SJ/P sounds killer and my SP is truly super.
I was under the impression that newer J's with a P/J configuration just had a P-Tone neck pickup in the standard one-piece shell as opposed to the traditional split pickups. I haven't seen a new J with the split P in long a while.
