Dingwall Owners Club

[lowphatbass]

Will TI flats fit on longer scale Dingwalls? I know that the D-Bird is only 36.5" on the four string, but is there enough rope to do 37"?

I put a set on my Voodoo some years back, they were the longest scale available at the time. My memory is that I did have to trim a mm or two of silk on the B string and lower the saddle on the B and E due to the lack of taper and would’ve considered widening the nut a hair on the B slot. Also significantly higher tension than the DW SS strings at that time. Overall a very positive experience, worked well for the session/project.

 

[LawDog]

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I apologize if you've already answered this previously, but wondering if you have various sets available for low tunings?

 

[BurningSkies]

I put a set on my Voodoo some years back, they were the longest scale available at the time. My memory is that I did have to trim a mm or two of silk on the B string and lower the saddle on the B and E due to the lack of taper and would’ve considered widening the nut a hair on the B slot. Also significantly higher tension than the DW SS strings at that time. Overall a very positive experience, worked well for the session/project.

I'm using the Payons on mine now, which like all flats are fairly higher tension in comparison to Dingwall Strings, but they do have the taper. Though re-jiggering the action on the fretless isn't terribly hard to deal with.

My bigger problem is that flats are so much easier for fretless technique, but I much prefer the sound and feel of rounds. Too bad there's nothing that can do both.

 

[Nuage420]

Too bad there's nothing that can do both.

DOUBLE NECK DINGWALL!

 

[gearhound22]

I also really like the blue/purple shift, but I got a really good deal on the Aquamarine. My bank account hopes the Dingwall's don't become addictive....

Good luck with that coming from a GUITAR player now 6 Dingwalls deep! (and two previous ones)

 

[BurningSkies]

DOUBLE NECK DINGWALL!

Oh God, no.

 

[spiritbass]

Played my first service with the standard-gauge Payson medium scale nickels on my SJ/P-4. They aren't as 'zingy' as the Dingwalls out of the pack. Good sound, good feel - me likey. The other difference between the sets is that the E is not tapered on the Paysons.

 

[Waltsdog]

DOUBLE NECK DINGWALL!

Don't go giving them ideas, we already have the headless coming and that's already getting a bit 'tight PVC trousers and poodle perms' for me

Hopefully we'll never see anything like this monstrosity haha

 

[Nuage420]

Don't go giving them ideas, we already have the headless coming and that's already getting a bit 'tight PVC trousers and poodle perms' for me

Hopefully we'll never see anything like this monstrosity haha
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BATIO IS A GOD!

 

[EMoneySC2]

Will TI flats fit on longer scale Dingwalls? I know that the D-Bird is only 36.5" on the four string, but is there enough rope to do 37"?

There should be enough to do 37". The exposed string goes right up to the tuning peg on the E

 

[BurningSkies]

There should be enough to do 37". The exposed string goes right up to the tuning peg on the E

How do they feel? What's the vibe and tension like?

 

[Blues Cat]

I apologize if you've already answered this previously, but wondering if you have various sets available for low tunings?

Yes sir. They should be visible at the top of the landing page. And, at the very bottom for 5string drop tuning.

 

[EMoneySC2]

How do they feel? What's the vibe and tension like?

Of the few brands of flats I’ve tried TIs are my favorite. Low tension. They’re pretty bright when new, but they sound great when they’ve worn in. I’m really not experienced with flats, but broken in TIs sound like what I want flats to sound like.

 

[BurningSkies]

Of the few brands of flats I’ve tried TIs are my favorite. Low tension. They’re pretty bright when new, but they sound great when they’ve worn in. I’m really not experienced with flats, but broken in TIs sound like what I want flats to sound like.

On my list, assuming you're talking about the 'super long scale' ones...at $120 a set they're not something to jump into lightly.

 

[1983L2000]

Of the few brands of flats I’ve tried TIs are my favorite. Low tension. They’re pretty bright when new, but they sound great when they’ve worn in. I’m really not experienced with flats, but broken in TIs sound like what I want flats to sound like.

What about taper? Do they require a nut adjustment (on a fiver)? Thanks!

 

[EMoneySC2]

What about taper? Do they require a nut adjustment (on a fiver)? Thanks!

I don’t think the TIs have a taper on any of the strings. I’d ask Jason at Fret Nation if you really want to know.

 

[singlemalt]

I think the TI flats are the most expressive, musical strings I’ve ever used. There is a huge range of sounds available, and it’s worth exploring. The feel is soft and supple, light years from the bridge cable tension of chromes.
Dig in hard and they get a kind of cough or sneeze, a forceful exhalation kind of thing going that is cool. They slap just fine, with their own kind of slap sound.

Anywhere from very lightest up to digging in they have a full, round, warm tone.

I had sticker shock the first time I bought a set. Since then, I just hand over the cash. They last forever, longer than a few boxes of round wound sets. I think they are most economical.

Break in time is a couple weeks of playtime. It takes a bit to get used to the feel, and sounds.

My only downside was the TI flats play so easily I could get lazy. Going back to rounds was messy.

Contact Jason at Fret Nation directly for special orders, he is beyond helpful.

And if they don’t work out, it’s easy to sell them used. I prefer to buy mine used and just skip to the good parts.

 

[BurningSkies]

I think the TI flats are the most expressive, musical strings I’ve ever used. There is a huge range of sounds available, and it’s worth exploring. The feel is soft and supple, light years from the bridge cable tension of chromes.
Dig in hard and they get a kind of cough or sneeze, a forceful exhalation kind of thing going that is cool. They slap just fine, with their own kind of slap sound.

Anywhere from very lightest up to digging in they have a full, round, warm tone.

I had sticker shock the first time I bought a set. Since then, I just hand over the cash. They last forever, longer than a few boxes of round wound sets. I think they are most economical.

Break in time is a couple weeks of playtime. It takes a bit to get used to the feel, and sounds.

My only downside was the TI flats play so easily I could get lazy. Going back to rounds was messy.

Contact Jason at Fret Nation directly for special orders, he is beyond helpful.

And if they don’t work out, it’s easy to sell them used. I prefer to buy mine used and just skip to the good parts.

I just put a new set of rounds on the fretless just to review after having the flats on for a few months. Moving around on flats is just way easier being able to really get a wide range of smoother vibrato is also obviously easier. But I love the lower tension of the rounds, I love the greater acoustic volume of them, and prefer the tone profile.

Flats to me have a 'plunky' tone to them I've just not ever loved, but I'm not sure that that isn't tied to the greater tension, rather than the inherent tone profile. I'm sort of hoping that at the very least, the TI's might meet me in the middle on the situation.

 

[J Posega]

TI flats are the best, ever. That said, I don’t know if I’d still love them so much on an extra long bass. Part of their charm is the low tension and smooth, supple feel. I wonder if some of that is lost when putting them on a long scale Dingwall?

I believe some of their magic comes from the fact that there is a winding of silk between the core and the outer layer. I may be mistaken, but I think that’s what I read about their construction.

I liked TI flats on my SP5 and now that I have this Sklar I might go back to those.

 

[AB Nate]

I’ve got some fender tape wounds on my Carvin AC-40 fretless and I really really like them on that instrument.
A long scale option for that would be a lot of fun for the fretless.