With Spector and maybe Warwick (at some point) doing multiscale, maybe we’ll see the ABHS option come back
I’m in no place to buy one right now, but they’re my favorite looking ABs.
This housing market stuff sucks!
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I’m in no place to buy one right now, but they’re my favorite looking ABs.
This housing market stuff sucks!
thanks for the heads up Payson.
by the end of the night last night I was really REALLY digging the daggers.
They sound and play really nicely on a fretless.
With Spector and maybe Warwick (at some point) doing multiscale, maybe we’ll see the ABHS option come back
I’m in no place to buy one right now, but they’re my favorite looking ABs.
This housing market stuff sucks!
good luck with it man. It can be stressful for sure. In these volition times too it’s a trick to know where is the right spot to invest your money.
Padalka is my main non Dingwall gas. His attention to detail is top tier but I have no idea what they play and sound like
Nice! After (pre-dingwall) years of playing Elixirs I'm going to have to try these.
Do you have pictures of how they look like? Curious about the black coating.
BurningSkies
CRAZY BALDHEAD
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Still interested in giving these a try. I actually poked around on the Pyramid site since they do custom stuff to order (for a huge premium on their already huge premium) but it's not really set up for some of the stuff that we'd want like some tapered strings, etc. And I'm not so serious that I'd email them and really see what they can do.
With Spector and maybe Warwick (at some point) doing multiscale, maybe we’ll see the ABHS option come back
I’m in no place to buy one right now, but they’re my favorite looking ABs.
Er, I got the feeling that they discontinued that as a specific model due to lack of consumer interest to drive the sales. I don't know if it was due to people being more weight conscious or what. I do know that the earlier iteration of the AB2, before they were chambered and F-holed may be of interest to you. They were originally mahogany bodied/bubinga topped then later walnut bodied & bubinga topped.
Good to hear. Another thing to consider.
Does anyone know what internal wiring the stock FDV pickups having for afterburners? The one I bought has the toggle switches, but I'm wondering on non-toggle models if they get the internal coils wired in parallel or series.
i think that can vary depending on the bass and it’s place in lineage.
It’s easy to check though. Pop off the cavity plate and check the black and green wires. If they are connected to each other they are wired in series.
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Hello Everyone. I have ordered my first Dingwall a while ago, D-Roc Standard 5 string so probably I'd join the Club in late spring 
I am a bit hesitant about the pickups though because I've learnt that FD-3N's which are stock in D-Rock standard have Neodymium magnets, and I am more of a Alnico-V guy. Could anyone educate me about the tone difference between FD-3N and FDV (Alnico) pickups, I guess many of you used or tried both? So now I have three options - leaving it all stock with FD-3N, swapping them with FDV (pricey!) or putting a P-Tone in a middle position and leaving two FD-3N in neck and bridge. Can anyone chime in with own experience of all three pickups? Thanks!
I am a bit hesitant about the pickups though because I've learnt that FD-3N's which are stock in D-Rock standard have Neodymium magnets, and I am more of a Alnico-V guy. Could anyone educate me about the tone difference between FD-3N and FDV (Alnico) pickups, I guess many of you used or tried both? So now I have three options - leaving it all stock with FD-3N, swapping them with FDV (pricey!) or putting a P-Tone in a middle position and leaving two FD-3N in neck and bridge. Can anyone chime in with own experience of all three pickups? Thanks!
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I’ll be honest Anton, Lee and I both liked the tone of the FD3’s in the Droc Std better than our original custom Dbirds we had. Our customs were both very dark. These sound great w the mahogany body imo. John D. has that bass now.
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Overall, FDV’s are warmer to my ear. FD3’s are a little sharper and brighter to my ear. Probably why I liked the FDV’s in my ash ABZ and the FD3’s on a Dbird/Droc.
Hello Everyone. I have ordered my first Dingwall a while ago, D-Roc Standard 5 string so probably I'd join the Club in late spring
Wait 'til you get it and spend some time playing it before you consider making any changes, forget what the magnets are and give it some time. The D-roc can do so many tones with the stock pickups I think you'll be very happy with it stock.
Not saying you wont feel like changing it down the road but considering new pickups out the gate without even laying hands on it just cos the magnet type is not your preference in other basses is probably not the best plan.
P-tone in the middle is kinda pointless IMO, my stock D-bird on the middle pickup sounded better and more P like than my combustion with a P-tone in the middle.
Hello Everyone. I have ordered my first Dingwall a while ago, D-Roc Standard 5 string so probably I'd join the Club in late spring
FDV's with series internal wiring are very different than parallel internal wiring. FD3ns are also reverse split coil internal, which will make them sound different than FDVs or a p-tone without even considering the magnet type.
My ABZ new strings are still in the mail from Payson, so I haven't been able to fully compare my d-roc to ABZ yet. My d-roc has the FD3Ns and ABZ has the FDVs with coil tap switches.
On my d-roc, I really like the bridge and middle in parallel, or just the middle solo'd. Which makes it difficult to compare to the ABZ, as the ABZ does not have those pickup options. My ABZ has the coil switches, and the two modes that I've found that I like on it so far is the neck pickup solo'd with series internal, or the bridge and middle pickups in series with the internal coils on both in parallel. But they definitely sound way different than the d-roc so its hard to compare, especially with the ABZ having old strings and not being able to try both basses out in a full band setting.
Hello Everyone. I have ordered my first Dingwall a while ago, D-Roc Standard 5 string so probably I'd join the Club in late spring
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I’d get familiar with the stock set up for a bit like @Waltsdog mentioned.
Once you’ve got more familiarity with those stock pups I think you’ll know which direction you’ll want to go, if any, sans our opinions.
I’ve explored quite a variety of the Dingwall electronics and one humbling thought is that when I think I could clearly define one vs the other, all the other factors of the instrument come into play.
Ie. a really scooped wenge/wenge/ash combo is gonna express different then an Alder/maple/maple.
The D roc itself has a voice that you might find pairs fantastically with those FD3s where as the other options may over express a tone character you may not have seen coming.
Speaking of which, did we ever get the reveal for your tracks a few pages back?
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
Rob, think that's because of the different magnets? neodym/alnico
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Didn’t seem to be too much interest I guessing so I just left it and honestly forgot
Would I be certified nuts to buy another 4 string Combustion to have permanently setup for BEAD tuning? I do not want to, and quite honestly, refuse, to learn how to play a 5 string. There are so many things I need to improve on with my 4 string Dingwall that I don't want to take 10 steps backwards right now by having a 5 string in my hands. I have some songs that are originally written for a 5 string (they are metal songs, quite heavy but those guys don't even use the G string, so it's like they are playing a BEAD 4 string anyway). I have been taking their Guitar Pro files and converting them to Eb Drop Db tuning, and tune my current Dingwall to that. I also have a lot of guys on Fiverr that I pay to transcribe songs (mp3's) to Guitar Pro file, or MIDI, and the ones for 5 string I then put in the time to convert to Eb Drop Db. There is talk all over here about lower tunings on a standard bass and how the neck gets affected and all, so I don't do it much. I have seen others here in the Dingwall forum, not mentioning any names, AB Nate and BurningSkies, that may, to the outsider, *appear* to go a little too far with this whole Dingwall thing, but I don't see it that way and you couldn't pay me a million dollars to see it that way, because I feel I am right there with them, I just haven't started out with the obsession, yet..but I feel I am infected. It would only be something like this from Beavers place in Florida. Anyone here have a dedicated BEAD 4 string Combustion Dingwall ?
It isn't nuts from my point of view. I play fours and fives, but I prefer fours. Usually I add a Hipshot and call it good enough in terms of getting a couple extra low notes out of my fours. I haven't done that with my two Dingwall four string basses, so I'm thinking about going a different route. The pitch shift on my HX Stomp is pretty good, so I've got a patch that lets me drop either a step or a step and a half with a stomp switch. There is a little bit of a compromise in terms of tone suck, but I'm curious to see how it holds up in a mix. If I ever get another live show booked, that is.
