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Dingwall Owners Club

#40,143
AB Nate said:
Well since your serious about this, and I think it’s RAD that your doing it, here is some recent history and about all I can muster for this eve.


Dingwall

Est. 1988
Multi scale bass construction began 1994

2020
-Ghost blocks/speedos added to options.

2019
-July 2019 D roc Custom 4 and 5
-Aug 2019 D roc standard

Jan 2019
-5 string custom D bird
-Quilted maple top and Pau fuerro on combustion’s
-10th anniversary amethyst burst combustion
-Carbon fibre reinforcement on combustion necks.
-2 way truss rod on combustion necks
-Lee sklar 2 with 3x pick ups.
-Limited edition RVDL 5 string hellboy


2018
-The D bird standard 4 string
-Combustion/NG.6
-Lefty combustion
-NG(3)
-DG 10th anniversary(celebrates the 10th anniversary of Darkglass Electronics)
-New shop for combustion production

2017
-New hipshot/dingwall saddles
-Rounded pups in combustion’s/ABZ
-Due to CITES ABHSs stop using bubinga and switched to hard rock maple.

2016
-Prototype FDVs
-4 string combustion’s
-D bird custom
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That‘s so totally awesome! Thanks. I added this a bit “quick and dirty” to the wiki so I don’t lose the information.
Anybody else who has similar data - post here, edit the wiki, let’s collect all this knowledge!
 
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#40,144
dirkhh said:
That‘s so totally awesome! Thanks. I added this a bit “quick and dirty” to the wiki so I don’t lose the information.
Anybody else who has similar data - post here, edit the wiki, let’s collect all this knowledge!
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theres a lot of history in this thread. Not all accurate but it usually gets corrected pretty quick. I’m guilty of a few missteps. There’s a forum on the dingwall website too but I think a lot of data was lost.... or at least I can’t seem to access it
 
#40,145
dirkhh said:
That‘s so totally awesome! Thanks. I added this a bit “quick and dirty” to the wiki so I don’t lose the information.
Anybody else who has similar data - post here, edit the wiki, let’s collect all this knowledge!
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BTW
A single acting truss rod only adjusts 1 way... and back. When it gets back to set flat you can actually unscrew the nut right off. A 2 way will go both ways from flat. Bow and backbow.
 
#40,146
lowphatbass said:
There were the “dual-density” bodies as well for a little while.
I grew-up in an industry that’s not entirely dissimilar in terms of product evolution and market competition. Relentless R&D and not hanging your hat on “good enough” is a good plan for success.
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That's still part of the concept. Z's get dual-density ash (there's been a at least one dual-density/dual-body-wood Z as well), and a major feature on Prima Artist customs.
 
#40,147
AB Nate said:
Well since your serious about this, and I think it’s RAD that your doing it, here is some recent history and about all I can muster for this eve.


Dingwall

Est. 1988
Multi scale bass construction began 1994

2020
-Ghost blocks/speedos added to options.

2019
-July 2019 D roc Custom 4 and 5
-Aug 2019 D roc standard

Jan 2019
-5 string custom D bird
-Quilted maple top and Pau fuerro on combustion’s
-10th anniversary amethyst burst combustion
-Carbon fibre reinforcement on combustion necks.
-2 way truss rod on combustion necks
-Lee sklar 2 with 3x pick ups.
-Limited edition RVDL 5 string hellboy


2018
-The D bird standard 4 string
-Combustion/NG.6
-Lefty combustion
-NG(3)
-DG 10th anniversary(celebrates the 10th anniversary of Darkglass Electronics)
-New shop for combustion production

2017
-New hipshot/dingwall saddles
-Rounded pups in combustion’s/ABZ
-Due to CITES ABHSs stop using bubinga and switched to hard rock maple.

2016
-Prototype FDVs
-4 string combustion’s
-D bird custom
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*fanned fret bass production starts in 1993.
 
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#40,149
BurningSkies said:
There's been some oblique mapping out over the years... but it's somewhat of a fool's errand for a few reasons.

One being a specific point on the timeline...October 18, 1996. That was the fire that burned down the original Dingwall facility and is the 'void' in the actual timeline. It destroyed the records and hardware previous to that point. There is also some amount of flex since serial numbers didn't run chronologically for at least a handful of basses. So it's down to features to figure out where a bass fits in the timeline during that era.

The other thing is that there's been this feature and model evolution that makes it hard to really map models and specific features. Original ABs? 1pc neck, 3pc neck, 5pc neck? Soft maple body or Alder? AB2s... solid body mahogany, or walnut with pomele bubinga...or chambered bodies, etc. Then the ABHS comes out and it's basically an AB2 from the 'old days' with more options. ;)

We could get fussy, like the details on the Dingwall made knobs. There are 3 versions as far as I know. The early narrower diameter, later wide diameter and then the rubber 'D' logo ones. ;)
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Edit: Fire was October 8th, my bad. I looked up the date again last night and knew it didn't sound right. . If you want more info search "Uncle Ed's Furniture" and fire. The Dingwall shop was on the 3rd floor of that building.


He launched his company in 1988, set up shop in the HEL store basement and moved to the third floor of Uncle Ed’s Furniture Store on First Avenue. Then, on Oct. 8, 1996, the building burned to the ground.

“I got the call about 7 a.m., raced downtown and at first sight, there were just some puffs of smoke coming from my shop at the opposite end of the building. I was tempted to run up and recover the computer records. Firemen told me it would be a bad move. We lost everything.”

Within two months, Dingwall moved into a space on Broadway Avenue but it was a long period of recovery, assembling new lists, determining who owned the guitars lost in the fire, and, with the extensive book work, he could only take orders for guitars.

Saskatoon Star Phoenix, 24 Oct. 2006

Two decades later: A look back at Uncle Ed's fire
 
#40,150
AB Nate said:
theres a lot of history in this thread. Not all accurate but it usually gets corrected pretty quick. I’m guilty of a few missteps. There’s a forum on the dingwall website too but I think a lot of data was lost.... or at least I can’t seem to access it
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The original forum on the Dingwall site did have a lot of info, but it didn't carry over when it went to the new site/format. Yeah it had a good mix of people, many who were not here at TB and very long time Dingwall guys. Definitely a bit more of a place for Sheldon to interact, go into more detail, hear from people what they liked and didn't like. It was a good bass focus group for testing market waters, etc. I was a mod on the forum for a few years, mostly to keep order and stop spam, etc.
 
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#40,152
spiritbass said:
Never even heard of these until now. My SJ-5 has the original Super Fatties. It's my 'jazz bass' tone.
My SJ/-P four came with an original SF, but it's now wearing a Nordstrand Big Split...
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IIRC when they were being developed it was with the Jazz tone in mind, sort of a 'super-jazz' oriented pickup. That's sort of why I didn't opt for them when I had the Rastaburst made...While I played Jazz basses for a good decade or more, I grew away from that tone once I had gotten my old Precision, then the move to the tone of my original AB1.
 
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#40,153
SemiDriven said:
Curious: How light could/would a Super PZ weigh?

And, in general, what are the weight "savings" by going dual-density as opposed to single-density? Up to a pound? Asking for an "older friend". :)
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I’m not really sure. I actually went with dual density to add weight.

My friend JB has a Super PZ5 and I tested it during a show once. It was pretty light, but it neck-dived a bit. Probably because of the 5 string neck. It was nothing major, but I did notice it during the show.

I mentioned this to Sheldon and that’s when he mentioned that they used very light swamp ash for the PZs and that going for the dual density body could be a good move in case i was worried about neck dive, because of the extra weight of northern ash
 
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BurningSkies said:
The original forum on the Dingwall site did have a lot of info, but it didn't carry over when it went to the new site/format. Yeah it had a good mix of people, many who were not here at TB and very long time Dingwall guys. Definitely a bit more of a place for Sheldon to interact, go into more detail, hear from people what they liked and didn't like. It was a good bass focus group for testing market waters, etc. I was a mod on the forum for a few years, mostly to keep order and stop spam, etc.
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Awesome - I'll look at that. The WaybackMachine has a ton of the old site archived. That's how I populated most of what's in the Dingwall Wiki so far... because, obviously, I don't know the first thing about all this, so to me this is a learning opportunity :-)
 
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tombowlus said:
I do not...
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This one has a black plate:

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This one appears to have a silver plate:
dingwall_super_p_standard_4.jpg


Then, this one appears to be a decal:
SJ4Head.jpg


Also, note the counter-sunk tuning posts, similar to the AB's. The newer Super-P's don't have this.
 
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