Dingwall Owners Club

[VolverseLoco]

Exactly. That and there is some fun bass to play on her stuff! Says the metalhead

Honestly, she’s got some well produced music. Begrudgingly admitted by the metalhead

Yes, she does, and I like it all..

 

[IronSean]

It looks like I'm never using the Bridge pickup alone (pos 1), was hoping to be able to wire neck solo option instead.. is it possible at all? (I don't want to customize the rotary selector for sure

The 4-was selector basically has a couple spots where you connect the pickup wires, and it's wired internally to connect them as appropriate.

So the best you could do without wiring up a custom rotary would be to swap some of the pickups in the standard config. If you swapped bridge and neck for instance I think you would get: 1) neck solo, 2 neck and middle in parallel, 3 middle solo, 4 neck and middle in parallel, then in series with bridge.

That's the only swap I see where you avoid the bridge solo, but you do end up inverting the standard droc all three config so you may or may not like the results.

With a combustion rotary and swapping the bridge and middle you'd get 1 middle, 2 middle and bridge series, 3 middle and neck parallel, 4 neck. You lose the bridge and neck parallel jazz sound a bit but all would be pretty usable.

 

[BurningSkies]

The 2 above were approx $1600-2000. CAD

That's reasonable to me. They're both V1 Combustions with 2-band preamp and vol/blend. Its probably still more than they originally retailed for at the time.

 

[AB Nate]

That's reasonable to me. They're both V1 Combustions with 2-band preamp and vol/blend. Its probably still more than they originally retailed for at the time.

I think OG retail was around $1200-1300 CAD if memory serves

 

[BurningSkies]

I think OG retail was around $1200-1300 CAD if memory serves

I feel like the original run were arounnd 1200$ US or so. Sheldon was aiming for under $1K but I just don't think it was doable and still be a bass that any of use really would want to play or own.

 

[dirkhh]

I feel like the original run were around 1200$ US or so. Sheldon was aiming for under $1K but I just don't think it was doable and still be a bass that any of use really would want to play or own.

For someone who just recently joined the world of Dingwall basses, seeing the earlier prices is always surprising to me.
All that said - I've been tracking Dingwalls for sale here, on Reverb, and in a few other places (like the FB Dingwall forum). And finding Canadian ones below $2k and Chinese ones below $1500 seems exceptionally rare - and I actually wasn't able to find a recent sale of any of them below $1500...
There was the red 4 string Combustion that took quite a while to sell in the Classifieds here, but that one, too, was $1600 (and is no longer available).
Which means the comment yesterday (?) about finding one below $1000 still seems rather... unlikely for a playable bass.

 

[IronSean]

I feel like the original run were arounnd 1200$ US or so. Sheldon was aiming for under $1K but I just don't think it was doable and still be a bass that any of use really would want to play or own.

Depending where the Canadian/USD Dollar exchange was at the time, and accounting for import duties to the US you might both be right.

 

[Bozendoka]

I feel like the original run were arounnd 1200$ US or so. Sheldon was aiming for under $1K but I just don't think it was doable and still be a bass that any of use really would want to play or own.

Can confirm, my v1 Combustion was just under $1200 new.

 

[BurningSkies]

For someone who just recently joined the world of Dingwall basses, seeing the earlier prices is always surprising to me.
All that said - I've been tracking Dingwalls for sale here, on Reverb, and in a few other places (like the FB Dingwall forum). And finding Canadian ones below $2k and Chinese ones below $1500 seems exceptionally rare - and I actually wasn't able to find a recent sale of any of them below $1500...
There was the red 4 string Combustion that took quite a while to sell in the Classifieds here, but that one, too, was $1600 (and is no longer available).
Which means the comment yesterday (?) about finding one below $1000 still seems rather... unlikely for a playable bass.

My Voodoo Prima was $2000 shipped from Saskatoon about 6 years ago.

And the now fretless Combustion (v3) I bought used locally for 900$.

Depends on if people are asking 'what the market will bear' or if they're looking at what they spent and trying to recoup or match that. I sold my AB1 to a TB friend for $1600 in 2012...because that's what I'd paid for it new in 2015. I do still remind that if he ever sells it, I'd like to buy it back.

 

[AB Nate]

I feel like the original run were arounnd 1200$ US or so. Sheldon was aiming for under $1K but I just don't think it was doable and still be a bass that any of use really would want to play or own.

That would make sense as I think back then we were closer on par with your $$

 

[AB Nate]

For someone who just recently joined the world of Dingwall basses, seeing the earlier prices is always surprising to me.
All that said - I've been tracking Dingwalls for sale here, on Reverb, and in a few other places (like the FB Dingwall forum). And finding Canadian ones below $2k and Chinese ones below $1500 seems exceptionally rare - and I actually wasn't able to find a recent sale of any of them below $1500...
There was the red 4 string Combustion that took quite a while to sell in the Classifieds here, but that one, too, was $1600 (and is no longer available).
Which means the comment yesterday (?) about finding one below $1000 still seems rather... unlikely for a playable bass.

your right. Under $1k is extremely rare and most likely a thing of the past

this is probably the best deal going if it’s legit. Seller has seemed very desperate.

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My Voodoo Prima was $2000 shipped from Saskatoon about 6 years ago.

And the now fretless Combustion (v3) I bought used locally for 900$.

Depends on if people are asking 'what the market will bear' or if they're looking at what they spent and trying to recoup or match that. I sold my AB1 to a TB friend for $1600 in 2012...because that's what I'd paid for it new in 2015. I do still remind that if he ever sells it, I'd like to buy it back.

all very friendly pricing.

If I had the extra scratch at the time your voodoo almost came to my house

 

[BurningSkies]

your right. Under $1k is extremely rare and most likely a thing of the past

this is probably the best deal going if it’s legit. Seller has seemed very desperate.

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all very friendly pricing.

If I had the extra scratch at the time your voodoo almost came to my house

At the time I was looking for a back up to the Rastaburst, having gone through phase where I sold off nearly all my basses except for the Rastaburst. I had really only played that one bass for about 4 years at that point and I had the AB in a case under our guest room bed along with my 1973 Precision and in the closet, a 2001 PRS bass and my fretless Jazz and my fretted jazz. The only one that I didn't sell was the fretted jazz, though I still don't play it at all.

When I got the Voodoo Prima, I realized it needed work (and it still does). I just haven't gotten around to it. There's some mojo with the frets/fretboard/neck where it really can only be set up for medium action. At the time it had had the original Bartolini preamp blown out and removed (I still have it) and it was wired as a passive Jazz bass with V/V/T. I didn't love the Bartolini pickups so I got some of the older squared shoulder Dingwall pickups from the shop (they're actually 4-string size, not 5 string), wired in the 4-way switch and put in a Aguilar OBP-2 preamp.

Once I get around to it, it'll go to the shop for a few things...like new brass inserts for the pickup mounting screws...and work on the neck. I really think I may get the original jumbo frets removed and replaced with banjo wire if do-able; if not that, then the banjo wire. That will also allow the tech to figure out if the fretboard needs to be worked on or if all the work needed can be done with a really good detailed fret leveling.

 

[IronSean]

Local used markets are likely to be a little more all over the place than reverb, etc. You can look at sold listings online, if you're going to sell on reverb and deal with the fees and shipping etc you can see what the going rate is. If you're just selling locally you might not check, and you might just get an idea in your head about the price without verifying.

Also, just because Dingwall's in general are rarer and command a price 20% below new to the buyer considering a new instrument, doesn't mean that Local Town X has anyone in it that appreciates them or is thinking in terms of the new price. If you're trying to find a buyer in Local Town X then you might need to lower your price to "cheap enough to risk trying this weird fanned fret thing"/"Cheap enough to convince a dingwall fan who doesn't need it that he can't afford to pass on it"/"cheap enough to make a buyer in the know confident he could flip it for a profit".

TL;DR: There are better deals to be found locally vs online, but that's very dependent on your local market.

 

[BurningSkies]

Local used markets are likely to be a little more all over the place than reverb, etc. You can look at sold listings online, if you're going to sell on reverb and deal with the fees and shipping etc you can see what the going rate is. If you're just selling locally you might not check, and you might just get an idea in your head about the price without verifying.

Also, just because Dingwall's in general are rarer and command a price 20% below new to the buyer considering a new instrument, doesn't mean that Local Town X has anyone in it that appreciates them or is thinking in terms of the new price. If you're trying to find a buyer in Local Town X then you might need to lower your price to "cheap enough to risk trying this weird fanned fret thing"/"Cheap enough to convince a dingwall fan who doesn't need it that he can't afford to pass on it"/"cheap enough to make a buyer in the know confident he could flip it for a profit".

TL;DR: There are better deals to be found locally vs online, but that's very dependent on your local market.

The other thing is that the models have been consistently upgraded over the years. So the v1 combustion that was $1200 new is a different bass than the current model is. The necks now have graphite reinforcement, they have nicer tops, the pickups have changed, the bridges are different, etc.

Similarly the original ABs were a fairly stripped down affair with few if any options; and now with the options and upgrades available you're comparing two unlike basses.

The other thing is that people may find that the older basses haven't appreciated in value as much as the newer ones. Voodoos and V/P's are not getting the ask that mid-2000's and later Z's can get. The original Voodoo/Zebras again didn't have a ton of options, they're ash bodied without tops or contrast layers etc. So the instruments and models have evolved even if some of the naming paradigms haven't changed.

 

[VolverseLoco]

your right. Under $1k is extremely rare and most likely a thing of the past

this is probably the best deal going if it’s legit. Seller has seemed very desperate.

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all very friendly pricing.

If I had the extra scratch at the time your voodoo almost came to my house

Parlez vous Francais, AB ? That is a cream/white Dingwall, a 2020 model for $1500.00 ? Talk about a FIRE SALE.. You know, I hear you guys talk about 'Facebook' groups. I dont have that rat bastard 'social media' thing going on, maybe I should, eh?

 

[Waltsdog]

For someone who just recently joined the world of Dingwall basses, seeing the earlier prices is always surprising to me.
All that said - I've been tracking Dingwalls for sale here, on Reverb, and in a few other places (like the FB Dingwall forum). And finding Canadian ones below $2k and Chinese ones below $1500 seems exceptionally rare - and I actually wasn't able to find a recent sale of any of them below $1500...
There was the red 4 string Combustion that took quite a while to sell in the Classifieds here, but that one, too, was $1600 (and is no longer available).
Which means the comment yesterday (?) about finding one below $1000 still seems rather... unlikely for a playable bass.

There is a 4 string combustion for sale in Montreal for $1500 CAD right now, they come up fairly regularly for decent prices but not on reverb/talkbass/auction sites.

 

[AB Nate]

At the time I was looking for a back up to the Rastaburst, having gone through phase where I sold off nearly all my basses except for the Rastaburst. I had really only played that one bass for about 4 years at that point and I had the AB in a case under our guest room bed along with my 1973 Precision and in the closet, a 2001 PRS bass and my fretless Jazz and my fretted jazz. The only one that I didn't sell was the fretted jazz, though I still don't play it at all.

When I got the Voodoo Prima, I realized it needed work (and it still does). I just haven't gotten around to it. There's some mojo with the frets/fretboard/neck where it really can only be set up for medium action. At the time it had had the original Bartolini preamp blown out and removed (I still have it) and it was wired as a passive Jazz bass with V/V/T. I didn't love the Bartolini pickups so I got some of the older squared shoulder Dingwall pickups from the shop (they're actually 4-string size, not 5 string), wired in the 4-way switch and put in a Aguilar OBP-2 preamp.

Once I get around to it, it'll go to the shop for a few things...like new brass inserts for the pickup mounting screws...and work on the neck. I really think I may get the original jumbo frets removed and replaced with banjo wire if do-able; if not that, then the banjo wire. That will also allow the tech to figure out if the fretboard needs to be worked on or if all the work needed can be done with a really good detailed fret leveling.

Well, we know that little gem of history is in good hands

 

[Smallmouth_Bass]

Parlez vous Francais, AB ? That is a cream/white Dingwall, a 2020 model for $1500.00 ? Talk about a FIRE SALE.. You know, I hear you guys talk about 'Facebook' groups. I dont have that rat bastard 'social media' thing going on, maybe I should, eh?

Oui. Ce n'est pas trop loin de moi. I saw that one the other week. It seems like a reasonable price.

 

[BurningSkies]

Well, we know that little gem of history is in good hands

Good enough hands to rip out the original frets?

Steven basically made me promise not to touch it and I haven't done anything I can't reverse...but still needs to be as playable as possible. That and I've owned it for longer than he did I think (he wasn't the original owner either)...so I think I can do what I want in the end.

 

[AB Nate]

Good enough hands to rip out the original frets?

Steven basically made me promise not to touch it and I haven't done anything I can't reverse...but still needs to be as playable as possible. That and I've owned it for longer than he did I think (he wasn't the original owner either)...so I think I can do what I want in the end.

I’d think anything mandatory or to repair/enhance the playability and sound is completely fair.