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Dingwall Owners Club

Doing my best to insist that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with an import Dingwall, it still has to be mentioned that a Canadian model built in a small shop by well-trained craftspeople and master builders is going to be a more solid and cohesive effort that what will come out of a high-volume factory. This is exactly why a Lamboghini is a better car than a Ford Taurus - both will get you to the grocery store, but the difference lies in the experience of getting there, the standard of performance while getting there, and an appreciation and desire of the craft that makes “A” comparatively better that “B”.

It essentially boils down to the hours of personal attention that go into the build, the quality of the components, and the whole of that being greater than the sum of the parts. The less manual labor that goes into a build, the less it will cost. An inexpensive guitar may take 2 hours to build as a team effort between humans and machines. It might take at least two hours to cut a nut on a premium guitar. Builders like this build up to a high standard - not down to a cost. The difference in quality of the hardware is important - the Canadian builds have premier woods, the finest hardware, and build strategies that are costly. The woods are from the best sources, the finish work is art in and of itself, the electronics are top-of-the line, and the hardware is built where quality is of utmost importance even when it isn’t being made by Dingwall.

Once you expertly assemble an instrument of the best parts made by the best craftspeople, something happens. The lines are tighter, the execution more refined, the tolerances smaller, the quest for perfection gets closer to being met. The end result is a piece of playable art with potential to be an heirloom piece. It becomes more than an object - it’s an effort born of passion and thousands of hours of experience. Players can pick up on this right away. In the world of bowed stringed instruments, the finest orchestral players can hear the and feel the difference between student/intermediate models immediately. There’s a long history of blindfold studies on this. That’s why they commonly pay high 5 and 6 figures for their instruments.

There’s lots of levels of diminishing returns in boutique basses, and we might be only talking about 10 to 15 to 20 percent improvement over standard offerings. Some of of live in that 10-15-20 percent and appreciate it when an instrument can offer it. Some, but not all differences are immediately noticeable, even to a novice or non-musician. I’d cry few tears if a law was passed where I could only play my Combustion or even a Mexican P-Bass. I’ve been doing this a long time and I know most of the tricks to get this instrument to sound its best in an ensemble. Countless great recordings were made with inexpensive instruments. That said, a great experience with a mass-produced instrument can be made into a superb one with a premium quality instrument.

The very best instruments provide that little extra spark of inspiration and make it so I can’t possibly blame the instrument if I can’t play something right. You know you’re in the room with something special, and it’s tough to speak with authority on this until you’e spent time with imports as well as bespoke flagship models to know the difference. All this is easily worth 2-3 times the price of a standard Dingwall build to me. YMMV.

this is all very well said, and I most definitely agree.

I just assume at this point this should already be assumed. In Canadian Pesos a new NG3 is $3k ish. A custom Z3 is $10k. I’d hope that if someone is considering the upgrade they have a grasp of that mentioned prior to considering the investment. otherwise another assumption I’ll make, Hahah, is they may never understand why the differences are what they are.

I will say, I am kicking myself a bit for missing an opportunity on a really nice NG3 that has “the magic” a few weeks back. It would have been a great travel bass and Honestly, if I didn’t know what the customs are like it could have been a “the one”. That ignorance could have been a bit of financial bliss.
 
I don’t think so.

An example, if you want to compare a Z to an NG and even went for a very NG looking appearance on the Z, you wouldn’t really be putting the financial effort into the looks unless you really love the lines of the Z that much more BUT, you’d have a significant increase in the quality of hardware, your tone could be affected by the woods used but the ergonomics and playability would be at the forefront of the noticeable differences.
From my experience and being a fan of the thin neck profile of the Z, this is a huge factor and the main factor that sold me on having a custom Z.

I figure since going for the bass design that feels best to me, I might as well try and have a visually appealing bass to match its playability in addition to the more important factors.

Even if it didn’t play any better than my NG3, I’d probably pay the price just own something this beautiful. This one sold on Facebook about a month ago. Masterpiece!
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Even if it didn’t play any better than my NG3, I’d probably pay the price just own something this beautiful. This one sold on Facebook about a month ago. Masterpiece!View attachment 4894544
Yup. Masterpiece. That one is nasty!!!


I’m full guilty man. I totally get it.

my wife likes them as art around the house too so I’m extra lucky on that front.
I think the internet has desensitized me a bit thou. Pics don’t ever seem to do some of these pieces justice. I’ll include the green sparkle finish on the production models in that statement. In person it always wows me!!
 
See, and the peace of mind of having the bass with me vs in the cargo hold is part of the reason for this question.
I trust my mechanical abilities more than I trust someone else’s ability to deal with my luggage.

I take things apart/assemble things for a living and often in my “spare” time

that said, an Enki is very close to being ordered up.
This has been bugging me big time. I travel a bunch between NY and FL...Im about to hop on a flight now again without my NG and while i have several nice parallel fret basses available every time I get a little dingwall seperation anxiety.
Ive thought real hard about taking it and have done research but Im too afraid it'll get relegated to the cargo hold in only a gig bag and unbolting seems wonky and not worth the risk but im glad im not the only one who's thought of that.

So obviously the most elegant solution is to buy another but im not gonna buy the same bass. So maybe a 6er...but Super J's seem nice...and i sure do love wenge...and further down the rabbit hole I go
 
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This has been bugging me big time. I travel a bunch between NY and FL...Im about to hop on a flight now again without my NG and while i have several nice parallel fret basses available every time I get a little dingwall seperation anxiety.
Ive thought real hard about taking it and have done research but Im too afraid it'll get relegated to the cargo hold in only a gig bag and unbolting seems wonky and not worth the risk but im glad im not the only one who's thought of that.

So obviously the most elegant solution is to buy another but im not gonna buy the same bass. So maybe a 6er...but Super J's seem nice...and i sure do love wenge...and further down the rabbit hole I go
Further 2 this, “I” have travelled with 2 very valuable dingwalls in only their gigbags on airplanes. I say “I” as one time it was actually my wife who did the travelling. A friend in the airline industry told us prior to a trip to Montreal and back home…. Take the flight crew a gift. Even just a simple box of chocolates! It goes incredibly far. We boarded the plane first with other folks who had special needs. Ie small children and such. I explained the bass was worth what it was and it could not be put under the plane and it was my only carry on. I have them a box of Lindt chocolates and proceeded to have a safe trip home with the bass securely right above my head. For the box of chocolate we were rewarded with amazing hospitality including free drinks, which I was a bit too hung over to accept.

the other time, wife walked through the airport with the new to me bass slung over her shoulder like a rockstar(she wears that title better then myself) walked on board they offered her the coat cabin for storage and safe at home it came.
That said, I’d be nice to have a bit more of a fool proof plan.

I’ve also shipped my fretless neck(by itself) down to Mo without issue.

A dual compartment bag that could protect the body and neck adequately I think I’d be tempted by for 2 flights a year. Hmmm
 
I think once I stick the neck Illusions on my Dbird, it'll be that much more betta! Practically a Custom.

I'm super happy with the import Dbird. The Canadian models really shine in the finish department, (see what I did there?) but the Dbird holds its own, and might be my favorite sounding Dingwall. Well... that six string AB-1 that got away had a special magic growl.....

If I remember correctly, I read an interview with Sheldon and he basically said that without the import models, the custom shop and whole operation would not be viable. It couldn't have been an easy decision, to put the brand on the line and introduce the imports.

The devil is in the details, and the imports are getting over a very high bar at a price that puts Dingwall in reach for many more players.
 
If I remember correctly, I read an interview with Sheldon and he basically said that without the import models, the custom shop and whole operation would not be viable. It couldn't have been an easy decision, to put the brand on the line and introduce the imports.

I did not know that! I would assume they're making a killing on the import models. If there's an import Super line that takes off they should be in even better standings.
 
It's on the way, it was talked about here a few pages back :)
If the fit, finish, and weight is anywhere close to my D-Roc, I'm really looking forward to them.

My D-Roc has impeccable fit and finish, I can't find a flaw anywhere. Plus, with the tuners and bridge pieces replaced with U.S. Hipshot, the hardware is top notch. Add in the pots and output jack replaced with higher quality, I really don't know what else makes it less than CS. And I do like the sound of the PUPs....and oh yeah, will have a custom pickguard made
 
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If the fit, finish, and weight is anywhere close to my D-Roc, I'm really looking forward to them.

My D-Roc has impeccable fit and finish, I can't find a flaw anywhere. Plus, with the tuners and bridge pieces replaced with U.S. Hipshot, the hardware is top notch. Add in the pots and output jack replaced with higher quality, I really don't know what else makes it less than CS. And I do like the sound of the PUPs....and oh yeah, will have a custom pickguard made
Might as well go custom if you wanna replace so much on the std?
 
It's on the way, it was talked about here a few pages back :)

I don't think it's necessarily "on the way". Last I heard from Ivan's interview they were trying to figure out how to do an import Super-series model, but nothing was confirmed yet. So it might be in the roadmap, but I don't think there has ever been any mention of timeframes. They also might want to first increase the current import model production to a level where all 5-stringers aren't sold out everywhere all the time and recover from the delays caused by the pandemic so I don't imagine we'll be seeing these models for at least 2 years.

There's also the Korea-thing they're trying out with the 5-string D-rocs, My gut tells me that that's something they're trying out with those models and if that seems to be a success, we might see more models moved to the Korean factory. The inclusion of compound radius and a Canadian style bridge in the specs is pretty exciting to me – it brings these models to almost on par with the Canadian models specswise.
 
I like my Super P5 enough that I'd consider adding an import Super J. At that point I could probably start selling off some Fenders that I keep around for the tonal variety (and sentimental attachment).

What I really want though is a Super J5 replacement for my sunburst Geddy Lee J4. Sunburst with maple neck and black blocks and bindings with that aggressive 70s Jazz bass bite. :drool:
 
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Hi. A little request for advice… The volume pot on my ABZ5 is behaving strangely - it kind of lost its range and goes from (what seems to be) full volume to « off » after less than 1/8th of its range. I had much more control before. Any thoughts?

If I need to replace it, would anyone know the pot’s specs or a good replacement reference (CTS?). And while I’m at it might as well ask the same for the passive tone cut (it sometimes scratches).

Many thanks in advance!
 
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Hey Club,

Is it okay to use a bit of wood polish/conditioner/wax on the all wenge neck? I usually use that on the rosewood fretboards...

The finish on the wenge fretboard is linseed oil. The finish on the back of the neck is a satin polyurethane...

Thanks in advance!

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I used this on my natural finish Warwicks for years. The stuff works great and its 10 bucks at home depot.
 
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I have not had a Dingwall in about 10 years. I used to have a 4string ABZ. I recently got this AB1, and I am very impressed with it. I most recently have been an MTD 535 player, and this Dingwall is every bit as good or better in every way. I think the thing that impresses me the most is the even tension all across the neck. It plays better than anything I have ever owned. I have been selling some basses trying to get down to 2-3, and I will definitely be getting another Dingwall. Just an incredible instrument!!!
 

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Nice AB1 @Green1 !
I first started playing Dingwalls about 10 years ago. I know they have been making fantastic basses for 30 years or so. I think they have really hit a whole ‘notha level over the past 4 or 5 years. The pickups and electronics have evolved over the years. The finishes are like WHOAA and ultimately, consistency is through the roof.
It’s amazing to see a company so dialed in.
I certainly have played MOST of the brands that have interested me over the years. MTD basses are great and I have a friend that has a pile of them. I am good right here.