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Dingwall Owners Club

#57,381
IvanBassist said:
I’ll be in Frankfurt this Saturday for the Dingwall event at one of the dealers.

Let me know if you have some questions and I’ll try to ask Sheldon about them :bassist:
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I plan to go there, too. But in case I can't make it:

- What pickup configs can we expect in the upcoming Super P production models? P? P/J? J/J?
- Will the Neve Design preamp be available separately as an accessory?
 
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#57,382
IvanBassist said:
I’ll be in Frankfurt this Saturday for the Dingwall event at one of the dealers.

Let me know if you have some questions and I’ll try to ask Sheldon about them :bassist:
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I missed him this weekend in Switzerland (too much work:().

I seem to recall you were thinking about having your Super J with the "dual density woods" option? I was wondering if Sheldon considered that the benefits on tone also applied to basses with a single-piece bridges...
 
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After set-up and playing the D-ROC for the weekend, I've decided that I really need the 5 string version. Mine is tuned BEAD and sounded amazing from the first pluck.

I do love the taper of the neck and would be much more infatuated with it if it were a bit wider. But alas, 19mm is the prefect width for my playing so I'll probably be waiting years for a custom 5 with 19mm spacing at the bridge. Until then, I learn to love the skinny neck.

At first, I was slightly disappointed, because the light weight and thinness made the bass feel less substantial than the Stingray I've been rocking. I then took a step back and reflected on more recent favorite instruments and the Lakland, reverend and dingwall stood out among some of the more classic styled basses.

I've come to the conclusion that the Dingwall is a different kind of instrument and I'm really really attracted to modern basses rather than classics.

So I'm saving up for a Dingwall D-Roc 5 string with a custom neck. Cheers.
 
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I am not a tech guy. For adjustments etc., I take my basses to a couple of different guys. One of the bands I play in uses E flat tuning, half step down from standard. This is simply to help the singer a bit. I have been using a Drop D pedal for this but I am a bit done with the processed sound. Plus, there are some glitches in the sound.

Is there any reason why I cannot just have my D-Roc Standard 4 set up for this type of tuning? I can't see why there would be problems but figured I might as well ask the question.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I de-tuned it the other night without a set up and it was unplayable. Every fret buzzed and the strings were too loose.
 
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Are these your favorite strings? Like no other strings will do?

Most strings I’ve used can handle a half step down. But I like light and low tension, heck, I’ll run TI jazz flats a half step down. Of course, YMMV.

If every thing went south with just a half step down, I’d take a look down the neck. Is it now slightly back bowed? Simply loosen the truss rod until you get the relief that suits you. You also might need to raise the saddles a bit, depending on your right hand attack.

If the strings are just too loose at a half step down, and you’ve improved the set up, it’s on to different strings. DR makes strings just for downtuning. I haven’t used them, but most DR sets I have tried were long enough to make it on four string longscales like the Dbird.

I really like the DR pure blues, a nickel round that comes in several gauges.

Jason at FretNation is supper knowledgable on strings for longscale Dingwalls.

Payson strings are another great option, and they come in multiple gauges.

Both Payson and FretNation will sell singles as well.

I bitched about the downtuning thing at first, but after a while I really liked it. After that, standard felt to tight and stiff. That set off the long hunt for lighter strings.

I’m sure there are others in this thread with more downtuning experience.
 
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singlemalt said:
Are these your favorite strings? Like no other strings will do?

Most strings I’ve used can handle a half step down. But I like light and low tension, heck, I’ll run TI jazz flats a half step down. Of course, YMMV.

If every thing went south with just a half step down, I’d take a look down the neck. Is it now slightly back bowed? Simply loosen the truss rod until you get the relief that suits you. You also might need to raise the saddles a bit, depending on your right hand attack.

If the strings are just too loose at a half step down, and you’ve improved the set up, it’s on to different strings. DR makes strings just for downtuning. I haven’t used them, but most DR sets I have tried were long enough to make it on four string longscales like the Dbird.

I really like the DR pure blues, a nickel round that comes in several gauges.

Jason at FretNation is supper knowledgable on strings for longscale Dingwalls.

Payson strings are another great option, and they come in multiple gauges.

Both Payson and FretNation will sell singles as well.
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Thanks for the reply. I am using the Dingwall nickel strings it was shipped with, new set. When I detuned the other day it was not with a proper set up. Was just a quick experiment.
 
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Bass Ape said:
So I'm saving up for a Dingwall D-Roc 5 string with a custom neck. Cheers.
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They won't do it unless you're a signed artist, so stop holding your breath and start getting use to 18mm spacing.

Geddyfleaharris said:
Thanks for the reply. I am using the Dingwall nickel strings it was shipped with, new set. When I detuned the other day it was not with a proper set up. Was just a quick experiment.
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It will always be a compromise. You can bump up the string size slightly to accomodate detuning the whole bass 1/2 step, but then everything will be tighter in standard tuning. Plus, your action will change slightly as the neck bows more under the tension of EADG vs. 1/2 down.

Is the music you're playing in either tuning complex enough that tuning down to DGCF or even BEAD would be a major headache? IMO, BEAD is the way to go when you need to alternative detuning and standard. You still have an open E and A for the riffs that pivot off of them, but you can grab that Eb or even lower when you need that, too.

The detuning debacle is the reason many of us just have different basses for different tunings, because there's no ideal way to set one bass up to play perfectly to your preferences in two different tunings.

Apologies if you're talking about setting the bass up only for 1/2 step down. It wasn't clear if you meant you'd use a different bass for standard tuning. If that's the case, have your tech set the bass up for 1/2 step down. The Dingwall strings are plenty taut enough to play 1/2 step down with a good setup IMO.
 
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J Posega said:
They won't do it unless you're a signed artist, so stop holding your breath and start getting use to 18mm spacing.

It will always be a compromise. You can bump up the string size slightly to accomodate detuning the whole bass 1/2 step, but then everything will be tighter in standard tuning. Plus, your action will change slightly as the neck bows more under the tension of EADG vs. 1/2 down.

Is the music you're playing in either tuning complex enough that tuning down to DGCF or even BEAD would be a major headache? IMO, BEAD is the way to go when you need to alternative detuning and standard. You still have an open E and A for the riffs that pivot off of them, but you can grab that Eb or even lower when you need that, too.

The detuning debacle is the reason many of us just have different basses for different tunings, because there's no ideal way to set one bass up to play perfectly to your preferences in two different tunings.

Apologies if you're talking about setting the bass up only for 1/2 step down. It wasn't clear if you meant you'd use a different bass for standard tuning. If that's the case, have your tech set the bass up for 1/2 step down. The Dingwall strings are plenty taut enough to play 1/2 step down with a good setup IMO.
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Thanks for the reply. I only need the half step down tuning. All our songs are a half step down. Once it is there it will stay there. I have other basses I can use for standard.if needed.
 
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Geddyfleaharris said:
Thanks for the reply. I am using the Dingwall nickel strings it was shipped with, new set. When I detuned the other day it was not with a proper set up. Was just a quick experiment.
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as mentioned above, “If that's the case, have your tech set the bass up for 1/2 step down. The Dingwall strings are plenty taut enough to play 1/2 step down with a good setup IMO.”
You should be fine with a proper set up and factory strings.
I did have a set of kalliums at one point that I didn’t love tuned standard. As soon as I dropped the combustion 1/2 step they were fantastic. So that’s an option but what you are trying to do is easily achievable with a bit of set up tweaking.
 
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Well,

I had a very cool weekend and there was some dingwall content.
Dingwall trade content to be specific. ..

The crazy things we sometimes do.
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I didn’t think these 2 would ever actually be united.
 
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AB Nate said:
Well,

I had a very cool weekend and there was some dingwall content.
Dingwall trade content to be specific. ..

The crazy things we sometimes do.
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I didn’t think these 2 would ever actually be united.
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Just

Like

Wow

Parallel Universe reversal.
Like Spock with a goatee and evil intentions.
 
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AB Nate said:
Well,

I had a very cool weekend and there was some dingwall content.
Dingwall trade content to be specific. ..

The crazy things we sometimes do.
View attachment 5419534

I didn’t think these 2 would ever actually be united.
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Yeah, I can't stop looking at these. They're amazing.
What pickups / pres are in each? Are they twinsies still or going to make one unique from the other?
 

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