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Dingwall Owners Club

Hi Dingwall owners!

I briefly owned a NG-3 6 string and ended up selling it again.
My main complaints were:
-Too heavy (4,6kg)
-Too punchy/aggressive sounding
-No real treble control

The overall ergonomics were less good than on my Le Fay six string.

Now I have a chance of buying an ABZ 6, which is at 3,7kg and passive.

To those who have owned or played both: Is there a notable difference in terms of ergonomics between the NG-3 6 and the ABZ 6 ?

I always found that my ABs hung a bit more to my liking. I don’t believe the back strap pin is exactly the same spot. I could be wrong on that but I always found the ABs to sit different. I’ve also really enjoyed some killer NGs.

the other thing, as mentioned is the neck thickness and feel dependant on wood selection. With that the FB radius is also different. 7.25 I think the AB vs 9 something on the NG. I have experienced that most AB necks do feel faster than combustion necks.

The other thing however noticeable is I believe that the tension is retained better when the string is in movement with the one piece bridge vs the hip shot saddles. Even more so of the Z. Same distances, same resting tension but noticeably more string control and moving tension when driving that low B. neck woods can come into play on this as well IMO especially when looking at a long necked 37”.

that said, if your looking for dingwall mastery, the Z is the flagship for a reason. I have not played a Le Fay but would really
Like to. Amazing basses… I hope to play a fanned Le Fay

with that I haven’t played any other high level bass I liked better then my Zs. Of course we all have preference but I’ve found mine.
 
I can only speak on my ABZ4 vs my NG3 4, but the ABZ is the most comfortable bass I've ever played. Ergonomics, neck, weight, tone, etc.

I've never had a 6 string NG, I had a 5.

I did own a 6 string ABZ that was only 8.5lbs. Very comfortable instrument. The reach reducing pin on the Canadian models may help with comfort for you.

The aggressiveness will depend on the pickup and preamp set up on the AB you're looking at.

The NGs have fairly aggressive pickups.

I had both. Main difference was the neck profile. ABZ 6 has a slightly thinner neck than NG3-6, which made all the difference for me.

I always found that my ABs hung a bit more to my liking. I don’t believe the back strap pin is exactly the same spot. I could be wrong on that but I always found the ABs to sit different. I’ve also really enjoyed some killer NGs.

the other thing, as mentioned is the neck thickness and feel dependant on wood selection. With that the FB radius is also different. 7.25 I think the AB vs 9 something on the NG. I have experienced that most AB necks do feel faster than combustion necks.

The other thing however noticeable is I believe that the tension is retained better when the string is in movement with the one piece bridge vs the hip shot saddles. Even more so of the Z. Same distances, same resting tension but noticeably more string control and moving tension when driving that low B. neck woods can come into play on this as well IMO especially when looking at a long necked 37”.

that said, if your looking for dingwall mastery, the Z is the flagship for a reason. I have not played a Le Fay but would really
Like to. Amazing basses… I hope to play a fanned Le Fay

with that I haven’t played any other high level bass I liked better then my Zs. Of course we all have preference but I’ve found mine.

Thank you all for your replies.
What I do take away from this is that there is a serious chance that I might like the ABZ a lot more than I liked the NG-3.
 
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The ABZ on the left, I regretfully sold - at least it went to an amazing TBer and friend...sold the black Super PJ, also to a great TB'er (who I believe sold it to order a custom)...I still have the middle beauty - I do miss the red one for the depth of tone it had. I feel like the passive long scale Dingwall's, are perfection IMO.
 
Hi Dingwall owners!

I briefly owned a NG-3 6 string and ended up selling it again.
My main complaints were:
-Too heavy (4,6kg)
-Too punchy/aggressive sounding
-No real treble control

The overall ergonomics were less good than on my Le Fay six string.

Now I have a chance of buying an ABZ 6, which is at 3,7kg and passive.

To those who have owned or played both: Is there a notable difference in terms of ergonomics between the NG-3 6 and the ABZ 6 ?
my mahogany body 6 says hi. weight never bothered be so long as a bass was balanced. this baby is perfect.

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hello team. time for my super j build. i am going pretty classic fender style with 3x, darkglass, black pg, pearl black block inlays, maple board and neck, chrome hardware, natural swamp ash body.

thoughts of one vs 5 piece maple neck? just wondering what the headstock will look like as 5 piece?
My former 2013 SJ had a 5 piece neck. Here some pics I could find that show the headstock.
 

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The ABZ on the left, I regretfully sold - at least it went to an amazing TBer and friend...sold the black Super PJ, also to a great TB'er (who I believe sold it to order a custom)...I still have the middle beauty - I do miss the red one for the depth of tone it had. I feel like the passive long scale Dingwall's, are perfection IMO.
I always dug that ABZ. Maybe it’ll show up one day.
 
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I always dug that ABZ. Maybe it’ll show up one day.
yeah - it was perfect specs for me - passive, ash body, wenge neck and fingerboard, P pickups - i don't even think it weighed 8lbs. Monsterous tones. As much as I love my Super P, the ABZ was on another level, tone-wise.
Of all my basses I sold thru the years, that was the only one that reeeeally saddened me - albeit the fella that has it now, is a great dude and it's been his number one since he got it (he will treat it kindly). If he visits up here with it Rich, I will let ya know. :bassist:
 
Finally had some time to test my new 6-way switch that was installed courtesy of my buddy Sean Fairchild who some of you may know from his work with @tombowlus and the crew over at Bass Gear Magazine. I’d tag him but I can’t remember his TB handle. Whoops.

My SJ came with the standard 3X switch. Two years ago I had the switch replaced with a custom one from Mo that had all of the parallel pairs and all of the solo options. I hated the NM parallel pair, and only included the B solo option because I felt like I was “supposed to.” I ended up missing the BM series option and really wanted to try the Dingwall All-On option. I had Mo build me a version of the standard 6-way that has the greatest hits from both the standard and D-Roc switches, but in a different order more suited to the way my brain works. Those settings are as follows:
  1. All-on
  2. BM series
  3. BM parallel
  4. BN parallel
  5. M solo
  6. N solo
My thoughts on those positions with an SJ loaded with SF2s and the Glockenklang preamp are as follows:
  1. Scooped in a different way than a typical Jazz with both pickups on. It’s quite dark and then there’s this bright sparkle on top of the darkness. It’s an interesting tone. The setup is BM in parallel and then combined with N in series. I would love to hear BM in series (so they’d act like a single pickup) and then in parallel with N. In my mind that would be more akin to a J/MM pickup setup and may be a more usable sound for my taste. I’m not going to do another switch just to find out, but it does have me wondering.
  2. This to me is the most Stingray sounding option of the bunch. A cool sound in the right context, and the wrong sound in others. Not a sound that will work for everything, but when it works it’s just the thing. This setting is hotter than all the others by a decent margin.
  3. My go-to setting when playing live over the last two years and it’ll probably remain that way even with this new switch. More mids than a Jazz but a little more polite than a Stingray. It reminds me a bit of the so-called Avanti (sp?) pickup spacing on modern Sadowsky basses. I’ve grown to love this setting and it’s always the first thing I try when dialing in a tone on basically anything.
  4. The Jazz setting that doesn’t really sound like a Jazz. To my ears it’s more Spector’y but that’s not really right either. It’s scoopy with a bit more throaty character than a Jazz. It’s a usable sound but not my go to on a gig for anything but slap. With my S/P switches configured P for neck and S for bridge I quite like it but it still doesn’t compare, for my taste, to setting 3.
  5. Like a P but tighter and more aggressive. Ridiculously great rock tone. If you want to cut, this will do it. I recorded a 22-song record last year and did 21 of the songs with this setting. A studio I do sessions for in Vegas, which included the aforementioned record, has been saying “use that white bass with whatever setting you did last time” when giving me tracking notes. The engineer there loves this tone, and I don’t disagree. It’s not my personal go-to, but it’s an absolute workhorse for anything with drums and guitars in the mix.
  6. For most things I view this as a less good version of setting 5. Sure, it’s fatter but it’s also more bloated and less controlled for lack of a better term. If I put the bass in passive mode, roll off the tone a bit, palm mute and play with my thumb or the Jamerson hook technique it can get Motown’y in a pleasant way. That’s likely the extent of what I’ll use this setting for considering there’s what I consider to be a better sounding option one knob position away for most things.
I could easily get by with just settings 3 and 5 but am happy to have the others on tap for studio sessions where something different might be just the thing.

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I just picked up one of these 6-way Middle-Solo switches from Fret Nation but it came without a wiring diagram. :sour:
I put in a request for one but wondered if someone already had one they could share...
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I just picked up one of these 6-way M-solo switches from Fret Nation but it came without a wiring diagram. :sour:
I put in a request for one but wondered if someone already had one they could share...
What switching options did you get, and in what order? You can always email Mo and ask him for one, or if someone else has the same switch they might be able to provide it.
 
I just picked up one of these 6-way M-solo switches from Fret Nation but it came without a wiring diagram. :sour:
I put in a request for one but wondered if someone already had one they could share...

I had one in a Droc, and I don't have the diagram, but I did write it down assuming your's is similar...


Neck blue side tab

Middle bottom tab

Bridge red side tab

Good Luck!
 
I had one in a Droc, and I don't have the diagram, but I did write it down assuming your's is similar...


Neck blue side tab

Middle bottom tab

Bridge red side tab

Good Luck!
This is the diagram I was able to obtain to wire the 6-way rotary shown above:
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Jason sent me some additional diagrams which I'm going to pass on to my tech for install.
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Does anyone know if original Combustion FD-3A pickups can be wired for parallel/series switching? They have three wires per pickup (white/red/black).
I never tried it but there's a short wire on the bottom of the pickup that connects the halves - you can carefully solder longer wires to it and use that for S/P switching. I think there are diagrams and pics a thousand or two pages back...
 
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