I'd love to do a Zoom one and meet some new people!!Not that I want to be on Zoom outside work, but if we do it could hold a virtual meet and greet as part of the function to include anyone who can't make it in person.
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I'd love to do a Zoom one and meet some new people!!Not that I want to be on Zoom outside work, but if we do it could hold a virtual meet and greet as part of the function to include anyone who can't make it in person.
My introduction to the Dingwall was the DROC. Awesome bass, but I wish my introduction had been with the JT, or other Combustion style bass. Something about my JT 5 string ended my GAS. I found what I was looking for. I feel the same with my Darkray 5. One thing I’ve learned is that I definitely prefer 5 strings over 4 strings. If I could go back and change some things about the last two years, I would have been way more patient. I had no idea that the JT basses were going to be offered at a huge discount this year. I’m sure no one else did either. I’m just thankful it happened.
Please report back once you get it installed.I ordered one for my NG3, said it should ship in a couple of weeks. You can also program it with USBC to any combination in any order, and only have your 5 that you like and not have to scroll through them all.
Stoked about this.
I recently got word that my new custom won’t be ready this year either
Oh well. The wait time is not so bad when you have 3 other DWs![]()
Jason told me that it had a USBC port on the other side, and this pic is on Facebook. I also was told that you could program any combination in any order, and only the ones you want (12 max). The missing ones may well be hidden cheat codes and not one of the default 12 that come preloaded.Dang, and here I'm thinking about wiring my D-bird with a 3-way switch for bridge/middle series, middle solo, bridge/neck parallel.
Curious how the switch works if it's 12 positions but you can set fewer actually selections; do you get duplicates in multiple positions? Or after you hit your n-th selection does the switch just not do anything in the next several positions.
Cool in theory to have all the options ever, but seems too complicated for me without some sort of indicator of what setting you're on besides using your ears. That's why on guitar/Bass VI I like the Free-Way switch, you can at least see which of the 10 positions you're in like a stick shift.
I know Dingwall briefly offered a multi-switch system that didn't really take off, but I'd like to see more manufacturers and tinkerers rethinking the boring ol' pickup selector.
Dang, and here I'm thinking about wiring my D-bird with a 3-way switch for bridge/middle series, middle solo, bridge/neck parallel.
Curious how the switch works if it's 12 positions but you can set fewer actually selections; do you get duplicates in multiple positions? Or after you hit your n-th selection does the switch just not do anything in the next several positions.
Cool in theory to have all the options ever, but seems too complicated for me without some sort of indicator of what setting you're on besides using your ears. That's why on guitar/Bass VI I like the Free-Way switch, you can at least see which of the 10 positions you're in like a stick shift.
I know Dingwall briefly offered a multi-switch system that didn't really take off, but I'd like to see more manufacturers and tinkerers rethinking the boring ol' pickup selector.
Seems rather extravagant, but I’d like to see this all controlled via foot switch controllers. Much like how so many people use various amp modelers and whatnot.On my Sklar, I have the Mo Mina designed (and installed by him as well) 6 way rotary with middle solo… one of two standard configurations available although Mo will also customize the switch settings if desired.
Of course, having a number of different tones available is great but are 12 better than a carefully chosen 6?
I have no doubts you could find a way to control it with an Arduino or Raspberry Pi, the smallest ones could do it no problem, but then your running up against space and battery life limitations. Luckily the cavity is fairly spacious, so it can be done.Seems rather extravagant, but I’d like to see this all controlled via foot switch controllers. Much like how so many people use various amp modelers and whatnot.
Or even better, have it programmable on an app to save the settings you like In what ever order you want whether it be 2 or 5 or 12 different pickup combinations, and then pull up on the knob to access those saved combinations and have the knob light up on the side the that says what position (based off the numbering system 1-12) is activated.
Seems like it would be incredibly complicated to do but for tone-tinkerers like myself, it sure would be a lot of fun. Like @gustobassman said before, I’m also a pretty much 2 settings user on my NG3, but I LOVE experimenting. I kinda more recently learned how AWESOME Middle/Bridge in parallel is. Not for everything, but man it sounds killer for when it works. Not able to keep that AND my overall preferred Neck/Bridge in parallel with the current stock wiring and I’m nowhere near savvy enough to wire it myself or if it’s even possible.
This is one of the main benefits of the app. You will have a minimum of 2, and a maximum of 12, "Positions" to configure. Each position will be fully configurable with nearly any combination of pickups that you want.Curious how the switch works if it's 12 positions but you can set fewer actually selections; do you get duplicates in multiple positions? Or after you hit your n-th selection does the switch just not do anything in the next several positions.
This is certainly a little hard to solve through software, but, I am implementing something.Cool in theory to have all the options ever, but seems too complicated for me without some sort of indicator of what setting you're on besides using your ears.
You're thinking of VooDoo Selector, and I swear, someday I'll own one of the... three? that have it. Somehow. I don't know how but I need that switching setup.I know Dingwall briefly offered a multi-switch system that didn't really take off, but I'd like to see more manufacturers and tinkerers rethinking the boring ol' pickup selector.
See above a bitOf course, having a number of different tones available is great but are 12 better than a carefully chosen 6?
This would technically be possible actually, but, not something I think we're going to implement. It'd be a 2nd cable (USB-C) that would have to be wired up to a momentary switch. Unfortunately no MIDI singaling available in hardware.Seems rather extravagant, but I’d like to see this all controlled via foot switch controllers. Much like how so many people use various amp modelers and whatnot.
Most of this is coming (see above), except the light part. That'd require a hardware revision (and more power draw, frankly).Or even better, have it programmable on an app to save the settings you like In what ever order you want whether it be 2 or 5 or 12 different pickup combinations, and then pull up on the knob to access those saved combinations and have the knob light up on the side the that says what position (based off the numbering system 1-12) is activated.
See my note about using it in an Audition kind of way, above. It's not perfect, but, I do think it's interesting.Seems like it would be incredibly complicated to do but for tone-tinkerers like myself, it sure would be a lot of fun. Like @gustobassman said before, I’m also a pretty much 2 settings user on my NG3, but I LOVE experimenting. I kinda more recently learned how AWESOME Middle/Bridge in parallel is after swapping pickups around. Not for everything, but man it sounds killer for when it works. Not able to keep that AND my overall preferred Neck/Bridge in parallel with the current stock wiring and I’m nowhere near savvy enough to wire it myself or if it’s even possible.
The switch will always require power to operate, there's no getting around that. So you'll be able to use push/pull to disengage the preamp, but, you want a jack-switched source for power to the switch. So in a sense you're not far off the mark of "this makes all your basses active" in a "there's an active powered circuit" in there, but, the distinction being that it's not altering signal, just relay open/close (more similar to S/P switches than anything else).Super exciting stuff @Selta and @CormacBass
Since this switch requires power, how does it interact with the push-pull active/passive switches on many Dingwalls? Would installing this effectively make the bass active-only, or is there a consideration for a method to preserve passive operation? If passive operation can be retained, how does that work with the pickup selection? Is there a default setting that occurs when power is disconnected from the unit? I believe I read earlier that all three in parallel becomes the default if power is ever lost but I'm not seeing that comment anymore (probably just overlooking it).
I know it would probably require significantly more hardware, but incorporating internal S/P control over the pickup coils in addition to the pickup selection would be really cool.I'm going to answer some of these. Please note a couple of things as you read my responses:
- I'm writing the firmware and app for McGrath Guitars. Beyond that, I am not affiliated with McGrath in any way. I had no hand in hardware.
- McGrath is compensating me for the firmware and app
- All of the below should be considered not fully validated. I don't yet have hardware in hand, so, I'm working off schematics. While it should hold true in reality, there are possibilities of this not all happening exactly as I describe here.
- Keep in mind, working on things like this are physical-space limited, power-limited, and hardware-limited. We can do a lot with what McGrath already cooked up, but, some would require a lot of new hardware and a lot more power draw.
This is one of the main benefits of the app. You will have a minimum of 2, and a maximum of 12, "Positions" to configure. Each position will be fully configurable with nearly any combination of pickups that you want.
Additionally, say you have 12 configured. But you decide you don't actually use numbers 8, 10, and 11. In the app, you simply will go in and set those to "skipped". This does kind of mentally change the ordering, so instead of 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12, it'll go 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-9-12 as you rotate the knob. You still rotate through 9 "clicks" on the knob, but logically you're "skipping" positions in software.
This is certainly a little hard to solve through software, but, I am implementing something.
If you are sitting at a computer with the Editor open and connected to the switch in the instrument, as you physically move the knob on the bass, the Editor will also update in nearly real-time as well (something like 55ms delay). So you can do auditioning while you're programming it. The gap that remains and would require more hardware would be translating that to live so you know "Where am I?". That's where Favorite and Failsafe come in to play.
Favorite is the Position that you choose so when you press the knob, it'll switch to that setting. If you press the knob a 2nd time, it'll return to the previous setting. So if Favorite is Position 2, and you're on Position 8, you can tap to go to Position 2, then tap again to go back to Position 8.
Failsafe is Triple Press. If you do that, it'll always go to Position 1.
You're thinking of VooDoo Selector, and I swear, someday I'll own one of the... three? that have it. Somehow. I don't know how but I need that switching setup.
See above a bityou can have anywhere from 2 to 12, and you get to now choose which positions have what configured.
This would technically be possible actually, but, not something I think we're going to implement. It'd be a 2nd cable (USB-C) that would have to be wired up to a momentary switch. Unfortunately no MIDI singaling available in hardware.
Most of this is coming (see above), except the light part. That'd require a hardware revision (and more power draw, frankly).
See my note about using it in an Audition kind of way, above. It's not perfect, but, I do think it's interesting.
There's also a few other features I'm cooking up for it. I'm hoping to have the first beta-ish level app sent to McGrath in the next ~week or so. Plus I'll be getting my own switch, and can do more rapid development once I have it in hand for direct testing rather than inferring from schematics. From there we'll iterate and refine it.
Stay tuned for more!
I could see a possible future for a switch assembly doing this. It'd be pretty complex, and likely power-heavy, but would be neat as a potential retro-fit to have S/P switches programmatically available.I know it would probably require significantly more hardware, but incorporating internal S/P control over the pickup coils in addition to the pickup selection would be really cool.
My two favorite sounds are
- middle solo with the coils in series (like on D-Roc)
- bridge and middle in series, with bridge coils in series and middle coils in parallel (like on 3X)
and it would be nice to get between them without multiple switches.
Being able to put pickup coils in parallel could also help mitigate some of the output discrepancies involved with putting pickups in series with each other, if someone were interested in that. I realize that would change the tone as well.
I also realize that this new switch adds a level of flexibility not previously attainable in a pickup selector, whereas my issue already has a solution in S/P switches, and I should probably just suck it up and install a push/pull control for my middle pickup wiring.![]()