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Do Only Prog-Fans Like Chris Squire?

Other than the really early stuff, Yes and similar bands went over my head, as I thought it was pretentious as $%&%$, but he's a great player.

"Do you like Phil Collins? I'm a big Genesis fan, ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. It was too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke, where uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent".

 
Yes, I love Chris Squire and Yes.

And Yes, I don't really consider myself a fan of Prog. Genesis, ELP, Crimson, and Rush(whenever Geddy sings) just doesn't really do it for me. There is something that is emotionally detached from much of it that prevents it from grabbing me.

I don't know why Yes is different.

What about Supertramp? Are they Prog or Pop? Keyboard based usually equals Prog.?.?
I love me some Supertramp. The Logical Song is my jam.
 
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This statement is an opinion and not necessarily true.
Start with The Mars Volta.
There's also Orphan Project, Toe, Spock's Beard, Riverside (Poland), Pelican, Godspeed You Black Emperor.
Just to name a few.
Take a look.
See how I was helpful and not condescending?

Is that what you consider progressive? I did check out most of those bands about 10-12 years ago, but none of them really sustained my interest. Most bands on that list average about 14-20 years old, so your cutoff point for what's "prog" is a little nebulous.

As an aside, if you can't see it yourself, let me advise you that you have come across in a distinctly condescending way in this thread. Doesn't mean it's intentional, but that's what it appears like from a detached observer. I offer this in the spirit of helpfulness.

Now, with that out of the way, you seem serious about your musical tastes. What is the latest thing you heard musically that really excited you? I've always got my antennae up for something good I haven't heard.
 
There is nothing "prog" or "progressive" about music from 20+ years ago. Sorry.

We are using the term as a name of a specific style or genre of music.
Rock has nothing to do with minerals, metal has nothing to do with a specific class of elements or alloys, punk?, jazz?...? What in the hell does Christian rock have to do anything???
 
Is that what you consider progressive? I did check out most of those bands about 10-12 years ago, but none of them really sustained my interest. Most bands on that list average about 14-20 years old, so your cutoff point for what's "prog" is a little nebulous.

As an aside, if you can't see it yourself, let me advise you that you have come across in a distinctly condescending way in this thread. Doesn't mean it's intentional, but that's what it appears like from a detached observer. I offer this in the spirit of helpfulness.
But, your first paragraph is full of condescension...
Oh well, I don't care.
Yeah I mentioned some bands that have been around a while now but jeez, they're new compared to what everyone around here seems to feel are the end-all be-all prog bands.

progressive


[pruh-gres-iv]

adjective
1. favoring or advocating Link Removed, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are


Now, with that out of the way, you seem serious about your musical tastes. What is the latest thing you heard musically that really excited you? I've always got my antennae up for something good I haven't heard.

We can do that via PM if you like.
 
We are using the term as a name of a specific style or genre of music.
Rock has nothing to do with minerals, metal has nothing to do with a specific class of elements or alloys, punk?, jazz?...? What in the hell does Christian rock have to do anything???
But the concept of prog as a genre is meaningless without the semantics of the word itself. Your other examples are poor analogies.
 
We are using the term as a name of a specific style or genre of music.

It's really weird to me that some people have come into this thread to debate what "Prog" is. Besides being a thread de-rail, it's not something that's debatable when it comes to Chris Squire or Yes. Do any google search on Squire or Yes and you will see "Prog" mentioned. Just weird tangents some people get on. I guess there's trolls anywhere you go.
 
But the concept of prog as a genre is meaningless without the semantics of the word itself. Your other examples are poor analogies.
I respectfully disagree with that statement.
The very point I was making is that the meaning of the word has absolutely nothing to do with the use of the word as a name for a genre of music.
 
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I respectfully disagree with that statement.
The very point I was making is that the meaning of the word has absolutely nothing to do with the use of the word as a name for a genre of music.
But with PROGRESSIVE ROCK it most certainly did. That's the whole point of it having become a genre in the first place. The PROGRESSION of rock away from user-friendly radio schlock.

Let's respect the wishes of the original poster: @Jaco Taco.
And cease this meaningless debate.
Back to his conversation please.
 
So, yes I love Chris Squire.
And no, I don't really like most other Prog.

I think the reason is that the songs lack a certain emotional content.

(Obviously, that is only my opinion. I really don't want to insult anyone who feels a deep connection to Tom Sawyer or Red Barchetta.)
 
When i first heard Yes, the tape was "Close To The Edge", I was a senior in high school. I thought it was music from hell. I was a classically trained string bassist. Then I listened to the interplay between Bruford and Squire. Throw in Wakemann and Howe, and I thought this could be what a Bach symphony would sound like in 1975. Then friends told me about Kansas's "Song For America". Then came "Foxtrot" with "Suppers Ready", "Horizens", "The Battle of Epping Forest", "The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway". And of course, then came Gentle Giant "Three Friends". Then I heard "Tales From Topographic Oceans", and "Relayer". I could go on and on starting with "Court of The Crimson King" and "Starless and Bible Black". Do I love Squire and other "Prog" bassists.....You Betcha. Will the ability to play it make me money.....don't think so!
 
It's really weird to me that some people have come into this thread to debate what "Prog" is. Besides being a thread de-rail, it's not something that's debatable when it comes to Chris Squire or Yes. Do any google search on Squire or Yes and you will see "Prog" mentioned. Just weird tangents some people get on. I guess there's trolls anywhere you go.
Anyone younger than, 40?, won't get it. Prog is prog. This other stuff, metal, Dream Theatre, Buckethead, whatever. Is not Prog. Prog was musicianship, lyrics, album art, post-psychedelia, mystery, bombast, weird band quotes. Yes were the Prog's Prog. Chris Squire is a living legend from another age.