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Do you have a perfect bass?

A perfect bass.

One you would never consider changing. One that came just right straight from the factory...

Anybody else have a bass that you wouldn’t change a thing on?

yeah that's pretty much all my basses at this point. I did the mod/swap thing for a while, never really got me anywhere, though I had fun and learned a few things along the way. I have a gotoh bridge on one of my P basses but it came that way. of course I swap strings for different sounds, but otherwise I mostly just leave my instruments as they are and focus on other things that I feel will make a much bigger difference (aka my playing lol).
 
Yes....

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I figured you would say your PRS ;)

Hey Jimmy

Yeah, even though I am up to 25 basses with a new batch of 6 planned for the winter, it's the only bass I owned or needed for 20 years. I have still never been able to actually replace her, the truth is - nothing truly compares. Paul's craftsmanship, attention to detail, and intense dedication in the early days of 1977 were totally off the charts. Remember my #11 was a full 8 years before the PRS factory opened.

What's not to love? Medium scale, 24 frets, nine position rotary switch on the custom quad-pole tapped Hi-A Beast pickup - plus a Rickenbacker treble pickup, immaculately rewound by Paul. If you do the math, the bass has 20 very usable and versatile sounds, which for me is thrilling.

Since I was unable to get Bartolini and Paul together on a modern version of this pickup, I don't have any idea where to start in duplicating that thrill...

So I wander aimlessly from bass to bass - wishing and hoping that some day....

Sigh...
 
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Hey Jimmy

Yeah, even though I am up to 25 basses with a new batch of 6 planned for the winter, it's the only bass I owned or needed for 20 years. I have still never been able to actually replace her, the truth is - nothing truly compares. Paul's craftsmanship, attention to detail, and intense dedication in the early days of 1977 were totally off the charts. Remember my #11 was a full 8 years before the PRS factory opened.

What's not to love? Medium scale, 24 frets, nine position rotary switch on the custom quad-pole tapped Hi-A Beast pickup - plus a Rickenbacker treble pickup, immaculately rewound by Paul. If you do the math, the bass has 20 very usable and versatile sounds, which for me is thrilling.

Since I was unable to get Bartolini and Paul together on a modern version of this pickup, I don't have any idea where to start in duplicating that thrill...

So I wander aimlessly from bass to bass - wishing and hoping that some day....

Sigh...
So Bart’s participation is mandatory? Can’t think of any reason other than the usual pandemic stuff that you couldn’t get a similar pickup made by Novak or someone else who does multi coils. Seems like all it takes is throwing money at prototypes. And you being you, I’d think any number of indie builders would be interested in doing it.
 
So Bart’s participation is mandatory? Can’t think of any reason other than the usual pandemic stuff that you couldn’t get a similar pickup made by Novak or someone else who does multi coils. Seems like all it takes is throwing money at prototypes. And you being you, I’d think any number of indie builders would be interested in doing it.

Well, I hope I don't get in any hot water over this, but here goes.

There is proprietary stuff involving patents involved. The true story is, Bill Bartolini had designed Hi-A Beast's in the '70's for guitars - and Paul used two of them in a 12-string he built for Al DiMeola around 1976. They were really incredible in an electric 12 string, which benefitted from primarily uber clean pick-up sounds. The twin rotary switches made it truly magical and well, revolutionary. While Paul felt that the "Beasts" were far too clean for the majority of his guitars, he really wanted to try them in his basses. Paul worked out a deal making several key changes on the pickup structure with Bill Bartolini and ordered maybe a dozen pick-ups for his basses - modified by Bill to his exact specs. Paul also altered and patented his own design for the 9 position rotary switch he was using - which is key. Well, as the story goes, there was a fire at Bartolini later that year and all of the specs on the exact pickups Paul designed along with Bill - along with many other specs and technical drawings - were lost forever. In the meantime, Paul moved on from the pickups, not realizing how legendary they would later become.

A few years ago, I was in touch directly with Clyde at Barolini about resurrecting a version of this pickup. He was very excited - and would love to try and make some of these, and not just for me - but they are totally clueless as far as the original "recipe" goes with Paul's mods. Wanna know how serious it is? Clyde begged me to take the pickup out of #11 - and take photos of the wiring and the back of the pickup, which doesn't look like anything I have ever seen before. I would basically describe the wiring as perpetual layers of multi-colored spaghetti - and I can't even count the number of coil taps on the back of the pickup.

Of course, I had to clear this photo idea with my good friend Paul and his very stern comment was - "Rick, if you do that I will kill you."

Enuff said...
 
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Well, I hope I don't get in any hot water over this, but here goes.

There is proprietary stuff involving patents involved. The true story is, Bill Bartolini had designed Hi-A Beast's in the '70's for guitars - and Paul used two of them in a 12-string he built for Al DiMeola around 1976. They were really incredible in an electric 12 string, which benefitted from primarily uber clean pick-up sounds. The twin rotary switches made it truly magical and well, revolutionary. While Paul felt that the "Beasts" were far too clean for the majority of his guitars, he really wanted to try them in his basses. Paul worked out a deal making several key changes on the pickup structure with Bill Bartolini and ordered maybe a dozen pick-ups for his basses - modified by Bill to his exact specs. Paul also altered and patented his own design for the 9 position rotary switch he was using - which is key. Well, as the story goes, there was a fire at Bartolini later that year and all of the specs on the exact pickups Paul designed along with Bill - along with many other specs and technical drawings - were lost forever. In the meantime, Paul moved on from the pickups, not realizing how legendary they would later become.

A few years ago, I was in touch directly with Clyde at Barolini about resurrecting a version of this pickup. He was very excited - and would love to try and make some of these, and not just for me - but they are totally clueless as far as the original "recipe" goes with Paul's mods. Wanna know how serious it is? Clyde begged me to take the pickup out of #11 - and take photos of the wiring and the back of the pickup, which doesn't look like anything I have ever seen before. I would basically describe the wiring as perpetual layers of multi-colored spaghetti - and I can't even count the number of coil taps on the back of the pickup.

Of course, I had to clear this photo idea with my good friend Paul and his very stern comment was - "Rick, if you do that I will kill you."

Enuff said...
Whoa! Heavy! I guess we’ll have to wait till they open your time capsule. You’d think Paul want to see them around again after all these years. Sounds like he and Bartolini would have a sweet deal going.
 
All of em. I never modify a bass anymore; I only ever replace it with another one that does whatever I need better than the first one. There are a number of financial and PITA reasons to never mod an instrument, but won't go into that here.

Changing strings to a different type or gauge is the most significant way to change the tone of a bass and it's the cheapest and easiest thing to do.

I've been tempted once or twice to try a different bridge PU in my Jaco, but I've successfully resisted the urge to do that, knowing what I know about the atrocious bang/buck ratio of pickup swaps. But apart from that, I've not felt the urge with any of my basses for many years now.

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Pickup swaps are a losing proposition except when you have a good instrument with sub-standard pickups, and by "sub-standard" I mean pickups that sound overtly cheap, or generic pickups with the extra bar magnet underneath.

Still, I fall off the wagon from time to time.
 
This is the ONE for me. 1996 (or 98?) SR 5, I’ve had it for a week and it’s so comfortable, and the ceramic sounds so good, and the pre amp is so versatile, even down to the finish being a bit darker than other trans red rays I’ve seen, it just feels like me, never want to put it down. Never owned a bass before that made me feel so comfortable selling pretty much all of my other electric basses (except my dads 62 EB-O, but that’s staying in the family).

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