As for the topic. well, no, but i have art least over half the song sof this record in mp3 format. So close enough.
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Do you own Michael Jackson - Thriller?
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As for the topic. well, no, but i have art least over half the song sof this record in mp3 format. So close enough.
Nope! Overly produced, too rich and fattening, slick beyond slick, over the top pop music from a grown-up teeny bopper for teeny boppers. Never could understand his popularity but I can't understand Miley Cyrus' popularity either. Madonna? Lady Gaga? Justin Timberlake? Robin Thicke? Cher? Obviously the problem is me.
I nearly wore out the cassette when I got a Walkman back in the 80s. A few years ago, I found a deluxe version of the CD at Goodwill. It was cheap, so I grabbed it.
The guy calling the most recognised album in history "absolute garbage".
I was in almost exactly the same boat, and felt the same way about Prince as well. Really dig both of them now. Heck I just learned "beat it" a few weeks ago on bass just 'cause. I've really changed my thinking since those days, about music and life in general. I used to have a very dichotomous way of seeing things...I could like Maiden or Prince, but never both? I now like both, as well as country, opera, big band, metal, and Lady Gaga(more so just her and a piano live as opposed to the records she puts out). Good music is just good music, and crap is just crap. And outside of music - I feel like I'm equal parts cowboy, engineer, amateur musician, deer hunter and gay/transgender rights advocate.
I will never understand why you people think that commercial success equals artistic merit. It does not!
Nor do I understand how some people think any type of commercial success equates to a lack of artistic talent...
That is not what I said. Artists can have both commercial and artistic success and many do.
What I'm saying is that Thriller was nothing but a commercial success and it lacks any artistic value. Just because a world full of sheep buy an album does not make it valid art. If that were the case paintings of dogs playing poker would be hangin in the Louvre and McDonald's would be a 5 star restaurant.
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While that is true.....you must have some sort of standard to hold to, to define success.
In any field of career, this album (and mj as a whole) would be defined as a success based on its sales, critical acclaim, peer recognition, longevity, and over all influence on its genre. Because of its relevence at the time, many aspects of the album changed the music industry and even American culture as a whole.
Its not a spice girls album.....where the teeny bop masses propelled the sales and forced the album to relevent- even at the chagrin of the industry and its peers.
It was widely accepted AT THE TIME as the greatest thing since sliced bread and was duly awarded and revered as such. Well written songs perfectly executed by great musicians, sprinkled with stellar guest stars, and promoted and marketed perfectly by an amazing promo team.
While you may wonder why people confuse success with artistic merit, I often wonder why when a piece of art is highly popular, but isn't exactly someones cup of tea, it is dismissed as "garbage" despite overwhelming evidence that it is not. Just as financial success is not always a validation of artistic prowess, neither is the approval of someone who wouldn't recognize talent in that genre anyway due to a pre conceived oppinion that it is ALL garbage.
In short.... just because YOU didn't like it- it doesn't mean that its garbage.
I don't like the Mona Lisa. I don't get it. Its just another above average portrait painting to me..... does that mean that all the hype in the world over it is unwarrented and it is in fact "garbage" - no matter what the rest of the world thinks?
Yes but it wasn't just sales that made the album popular.
When an entire industry gives accolades, the artists' peers revere the work and mimic/ are inspired by it, award after award are showered upon it for many more categories than just sales, and millions, nay Billions of people around the world are a fan of the work and are influenced by its pressence........ at what point do YOU start to think that maybe YOU are the one with the wrong position?
You not liking the work is your oppinion and you are welcomed to it. But to dismiss the work as having no merit and considering it an artistic failure is, well, ignorant.
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind on this- I hated this stuff when it was new, but losing that hate opened up a lot of space for creative thought in my head. Also not equating commercial success w/artistic merit- I just like most of the music. 
Way to slick for me. It seems so over produced. I will take the Stax sound over Motown everytime however there are some great bass lines there.
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