Just to clarify, the current standard (1-2-4 fingering) is of 2 half steps in the hand. The alternative 1-2-3-4 fingering method has 3 half steps in the hand.
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Double Bass Does electric bass fingering work on double bass? No.
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Just to clarify, the current standard (1-2-4 fingering) is of 2 half steps in the hand. The alternative 1-2-3-4 fingering method has 3 half steps in the hand.
So you basically agree, but completely disagree at the same time? How odd.
So a beginning 9-year-old 1-2-3-4 student is pushing the limits of human achievement each time she/he plays play 'twinkle twinkle'?? How can you believe this?
Hang on. I thought you were of the opinion that these techniques do not and will never work? Or is it that you think they don't work as a method, but do as a technique? Where do you draw the line?
Having never transitioned from EB to a 1-2-3-4 DB method, who are you (or I) to judge that it isn't easier to keep the same patterns? My argument is that being able to keep the same patterns (not technique) in the LH is, theoretically, a positive thing. Why would it not be?? What is your theoretical argument against this?
Absolutely. It is like when kids start Olympic training young. It is an advanced method, and only extremely advanced players teach it.
They work for some people, they are just unrelated to electric bass.
As long as the thread is open here are two things you (Mr. "Vandelay") will not get from me:
* The last post
* A concession
So, keep it coming or find a stoping point and move on.
Dealing with 6-9" difference in scale length and larger fingerboard width make it unlikely for most people to keep the same patterns.
Can't someone please take this thread into disrespectful territory so it'll be closed. Please! Please!
So, in your mind, 'Twinkle twinkle' by a nine year old, who plays a note using her third finger, is pushing the limits of human possibilities, and is equivalent to olympic training?!?! I am genuinely astonished, and find it somewhat hilarious, that you believe that.
I'd hope that only extremely advanced players would teach, period. Maybe you have other ideas?
And finally we get to talk about the elephant in the room. You admit that you are not here to discuss the topic, you are here to have 'the last post' and never 'concede'. Congratulations. A fine example to set for younger players, of how to behave, online, or in life: keep a closed mind, and no matter what anyone says, never concede that your opinions may be wrong, or misinformed. Oh, and make sure you have the last word too!
You may now go ahead and have your 'last post', I won't leave any more comments here, this is clearly not a discussion anymore. I really hope the thread can still go on, and get back on topic, because it's a really interesting topic. That is, discussing if EB fingerings can work on DB or not.
Good luck, Damon.
Art Vandelay said:
Anything can work somewhere some of the time.
There are exceptions that, depending on how you like to look at the world, prove or disprove every rule.
Tempus Fugit.
Caveat Emptor.
Credo In Unum Deum.
Od Avenu Chai.
Ars Longa Vita Brevis.
May We All Live Long And Prosper!
Bass.
-S-
Competent professionals teach. There is a lot of headroom between competent and Dalla Torre or Hans Roelofsen - only people at that level are teaching 1-2-3-4 with any success. So, yes: a nine year old student of theirs playing anything would be similar to a kid starting Olympic training.
To clarify, that only pertains to you. Regardless of what you say, my reading is that you are here to have a pi**ing match and split hairs.
I was dumb enough to enter into it and I am here to the end.
You are also presenting far-fetched and unrealistic ideas that would create false hopes and cloud the issue.
[QUOTE="damonsmith"
here to have a pi**ing match and split hairs
I reckon this is the best fruitcake thread on TB. 124 worked for me for 30 yeas and while Arts input was interesting for a while, it means nothing to me, its a urinating contest all can see.
here to have a pi**ing match and split hairs
I reckon this is the best fruitcake thread on TB. 124 worked for me for 30 yeas and while Arts input was interesting for a while, it means nothing to me, its a urinating contest all can see.
"Sufferin' succotash"................................................................If that's how you feel then I reckon you better wash the fruit before you put it in your stash .......................Sylvester.
{sombody gib me anoythr drink}
And if you and the guys come out to LA I will surely buy all a round. Charlie O's is good hang for some jazz and good times. Art included! Cheers!
ChuckCorbisiero said:
That could potentially turn into the biggest and best bender of all time. We can discuss, demonstrate and solve the unsolvable fingering issues. Fear no beer is my motto
The only discussion and demonstration will pertain to my Doctor and his wife Ginger, bub.That could potentially turn into the biggest and best bender of all time. We can discuss, demonstrate and solve the unsolvable fingering issues. Fear no beer is my motto
Yes, of course but arbitrio quam uis non sinit esse meo.
Wait a minute. Od Avinu Chai? How did that get in there?
