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Douglas Stingray copy

#61
82Daion said:
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You do a whole-step bend at the 12th how often?

If you do this commonly in performance, then I can see how it might be an issue, but if you're just doing it for argument's sake, then that's a pretty sketchy basis on which to say that polepiece alignment is an issue.

It's not the same bass, but the amount of movement required to attempt a whole-step bend popped the G-string out of the saddle on my Alembic, and I didn't even get the full bend, so I'm not sure how possible it is on other basses, but it's certainly difficult.
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Whole step bends? Not that often. However, I am playing along with Steve Morse's Cruise Missile right now, and -- at least the way I learned it -- that requires me to bend a whole step at the 17th fret G-string. Hey I can live with the volume drop, I guess :) I only really mentioned this because you said that "no amount of bending (within [your] capabilities) could take [a string] out of the magnetic field enough to cause signal loss." Actually a half step anywhere high on the neck, g-string, causes a little volume drop for me. Again I am sitting here right now noodling with my Ray 4. YMMV.


edit: awaiting smart Dave LaRue comment regarding Steve Morse tunes, and EB basses... :)
 
#62
king_biscuit said:
Whole step bends? Not that often. However, I am playing along with Steve Morse's Cruise Missile right now, and -- at least the way I learned it -- that requires me to bend a whole step at the 17th fret G-string. Hey I can live with the volume drop, I guess :) I only really mentioned this because you said that "no amount of bending (within [your] capabilities) could take [a string] out of the magnetic field enough to cause signal loss." Actually a half step anywhere high on the neck, g-string, causes a little volume drop for me. Again I am sitting here right now noodling with my Ray 4. YMMV.


edit: awaiting smart Dave LaRue comment regarding Steve Morse tunes, and EB basses... :)
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I'll take your word for it-given the amount of movement involved, I can see how it might happen. Since none of my basses have an MM pickup, I can't say for sure if this would happen for me, and it didn't happen when I owned a Bongo, but that's a different matter entirely, since we're discussing Stingrays.

YMMV, etc.

:)
 
#63
davec said:
Does that make me childish or am I simply exercising my choice?
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No it doesn't make you childish. But you are not exercising your choice. You are exercising someone else's choice. Making a firm decision based on someone else's experience alone is not a good way to do things. It's one thing to use it as a starting point, but you should make up your own mind in the end.

Let me give you an example. I used to be on the "I think the EBMM Bongo is ugly bandwagon." I used to think they were hideously ugly and had plenty of support here for that idea. Then I went out and actually played one. I fell in love with it's tone, feel and playability. I no longer think they are ugly. In fact, I like that there aren't any other basses out there quite like them. I now own three of them and that's all I play.

I could have gone along with everyone else and had someone else's opinion as my own. But I decided to think for myself.
 
#66
Jack, you may or may not be able to answer this question, but does EB buy a sample of these copies that repeatedly come out? I would if I were them if nothing else out of curiosity, but also for any potential days in court. A hall of shame with copies at the factory would be pretty funny too.
 
#74
DeanT said:
No it doesn't make you childish. But you are not exercising your choice. You are exercising someone else's choice. Making a firm decision based on someone else's experience alone is not a good way to do things. It's one thing to use it as a starting point, but you should make up your own mind in the end.

Let me give you an example. I used to be on the "I think the EBMM Bongo is ugly bandwagon." I used to think they were hideously ugly and had plenty of support here for that idea. Then I went out and actually played one. I fell in love with it's tone, feel and playability. I no longer think they are ugly. In fact, I like that there aren't any other basses out there quite like them. I now own three of them and that's all I play.

I could have gone along with everyone else and had someone else's opinion as my own. But I decided to think for myself.
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I love this post and it's one of the hardest things to get through peoples heads; there is room for personal choice and there's no need to insult others over their unwillingness to give up that freedom of choice.

That last line is great. :)
 
#77
bovinehost said:
Nope, can't be me. I would never subscribe to the idea that everything besides EBMM sucks. What kind of idiot would think one brand of bass fits everyone? I've been a rather big proponent of choice, actually.

And from here (dining room), I can see an F-bass, a Jazz bass, a Telecaster and a Strat, none of which were technically made by Ernie Ball.

But whoever he's talking about sounds like someone I'd like to know!
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Bovine: I've been on the EB forum and you own like 7 or more EB basses. And here u are talking about Fbasses, Jazz basses. Just How many basses do you own, and finally, what do you do for a living are u in the Texas Oil Business? I can barely afford my brand new SR5 HH bass payments as it is.
 
#78
OK, I know Kurt reads these forums but perhaps he needs/wants to be mum on this subject. What I've discovered, however, is that the pup in this thing appears to be identical to the GFS alnico I just purchased. I went to perform the swap and am unable to find any difference between the two. I performed the swap just in case I'm wrong, but I think not. Kurt, is this the case?

A quick run on the multimeter shows that they're identical as well. If this thing really has the GFS alnico then it's an even more amazing item for $89.

On a side note, after the swap I hooked this bass up to my main rig and discovered much of the tone I'd been missing previosuly on my practice amp. I eagerly await a new set of Ken Smith Bass Burners and the cloned Stingray preamp to extract that last ~20% of the tone I really desire.
 
#79
optikhog said:
OK, I know Kurt reads these forums but perhaps he needs/wants to be mum on this subject. What I've discovered, however, is that the pup in this thing appears to be identical to the GFS alnico I just purchased. I went to perform the swap and am unable to find any difference between the two. I performed the swap just in case I'm wrong, but I think not. Kurt, is this the case?

A quick run on the multimeter shows that they're identical as well. If this thing really has the GFS alnico then it's an even more amazing item for $89.

On a side note, after the swap I hooked this bass up to my main rig and discovered much of the tone I'd been missing previosuly on my practice amp. I eagerly await a new set of Ken Smith Bass Burners and the cloned Stingray preamp to extract that last ~20% of the tone I really desire.
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You may be right, the pup seems to me to have a heck of a lot more grunt than I expected, when I changed the strings I got a big change it tonal quality! It has a pretty good sound for the money, it sounds slightly over driven, a nice punchy growl unlike any of my other Basses, I'm very pleased with it!:bassist:
 
#80
Mo' Bass 00 said:
You may be right, the pup seems to me to have a heck of a lot more grunt than I expected, when I changed the strings I got a big change it tonal quality! It has a pretty good sound for the money, it sounds slightly over driven, a nice punchy growl unlike any of my other Basses, I'm very pleased with it!:bassist:
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Yah, the low-end balls on this thing was what my little combo amp was not revealing to me and the part that I really love/wanted.

I wanted to clarify what the tone knob is doing - it sounds to me like it's increasing/decreasing mids. Full countrclockwise gets relatively close to my old P-bass. Is it doing the same for others?
 

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