Ebay Restricted item?

[Jeff Scott]

I agree. At some point I thought it was about the Rickenbacker. I happen to know that none of the American shops sell them to Europe because Rickenbacker has forbidden it.

Really? Rickenbacker has an agreement with their overseas distributors to handle the countries they oversee. If you have a problem not getting something call your distributor.

When is this misinformation ever going to stop?

I can see how they may want to confiscate illegal items ... but this was just a freaking bass guitar

Plus, there was no illegal products on it, too.

 

[Ric5]

Really? Rickenbacker has an agreement with their overseas distributors to handle the countries they oversee. If you have a problem not getting something call your distributor.

When is this misinformation ever going to stop?

Plus, there was no illegal products on it, too.

maybe the low B string is illegal in the UK?

 

[Jeff Scott]

maybe the low B string is illegal in the UK?

What famous Brit bassist used a B string? No one famous from the glory years (1960s-1970s) did, so that makes perfect sense that it would be illegal in the UK. Note the usual "Jaco never needed a B string........." argument implied here. .

 

[Teijo K.]

Really? Rickenbacker has an agreement with their overseas distributors to handle the countries they oversee. If you have a problem not getting something call your distributor.

When is this misinformation ever going stop.

I actually tried to buy Rics from U.S. no shipping to Finland. I sent emails to some shops in Europe that kind a had Rics for sale at a decent price but were out of stock. Answer was that it could take months or it could take years to get one. In Finland there is no new Rickenbacker basses in any of the shops. Not a single one. And also there is only one used, an 8 string.

 

[Michael Schreiber]

When is this misinformation ever going to stop?

Hm... I don't see a contradiction between your and @Teijo K. 's post.
Isn't it up to Rickenbacker to authorize export to particular markets/countries?
If so, then effectively they're forbidding others to export these basses, isn't it?
I'm not implying that'd be bad or good - just that's the supplier's freedom of choice, as far as I understand.
But I'm bad at economics, so I may have completely misunderstood it.

I understood Teijo's post that way, that customs or the parcel service, or whoever, might have thought that there'd be a new Rickenbacker sent from a US company to overseas which may violate an exclusive distribution - and therefor prevented the shipping. Don't know if such things really happen, and of course, I wouldn't imply Rickenbacker is spying on shippings in a STASI-manner ^^

 

[Michael Schreiber]

And also there is only one used, an 8 string.

You lucky ones!!!

 

[Ric5]

What if the bass being shipped was a rare 4002, or 60s 4001, or some other rare beast???

 

[Jeff Scott]

I actually tried to buy Rics from U.S. no shipping to Finland. I sent emails to some shops in Europe that kind a had Rics for sale at a decent price but were out of stock. Answer was that it could take months or it could take years to get one. In Finland there is no new Rickenbacker basses in any of the shops. Not a single one. And also there is only one used, an 8 string.

Talk to Kimi, maybe he can help.

Hm... I don't see a contradiction between your and @Teijo K. 's post.
Isn't it up to Rickenbacker to authorize export to particular markets/countries?
If so, then effectively they're forbidding others to export these basses, isn't it?...

RIC's overseas distributors control their own territories, included who gets what and warranty service. RIC does not allow NA dealers/distributors from selling outside of their own territory to prevent competition between the various worldwide distributors, a very common practice, really.

 

[Teijo K.]

Talk to Kimi, maybe he can help.

RIC's overseas distributors control their own territories, included who gets what and warranty service. RIC does not allow NA dealers/distributors from selling outside of their own territory to prevent competition between the various worldwide distributors, a very common practice, really.

That's what I said.

Although a lot of other basses are available from U.S. to Finland. I am just not interested in them.

I bought a used one from Canada. We just need to decide shipping details but I should get it in a month or so.

 

[Jeff Scott]

...I bought a used one from Canada...

The one Kimi had with him in Montreal earlier this year?

 

[Teijo K.]

The one Kimi had with him in Montreal earlier this year?

Honestly I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[StayLow]

Sorry to re-inject the "F" word into a conjecture fest, but "fact" is that per my call to eBay detailed previously in the thread eBay does NOT restrict shipping based on manufacturer/brand.

Brands protect their own distributers and pricing by prohibiting distribution to territories covered by a different distributor. Most, perhaps all, major brands do this. Mesa, Fender, etc. etc. etc. etc.

eBay doesn't do it for them, and used or modified items don't apply in any case.

Another fact: a simple call takes less time than typing up a bunch of misleading make-believe.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Honestly I have no idea what you are talking about.

Really? You don't know who Kimi is?
kimi raikkonen

 

[Michael Schreiber]

Really? You don't know who Kimi is?
kimi raikkonen

 

[Teijo K.]

Really? You don't know who Kimi is?
kimi raikkonen

I didn't know he played bass.

 

[Michael Schreiber]

I wonder if Kimi's team would be able to sell his car via ebay - depends on the amount of rosewood in the steering wheel, I guess

 

[Jeff Scott]

I wonder if Kimi's team would be able to sell his car via ebay - depends on the amount of rosewood in the steering wheel, I guess

Perhaps not the steering computer () but maybe the skid plate under car is rosewood?

I don't see any restricted materials on this:

 

[Michael Schreiber]

Perhaps not the steering computer () but maybe the skid plate under car is rosewood?

I don't see any restricted materials on this:

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Yeah, seems I got carried away with my old-school imaginations of car racing - Geeze, that steering... thing probably can simulate nuke detonations and doing the weather forecast while calculating all parameters for the car

 

[mikeswals]

What if the bass being shipped was a rare 4002, or 60s 4001, or some other rare beast???

If you had dealt directly with FedEx, UPS, or the even the Postal Service you would have been fine.

This restriction has happened before with eBay's chosen shipping forwarder, it didn't matter what brand of bass, and this has happened before well before CITES' new regulations. it's been posted a couple times here on TB.
It is not a Ric thing, a shipping company could care less of Ric products.
So, it's an issue between eBay's shipper for some reason not wanting to export a wood instrument. If they're concerned over the material legality of the shipment, it's easier for them to refuse to do it than to tie up a full container of cargo and loose payout money if it sits on a dock missing all deadlines.

The first time I heard about ebay having an int'l shipping service made me wonder why would I get another party involved. You turn over the decision to ebay to process this.
And nearly immediately heard of a restriction by someone here on TB (again it was before CITES changes), firmed up my suspicion that it is a bad idea.
If I'm selling basses on ebay that I'm willing to sell int'l, then I state so in my ad that I will only ship by FedEx or Postal will not use ebay ship forwarding services..
Likewise, if I'm not willing to deal with int'l buyers, then I state in my ad NO INT'L purchases, which you can cancel the sale if an int'l buyer still hits the buy it now.

 

[Jeff Scott]

... it's been posted a couple times here on TB...

I remember a long thread about shipping a Stingray, with similar issues.

Yeah, seems I got carried away with my old-school imaginations of car racing - Geeze, that steering... thing probably can simulate nuke detonations and doing the weather forecast while calculating all parameters for the car

Nah, the weather forecasting is done here:

These guys need to be paid for doing something!