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Ebola Comes To USA
- Thread starter skychief
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I don't disagree about the suits. What is wrong with using the masks and hoods? We are talking about surplus equipment, not purchasing new.
The masks and hoods on NBC suits are expensive and not disposable. Once contaminated, they have to be decontaminated before reusing. That is an area where transfer of the virus could occur, if the decontamination process is not completed properly. Hazmat suits have a built-in hood and are disposable and meant for single use. The masks are likewise disposable and cheap enough for single use. The less the user handles these suits after they are used, the safer the user is.
The military has downsized, even after I retired, by a couple hundred thousand, and by about that much before I retired. At this point, with hospitals citing funds shortage for the protective gear, using the mask/hood combination even if it is a one time use thing will help tide them over this crisis(?). Decontamination isn't a big problem anyway, all you need is a bucket of bleach solution that you slip the mask into after each use. Sure you'll have the change the filters before the next use but, is an economical short term solution.
I'm soliciting opinions on this one.
A self described hobbyist epidemologist on my FB says that Ebola could never become endemic here, simply for the fact that it kills too efficiently and quickly for it to spread in any real meaningful fashion.
Thoughts?
A self described hobbyist epidemologist on my FB says that Ebola could never become endemic here, simply for the fact that it kills too efficiently and quickly for it to spread in any real meaningful fashion.
Thoughts?
This is a simple decon procedure that is employed by the West African health workers that is greatly overlooked, imo.
A chlorine bleach bath to neutralize residual Ebola contaminants.
Im sure the (Ebola related) death toll would be much higher if this practice was not used.
CDC... are you taking notes?
Being afraid makes some people feel more alive I guess.
Keep that shining sword of truth aloft while cowering in front of your screens.
Keep that shining sword of truth aloft while cowering in front of your screens.
Thats what Puppet Frieden said weeks ago.
They've (the CDC) been wrong on every count.
I'll take that challenge.
OK...this is unbelievable and really makes one loss faith in the CDC. This story just broke. The CDC gave the green light to latest nurse victim, Amber Vinson, to fly on a commercial airline with a known fever. Prior to boarding a return flight from Cleavland to Dallas, Amber called the CDC and reported she had a fever of 99.5F and wanted permision to board the airliner. Someone at the CDC said it was not a problem and it was ok to board the commercial flight. After reaching Dallas, and only a few hours later, she was in the ER with Ebola. The incompetence of the CDC is beyond belief and makes my blood boil! Here is a link to full story.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/15/amber-vinson-cdc-ebola_n_5993486.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/15/amber-vinson-cdc-ebola_n_5993486.html
Low grade fever is the beginning point of Ebola. In order to infect other people, the nurse would have to be ill to the point of vomiting, spitting up blood, or having diarrhea, and people would have to come into contact with those fluids. The latter symptoms are when Ebola is contagious and pose a danger to others.
It might be advisable for health care workers that treat Ebola patients to remain under observation (temperature checks and verbal communication to check for the well being of the healthcare worker) by the hospital where they work for 21 days after the last date of contact with the patient.
The primary reservoir for the virus is thought to be primates and fruit bats (neither of which exist in great numbers in the USA). Lack of a traditional Ebola reservoir/vector would be one way to limit the spread. Most Americans do not rely on family members to provide medical care for severe illness, but use medical facilities to seek care. People in the affected West African nations are not so fortunate, and many family members contract Ebola when providing care for a sickened family member, especially at the end stages of the disease and after the individual dies. (Good reason to support universal health care access in the USA). Also, Many families in the afflicted countries bury family members on their own rather than with a funeral parlor. Medical examiners are not prevalent there either. This leads to additional infections and spread of the disease caused by handling the deceased and disposing infected clothing and bedding in public trash piles or dumping them on the street. All the things mentioned are done differently in the USA for the most part and is part of the overall public health function provided by local, State and Federal agencies. (Another reason not to short change public agencies.) As seen by the number of cases and survivors in the USA, the mortality rate is lessened when adequate and prompt care is given. Mr. Duncan was not given adequate nor prompt care, which probably played a roll in his demise. What actually helps prevent Ebola from becoming a major epidemic in the USA, from a biological standpoint, is it's mode of transmission and the way the virus interacts with the human host (location in the cells and organs of the body compared to the more highly contagious influenza virus.)
My background is BA, biology; MS, microbiology; MPH, public health, and three years as a PhD student studying and doing research in molecular biosciences and bioengineering, conducting cell biology research.
Agreed. In this case she was being monitored by the CDC because she was considered to be at risk. That is why she called them to get permission to board the aircraft. Also, what would have happened if she started vomiting mid flight. Tonight, the head of the CDC stated at a press conference that she had no business being on a commercial flight and was not sure why she was given the green light to fly by his agency. Basically, the left hand of the CDC does not know what the right hand is doing or saying. I will say it again, total incompetence and loss of public faith and confidence.
Puppet Frieden has been a miserable failure as head of the CDC,. Lies, failures, misleading, untruths, poor judgement, et, al,,
He needs to step aside and allow a more worthy candidate to fill the position, imo.
He needs to step aside and allow a more worthy candidate to fill the position, imo.
The Canadians say they have a vaccine for Ebola now;
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And if you allow me:
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And if you allow me:
Hi
Perhaps you misunderstood my point...
It seems as if all the guidelines are proving to be inefficient.
This is of great concern to me and many other people who work in hospitals on the frontline.
I do not appreciate your seemingly snarky reply and I'm willing to bet that under NO circumstances would you do what I may have to do if we get a case and aren't provided proper protective gear.
Tell me that you'd put your life on the line and risk infecting yourself, friends and family. I know I won't.
Period.
Yes, the CDC is monitoring all internet bulletin boards for expert opinions on how to contain and treat ebola. You wouldn't believe what they've learned from 4Chan.
It's kind of like doing your research at The Onion.
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