EBS Classic 500 geography lesson

[2tonic]

This all pales in comparison to the efforts expounded by the Japanese circa '65~'80. This was an era when products from Japan were considered to be of lesser quality than U.S. made electronics.

They renamed a city that contained many electronic/tech manufacturers...............
Get ready for it................

USA.

Yep, pronounced Oooosa, all products from this area proudly bore a label stating "Made in USA"!
By the time the Federal Trade Commission caught on and reacted, (taking decades), Japanese origin was no longer looked down upon, and the moniker was unceremoniously dumped.
Those were hoary times.

 

[Outbush]

just in case you dont want to google it
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has defined the term "free range" only for chickens, not for [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] or for other livestock, such as cattle.


For chickens to be free range, the birds must be "allowed access to the outside," according to the USDA. In practice, this can mean the chickens live most of their lives outdoors, retreating to their coop only when weather or other factors require them to do so, or it can mean the chickens spend all their time in cramped, indoor pens that have a small door opened to the outside for just a few minutes each day.


Obviously, there's a huge difference between these two scenarios in terms of organic farming and humanely raised poultry, but either scenario meets the USDA definition.


Because the USDA rules for free-range products don't apply to other animals, or even to eggs, the free-range label on those goods is legally meaningless—producers can use the label in any way they want. Again, it can mean the animals spent most of their lives in wide, outdoor spaces, or it can mean they occasionally got a glimpse of the sun through a small door, but never went outside themselves.

Technically, their scientific name is Chooks. One of the great recyclers, feed them scraps they give you eggs! What could be better? Let them run around the coup they’re free range and give you free range eggs. Years ago everyone had chooks and I think they’re making a resurgence.

 

[cnltb]

Back panel of EBS Classic 500 has "Designed and manufactured entirely in Sweden... " written above the speaker outputs on the back panel yet with" Made in China" at bottom right next to Line Out above the serial number. Do they know where their amps are made?
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Have you asked them to clarify this?
I find it really confusing and would have written to them.

 

[BBQV]

There was a match stick factory named Sweden somewhere in Asia in the early 1900's. That way they could write "Made in Sweden" on the boxes...

 

[Tim Skaggs]

The implication is that the amp is not "outsourced".

That is to say, they want you to know that this isn't some random amp built in china with an EBS label slapped on.

It's an entirely EBS designed amp, built to their specification in China

Exactly

 

[DirtDog]

Have you asked them to clarify this?
I find it really confusing and would have written to them.

Exactly! How are us punters supposed to understand the geopolitical economy of bass amplifier manufacture just from just a few words printed on the back of the product. The nerve!

 

[MotorCityMinion]

"just in case you dont want to google it
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has defined the term "free range" only for chickens, not for [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] or for other livestock, such as cattle. For chickens to be free range, the birds must be "allowed access to the outside," according to the USDA. In practice, this can mean the chickens live most of their lives outdoors, retreating to their coop only when weather or other factors require them to do so, or it can mean the chickens spend all their time in cramped, indoor pens that have a small door opened to the outside for just a few minutes each day. Obviously, there's a huge difference between these two scenarios in terms of organic farming and humanely raised poultry, but either scenario meets the USDA definition. Because the USDA rules for free-range products don't apply to other animals, or even to eggs, the free-range label on those goods is legally meaningless—producers can use the label in any way they want. Again, it can mean the animals spent most of their lives in wide, outdoor spaces, or it can mean they occasionally got a glimpse of the sun through a small door, but never went outside themselves."

JUST GREAT. With everything else that is going on in 2020, now I have to worry about free range chickens..... being discussed in a Bass forum no less. The madness. Anybody else getting kind of hungry?

 

[Bassdirty]

Note that it doesn’t say manufactured by EBS in Sweden. It reads as if “EBS Sweden” is the name of the company.

Exactly,

Made entirely at the EBS Sweden plant...in China.
Marketing 101.


T$

 

[Sid Fang]

Regardless of label parsing, EBS has manufactured the rest of their "Classic" line in China since its introduction, so I'd rather assumed that the Classic 500 was built by a Chinese contract manufacturer. I believe this is also true of the Reidmar class D heads and Session combos. The Proline and Neoline cabs and their high-end heads (HD3x0, TD6c0, Fafner, T90, 802) have historically been built in Sweden.

 

[Unmost]

This all pales in comparison to the efforts expounded by the Japanese circa '65~'80. This was an era when products from Japan were considered to be of lesser quality than U.S. made electronics.

They renamed a city that contained many electronic/tech manufacturers...............
Get ready for it................

USA.

Yep, pronounced Oooosa, all products from this area proudly bore a label stating "Made in USA"!
By the time the Federal Trade Commission caught on and reacted, (taking decades), Japanese origin was no longer looked down upon, and the moniker was unceremoniously dumped.
Those were hoary times.

Hi! This story tingled my BS sense so I checked. It's a myth.

 

[micguy]

So, what we've learned so far, is that an amp made in China in a room with a view through a window of a picture of Sweden is a free range, Swedish amp. Is that right?

 

[Jeff Scott]

Anybody else getting kind of hungry?

I just finished eating a couple of hard-boiled eggs, so, no, not me.

However, I did have to chase the raw eggs around the kitchen for a while as they did not want to get dunked into a pot of boiling water.

 

[WhiteBird]

I've given up on EBS. Anybody know, for sure, where the Gallien Krueger 1001 RB-II is made?

 

[Sid Fang]

I've given up on EBS. Anybody know, for sure, where the Gallien Krueger 1001 RB-II is made?

In the past.

 

[Geri O]

I’m sure there’s there some redeeming social factor involved with investigating the ins and outs of where a product is made.

The end.

 

[Rockbobmel]

Point taken Funk With Me. Those sneaky Swedes will keep up Brits up to speed on our own language. They had me fooled for a minute though. Rock on!

They all kinda do the same wording.

 

[StatesideRambler]

"just in case you dont want to google it
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) has defined the term ...

Well, that same Department defined “pizza” and according to them if it doesn’t have tomato sauce you can’t call it pizza and sell it in the grocery store.

 

[Heavy Blue]

you should look up the fda guidelines on what a farmer has to to to label their chickens as "free range". its laughable. Same thing with "organic".

Maybe in the US but up here (Canada) the organic farmer I knew told me about the mountain of paperwork and a ton of hoops he had to jump through every year to get and stay certified organic here.

This all pales in comparison to the efforts expounded by the Japanese circa '65~'80. This was an era when products from Japan were considered to be of lesser quality than U.S. made electronics.

They renamed a city that contained many electronic/tech manufacturers...............
Get ready for it................

USA.

Yep, pronounced Oooosa, all products from this area proudly bore a label stating "Made in USA"!
By the time the Federal Trade Commission caught on and reacted, (taking decades), Japanese origin was no longer looked down upon, and the moniker was unceremoniously dumped.
Those were hoary times.

I’ve been hearing variants of this story since childhood when I believe I first heard it from my American raised grandmother. The one I first heard was that back in the 1950’s or 60’s, the Japanese renamed one of their little islands USA, built factories on it, and then labelled “Made in USA” on products manufactured on said island.

Even way back then it always sounded a little dodgy to me along the lines of the nationalistic pandering that certain political groups traditionally like to indulge themselves with to go after perceived foreign adversaries.

I’d like to know if this was a real thing or not because tbh it sounds a little fantastic. I wonder if it’s on snopes?

 

[Sid Fang]

...I wonder if it’s on snopes?

It is, but it's inconclusive.
Was a Town in Japan Renamed 'Usa' So Its Products Could Be Labeled 'Made in USA'?

 

[bluesmanbruce]

t's absolutely hilarious. An 'expert' bought a piece of Renaissance antique porcelain in Europe. He showed it off to everyone, raving about its exquisite craftsmanship. A group of experts gathered around, engaging in grand talk, nodding their heads in deep appreciation. But then, a little child piped up: 'Why does it say "Microwave Safe" on the bottom?