Jaldegren said:
Very interesting. But the only problem is that the few YT video's out there are slapping... Which for my case gives no measure of how the amp will sound for my use.
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EBS launching new micro amp - Reidmar
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Very interesting. But the only problem is that the few YT video's out there are slapping... Which for my case gives no measure of how the amp will sound for my use.
The TC power management is VERY sophisticated, and very impressive, and comes from their years and years of compression and power management experience in the effect, front of house, and recording categories. Pretty cool.
EBS has always been on the low side of the wattage continuum with their heads. They sound great (very modern, sizzly... Marcus Miller used a TD650 for a while, and Tal Wilkendfeld still does, as far as I know).
I had both an HD350 and TD650 for a while. Again, nice... modern, a bit scooped inherently, with an extreme upper treble extension. The HD350 was an 'honest' 350 watts and the TD650 was a bit less honest 440 watts (it would only hit its 'named power' at 2ohms.
The lightweight head seems to be a very nice unit (from what I saw and heard at NAMM), and is more of a 'low cost' part of the line (very low price!) that happens to be relatively light and small. So, IMO this head seems like a lower powered, lower cost, smaller and lighter 'HD350' (since the front end is almost identical). Seems like a nice product, and might go far in introducing this nice gear to the more mainstream market.
The 'limiting design' of these amps is starting to, more and more, describe the absolute performance of these units better than the old 'RMS power rating', and it seems like they have a more sophisticated power management system in this new unit versus their previous models. Nice! Probably does sound a bit louder than what you would think given the wattage rating, since it is all about what the amp does when it hits its rails when pushed.
KJung said:
Thanks for the summery on the EBS tone type. Yes the Reidmar is cheap specially for us in Norway and Sweden. While I've not seen it I real life, from the web it seem to be nicely constructed, and seem to have some good measure of quality.
I'm familiar with the tone Tal and Marcus, it is a nice tone, but totally not what I'm after. Btw, I've heard Dave Marks live at the London bass show, he used a Fafner or a TD650. His tone was very nice, if it was due to his playing (he plays really great) or his MM Stingray, I do not know..
From things I've tried I like a lot the more dirty and wooly type of tone from an Ampeg, Orange and my sansamps. I also like the GK tone but it is a bit too sterile for my part, or may I say a bit less organic.
So on one point, the Reidmar for me will be nice from a somewhat patriotic aspect as it is a Scandinavian amp, but if it is not really my tone and will not work nice with my sansamp, well, can't have that.
So, Ken, do me a favor, review the Reidamar, as you do great reviews!
As said, please don't slap the thing.... Slapping videos are easy to find. Something like Smoke on the water with a Rick or a P bass and a pick will tell me if the Reidmar is for me 
Thanks for the summery on the EBS tone type. Yes the Reidmar is cheap specially for us in Norway and Sweden. While I've not seen it I real life, from the web it seem to be nicely constructed, and seem to have some good measure of quality.
I'm familiar with the tone Tal and Marcus, it is a nice tone, but totally not what I'm after. Btw, I've heard Dave Marks live at the London bass show, he used a Fafner or a TD650. His tone was very nice, if it was due to his playing (he plays really great) or his MM Stingray, I do not know..
From things I've tried I like a lot the more dirty and wooly type of tone from an Ampeg, Orange and my sansamps. I also like the GK tone but it is a bit too sterile for my part, or may I say a bit less organic.
So on one point, the Reidmar for me will be nice from a somewhat patriotic aspect as it is a Scandinavian amp, but if it is not really my tone and will not work nice with my sansamp, well, can't have that.
So, Ken, do me a favor, review the Reidamar, as you do great reviews!
I'm probably not the one to do a demo for a grindy rock tone
FYI, the Fafner is kind of a different thing, and to my ear, is EBS's 'rock' head. That would definitely get you to where you want to go.
The new Fafner II does not lack in power, very impressive head IMO, with headroom almost like the DB751. Agree with KJung about the 650, that box sounds just thin.
Played two minutes with the Reidmar in the shop, paired with a EBS Proline 410, and this thing is loud!! Things started to fall down from the walls, hehe. I brought one home for a test-drive, will post my thoughts later.
Played two minutes with the Reidmar in the shop, paired with a EBS Proline 410, and this thing is loud!! Things started to fall down from the walls, hehe. I brought one home for a test-drive, will post my thoughts later.
Per the above, this is basically correct, although seems like an 'estimate' since the 8ohm wattage of a solid state amp is typically about 60% to 65% of the 4ohm wattage.
Wth solid state amps, the wattage output increases as the nominal impedance of the cabinets decreases, up to the safe operating minumum of the amp (usually 4ohms, but sometimes 2.67 or 2 ohm with some units).
The power increase is non-linear, and often, 2ohm safe amps limit the power output of an amp running below 4ohms to control for heat, increased distortion levels, etc.
For example, the EBS HD350 is 2ohm safe, but puts out the same wattage at 4ohms and 2ohms.
I took the Reidmar to my rehersal-space today, hooked it up with my Genz Benz Uber410 4ohm cab, and used my Roscoe LG3005 and a -11 Fender Jazz USA.
First setting was gain at noon, eq flat, volume at 9 o`clock. The amp sounds a bit midfocused, with sweet highs and tight lowend. Very punchy articulate and quick, very loud chest-thumping sound. Handles B-string well, but I can feel the limiter kicking in when I thumb the B-string on my Roscoe, witch has a prominent B.
Dialing in a bit compressor controls the B very nice, and also taes the highs a bit, very nice compressor!
Backing off a little at 600khz, adding just a hair off bass, and I have a very good sound with my Roscoe.
Plugging in the jazz gave me a instant super slap-sound, and made me dig out some old Marcus-licks I haven`t used for years.
The quick and punchy sound of this amp makes fingerstyle playing easy, the notes jumps out of the cab and the amp responds very well to dynamic changes.
My Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 obvious have more power, a more polished midrange and handles a bit more low-end, but I must say that the Reidmar is a very fun amp to play. Volumvise it`s as loud as my previous MarkBass Little Mark II and F500, hones 250 watts there!
The Reidmar seems to be incredible value for the money, the price here in Norway is a little over half the price og the LM III!
IMO this amp sound better with the jazzbass than my Roscoe, and I guess being midfocused, it will match 12" cabs very well also.
Based on this little test, I think could have used this amp on 90% of my gigs, both volume and tonevise. Beeing so punchy I guess it will cut through very well on stage.
First setting was gain at noon, eq flat, volume at 9 o`clock. The amp sounds a bit midfocused, with sweet highs and tight lowend. Very punchy articulate and quick, very loud chest-thumping sound. Handles B-string well, but I can feel the limiter kicking in when I thumb the B-string on my Roscoe, witch has a prominent B.
Dialing in a bit compressor controls the B very nice, and also taes the highs a bit, very nice compressor!
Backing off a little at 600khz, adding just a hair off bass, and I have a very good sound with my Roscoe.
Plugging in the jazz gave me a instant super slap-sound, and made me dig out some old Marcus-licks I haven`t used for years.
The quick and punchy sound of this amp makes fingerstyle playing easy, the notes jumps out of the cab and the amp responds very well to dynamic changes.
My Genz Benz Shuttle 9.0 obvious have more power, a more polished midrange and handles a bit more low-end, but I must say that the Reidmar is a very fun amp to play. Volumvise it`s as loud as my previous MarkBass Little Mark II and F500, hones 250 watts there!
The Reidmar seems to be incredible value for the money, the price here in Norway is a little over half the price og the LM III!
IMO this amp sound better with the jazzbass than my Roscoe, and I guess being midfocused, it will match 12" cabs very well also.
Based on this little test, I think could have used this amp on 90% of my gigs, both volume and tonevise. Beeing so punchy I guess it will cut through very well on stage.
Sounds like a nice head, and your 'Marcus Miller' comment seems right on. The EBS heads (other than the Fafner) are really voiced to give you that 'modern scoop, sizzly top end'.
And, the difference between 250 watts and 500 is not so much volume, but rather having less compression and 'clamping' when you dig into those low notes. You really start to hear this in a mix when you really start digging in at the end of the night. Rarely will a head not be 'loud enough' these days, but lower powered heads will tend to clamp up a bit on the lower notes of the E through the B string. So, your description seems right on there also.
Of course, this impact gets greatly magnified if you are using a cab with a full, deep low end voicing that results in lower sensitivity. For example, my Acme 112 (4ohms) brings my F500 to its knees even at moderate volume, whereas I can knock walls down with that head and my high sensitivity 4ohm Berg AE410.
Sounds like a great head, and a nice way for those on a budget to experience the unique EBS tone!
Sounds like a nice head, and your 'Marcus Miller' comment seems right on. The EBS heads (other than the Fafner) are really voiced to give you that 'modern scoop, sizzly top end'.
And, the difference between 250 watts and 500 is not so much volume, but rather having less compression and 'clamping' when you dig into those low notes. You really start to hear this in a mix when you really start digging in at the end of the night. Rarely will a head not be 'loud enough' these days, but lower powered heads will tend to clamp up a bit on the lower notes of the E through the B string. So, your description seems right on there also.
Of course, this impact gets greatly magnified if you are using a cab with a full, deep low end voicing that results in lower sensitivity. For example, my Acme 112 (4ohms) brings my F500 to its knees even at moderate volume, whereas I can knock walls down with that head and my high sensitivity 4ohm Berg AE410.
Sounds like a great head, and a nice way for those on a budget to experience the unique EBS tone!
This amp does not sound quite like the other EBS amps IMO, it`s quicker and punchier, but with the same sweet top-end. Not scooped unless you, like I did, back off a few db`s in the upper mids.
I forgot to mention the character-knob, witch adds some nice growly tube-like effect.
That "clamping" on the b-string was exactly why I sold my LMII and F500.
+1 in that if you run out of headroom, even with a relatively high powered amp, you will hear some compression when you dig into the lowest notes. Of course, sometimes that is your speaker exhibiting 'power compression', so hard to tell what is what sometimes. However, +1, it is all about having enough power and speakers for what you need to do.
Luckily, with my relatively high sensitivity cabs, I never hit the rails on my F500. However, with the Acme, it brings the F500 to its knees!
I also dig the Genz power management design, which more gently and naturally compresses when you hit the power limit.
Lots of cool stuff out there now.
Bergantino AE's with the F500. Pretty nice match.
Also, meant to say +1 to that character control. If it is similar to the 'drive' control on the HD350, that is really nice for warming up the tone of the EBS thing. It also sounds like EBS went to school on the power management thing also, from their description. A good, musical, power management system can make a lower powered head sound a lot like a higher powered head!
I hope I get to try one of these sometime. I saw the unit at NAMM (very high quality), but didn't get to hear it.
I play the new Puma 500, Reidmar and Aggie Tonehammer 500 coupled with either 2 aggie SL 1x12 cabs or EBS NEO 212.
To me the 250W Riedmar sounds as loud as the other amps, at least with the EBS cab that is more sensitive than the Aggies. I don´t use the character knob, scoops the sound to much IMHO. I back off the high mid and increase bass a tad.
To me the 250W Riedmar sounds as loud as the other amps, at least with the EBS cab that is more sensitive than the Aggies. I don´t use the character knob, scoops the sound to much IMHO. I back off the high mid and increase bass a tad.
I gig the Puma 500/Aggie Tonehammer with the Aggies and the Reidmar with EBS NEO 212. All great amps.
I prefer the Puma 500 if I have to choose just one.
I prefer the Puma 500 if I have to choose just one.
That Puma500/900 update is really nice. IMO, the best all around amp I heard at NAMM this year. The 500 is kind of a 'better Markbass F500' and is even smaller and lighter. And, it is a hammer. Bonus that the price dropped so much on these also. The 900 cost about what I paid for my original Puma500. Nice job on those heads by the TecAmp guys.
The new Shuttle 6.2 is also VERY impressive... much fatter and fuller sounding than the original 6.
Has anyone of the Reidmar Owners opened up their amp to see which power module is actually used? That would clear up the rating discussion...
Reidmar opened up:
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Someone posted those images at this basschat thread:
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Since I don't know anything about power modules, what do you guys have to say about this?
