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Eden D410XLT, now what?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by David A. Davis, May 29, 2018.


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Refurb?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2018.
  1. Ceramic

    24.2%
  2. Neodymium

    72.7%
  3. Rat fur

    18.2%
  4. Duratex

    42.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
    E9FACDF0-8E76-41AF-BFDE-C2A6A9E6CBB9. I just snagged this on CL for $40. Everything is there except for speakers. I’m not a fan of rat fur. Looking for ideas on a refurb. I want to go 4 ohm, but what drivers? Ceramic or neo? Keep the rat fur and try to clean it up some or strip it and go with duratex? The casters are shot and the corners are rough but not broken. Open to suggestions.
     
  2. See if you can get someone to buy it off you for $50. :thumbsup:
    Then take that extra $10 and the money you would have spent refurbishing and loading this and get something newer complete and ready to rock.

    I did not mean any offence by this post, just these projects usually end up costing more than getting a complete cab with better performance. And unless you load it with original Eden speaker at $232 each x 4 click>Eden Amplification USM SPKR 70001 4 Ohm Woofer for D210XL8 and D410XLT4 | Full Compass than it will not preform as the great Eden it once was.

    In my opinion these projects are money pits with poor resale as none original, you will not get the cost of your drives back if you do not like the results.

    If you do move forward I do look forward to seeing your progress. Again no offence meant.
     
  3. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
  4. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
    To be honest, I’m not sure I would go back with the OEM’s. From what I’ve heard they’re not great.
     
  5. Four of these drivers will probably work . "Eminence Legend CA10-16 10" Bass Guitar Driver 16 Ohm" from www.parts-express.com! .These will get you to 4 ohms in parallel . I'm pretty sure they are replacements for Edens . That will get you to about $450 . Add another $35 for duratex and you'll be at $500 . The D410XLT is a great sounding cab but heavy . If you don't mind the weight and doing the speaker swap it might be good for you .
     
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  6. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
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  7. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    This ^^^^^

    These are very respectable cabinets with the original drivers, although very heavy. Drivers that are not well matched to the cabinet will be a waste of money.

    It's likely you could find a good working 410XLT for much less than the cost of new OEM drivers in the cabinet.

    Take a look https://www.guitarcenter.com/Used/?Ntt=eden 410&Ns=r
     
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  8. Paulabass

    Paulabass

    Sep 18, 2017
    That would certainly be subjective in that this cab was one of the biggest selling pro cabs ever made.
     
  9. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
    Oh, they were absolutely great sounding. I’m just just concerned with the reliability. There seams to a lot info out there about people blowing speakers.
     
  10. Skillsaw right around the middle. Finish with crosscut saw.
    Now you have two 210XL cabs each missing a side.

    I am a 210 vertical stack believer!!

    Now you are cooking with gas.
     
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  11. J Wilson

    J Wilson

    Feb 18, 2017
    none
    I'd either re-sell it as suggested earlier, or put it in the back yard on its back and put 4 flower pots in the holes.

    It will cost more than reasonable to go back with the OEM Edens, and it's a crapshoot buying four 'what-ifs' just to see if you get something workable. I'd take that money and buy something already complete. These remind me of a car ad where you get a steal of a price on a car . . . . . and all you have to do is put another engine in it.
     
  12. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Summerville, SC
    I’m not reselling it, So we can stop talking about that suggestion now. I’m not going to throw just any old drivers in it, so we can let that go too. Speaker technology has advanced quite a bit in the 15 years these have been around. I kind of figured by now someone would have put some neos in one and had some thoughts.
     
  13. bumperbass

    bumperbass Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2012
    Your best bet would be to post the interior dimensions and the total port area and then see if someone can model a few drivers for you.
     
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  14. There might be some info on the thread where someone cut one down and then rebuilt completely as 210 with the remaining 2 good woofers maybe 6 months ago.
     
  15. DavetheDude

    DavetheDude

    Nov 28, 2014
    Germany
    Well, I have a D210XLT with OEM speakers, for one they sound good, I guess they should be rather reliable, too. Well, in the past weeks I believe sometimes a speaker would tend to fart a bit (and then seize to do so), but that cab is probably 20 years old, which isn't too bad I guess. :)
     
  16. Caca de Kick

    Caca de Kick Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Eminence recently released a new Legend 10" speaker that is an eden copy and much higher power handling. $129 each.
     
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  17. If it's all that much higher in power handling it won't be alike in specs either. Have to measure the cab and check with the published specs.
     
  18. Thumpin6string

    Thumpin6string Supporting Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    Redding CA
    I did the same with a Carvin 210. I put Deltalites in it and it sounded fantastic. It was light too. I pulled the Deltalites out for another project and replaced them with Deltas and again it sounds fantastic, but is heavier. When I did this, I didn't know about matching speakers to cabinets. So I guess I was lucky twice? I checked the specs when I found out about matching, and the cabinet I had matched the specs of both the Deltalites and the Deltas other than they handled more power. I say measure the cab and check the specs on whatever speaker you want to use. If they are a match, use them.:thumbsup:
     
  19. Thumpin6string

    Thumpin6string Supporting Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    Redding CA
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