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Eden E300T

#81
Rocky said:
I have owned for a very very brief time both the 500 and world tour 800, and I dumped both of them quick. I did keep the xlt cabs, but I cant stand Eden amps. In my opinion they are highly overrated, and there wattage claims seem to be overrated as well. I didn't mind the tone so much I just find them week and a pain in the A** to EQ. I prefer simple EQ over tons of EQ, but thats me. I am sure the EQ options are great for some, but I have always opted for amps that sound great with minimal fuss. Maybe the 300T is a good amp, but I'm to jaded against Eden to try it especially for the price
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The 500 and the 800 are completely different then the 300T. I've had both an 800 and the 300T. There certainly is a lot of tone tweaking that can be done on the 800. The 300T is a pretty straight forward tone stack.

They were going at the time I picked mine up for under $700. Couldn't resist trying it at that price. And, if I didn't already have 3 SVTs of various vintages and needed another 300w tube amp, I certainly would have kept it.
 
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#82
I don't have any experience with the 300T other playing through one at a jam, and I'm not in the market for a new amp as I just bought a new Carvin B1500 for 575.00 from the Hollywood store. I'm using the Carvin with an Avatar 212 neo, and I'm very pleased with this setup so far. Is it my ultimate setup? No, but it was inexpensive and in my opinion it sounds great for my needs. I only commented on the Eden because I just played through one and it sounded OK, but my B1500 seems to blow it away. I can't swear that the Carvin is hands down better as I only got to play about four song through the Eden, so its not like I got to tweak it and find the sweet spot if there is one. Additionally, an Eden XST 410 cabinet was used, but the guy who owned it had it sitting on the floor with the casters so there was no bass coupling. This cabinet is a sealed design and has a long throw. Translation- weak fundamental with perceived low volume. It sound good out front but onstage it was weak and I hated it. I could barley hear myself onstage, but it was balanced out front so turning up was not an option, and I was playing my 64 J-bass with flats! Maybe this amp works for some players, but my experience has not been good with anything made by Eden. I'd put my Carvin B1500 with Avatar Cabs up against made by Eden. but For the record I'm one of those 50 yr old guys thats been gigging before Jake was born so what do I know anyhow...lol
 
#83
Well, being an Eden lovin' kinda guy, and thinkin' I might just be missing something, because I don't have a tube amp, although, I had many over the years. It's been about 35 years since then, I figured I'd go back to tubes again. So I bit on a E300T , Smarvo made Eden branded tubular piece of fun. 40 lbs is alot less than my rack, and I can't find guys who want to crank it up as much as I do anymore, so I'm selling off the rack, and going back to 300 tube watts. SVT's are too heavy and too expensive, and the Fender 300 is also too much cash, and from what I've heard so far the Eden 300 is not all that bad an amp. Got it off of e-Bay, from The Bass Place in Arizona, for 695.00 plus 50 shipping. New with warranty, which I hope I never need. I sure hope tubes are better sounding to my ears than my other set-up or I'll be bummin'. I hope to give it a good run, as this will be my last amp.
 
#84
Also; by looking at the Smarvo website, I see by physical appearance, that it seems Smarvo is also the maker of all the tilt back bass combo amps labeled as the Nemesis brand. I imagine that they also have an Eden designed preamp in them, as the E300T also has. This Smarvo outfit, looks like an up and coming company, that may just take the world by storm sooner or later.
 
#86
joegeezer said:
Fender 300 is also too much cash, and from what I've heard so far the Eden 300 is not all that bad an amp. Got it off of e-Bay, from The Bass Place in Arizona, for 695.00 plus 50 shipping. New with warranty, which I hope I never need.
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Plus the Fender 300pro is a HEAVEY son of a...... You must have bought the Eden 300 I was looking at, might have bought it too, if they did not have a Hexavalve for sale. I'm glad you got it, the people from The Bass Place are great to deal with. I second your post about that other guy, some people just think they can rain on other peoples parade:scowl:
 
#87
jaco batista said:
first off i really have a thing about tube amps made in china. they sound really chump compared to american or british. my opinion.

second, shouldnt they test these things before they send them out? mine is brand new. i have played it through all my bass cabs.my 50watt amp i cannot turn up past 3 or my windows will shake out of my house. this 300 eden volume 3 sounds like volume 9.5,, crap, and not very impressive for the 300 watts it boasts as i mentioned earlier. and if only kt88 are usable, then how come they cannot simply tell me that. i dont like people who sell things they cannot back up with support.

third, i would rather use 2, 50 watt heads (which is what i do now) over anything else. unless i am playing a stadium, i really see anything more as superlative.

i dont know all the technical whereasses, but i do know what my ears hear. i have about 10 or so tube amps, and this one is on the list of get rid of.

i also seem to have a problem with these mass produced higher end guitar warehouse amps. i have ruined several mesa drivers, as well as a couple amps. crate,,,, please. i had a GK i thought it sounded pretty decent. SWR mmmmmmmmmm,,,ok. i always go back to the fender bassman ten 50watt head i have had for 25 years. i find the more wattage, the more problems. like the 8x10, man they look cool. how often you replacing speakers.

through my experience if you are not spending the money on a boutique amp or paying to have something modded to actually be cool, you may as well save the money and get something cheaper and maybe stay with an SS amp. if i wasnt such a tweaker i would be happy with a sunn beta lead or my old GK
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Let's see, to sound like you, I'll say. First off, I don't listen to know it alls, that can't even fill out their profiles, because they are afraid that people will know what jerks they are. Who are you to tell any of us, not to buy something. What is it in life that makes you a tube expert, and what is it to you how loud I play, and with who? I have been doing this a very long time. It just happens that I live way out in the sticks now, and don't have the luxury, of try before you buy, but I do like my Eden amps. The one sweet part of living way out here, is that there are no jerks like you to put up with.
 
#88
twinfallsbass said:
Plus the Fender 300pro is a HEAVEY son of a...... You must have bought the Eden 300 I was looking at, might have bought it too, if they did not have a Hexavalve for sale. I'm glad you got it, the people from The Bass Place are great to deal with. I second your post about that other guy, some people just think they can rain on other peoples parade:scowl:
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Thanks! I'm just sick of people who make posts about how much they know, but aren't willing to even reveal who they are, and how come we should listen to them. At least guys like BillF aren't afraid to say who they are, and where they live, and how they got said knowledge. I'm glad that he got a lemon from Eden. He deserves one.
 
#89
Just got mine today. The box had been opened, so that scared me right away. Took inventory, and all I had was the head itself, and a power cord. No manual, telling how to use the fancy bias ports, no footswitch. I called the BassPlace. The guy said they were in the process of moving, but he found my info, and said he'd handle it. We'll see. Seems like about the dumbest time of year to be moving a retail store, at Christmas? Anyway, I let it sit at idle for an hour, and couldn't wait anymore, so I pulled in, hit the standby switch, and played through it for about 5 minutes. Seems to be able to EQ into my zone, has good bottom end, and I'm really surprised at the power it has. I'd say it has as much as my Eden WT405 at 2 ohms with 600 watts. ( I was playing through a 4 ohm Avatar 410Neo cab ) Thats all I can play today, and won't get much playtime in till after Christmas. So far, so good.
 
#90
Hi.

Congrats, just in time for Christmas no less :).

I've biased mine (Fame) to 30mV on the test points. Been there for about 1,5 years now with no ill effects.

Do keep on eye for the bias drift for the first 10-20 hours of operation, something that current production tubes are "blessed" with.

Regards
Sam
 
#91
Just chiming in here - I literally copied and pasted my same response from another Eden thread, but it was not specifically about the E300T, so I think I'm fair in doing so.

I LOVE my Eden E300T so far. The tone is like an Ampeg SVT meets SWR Bass 350 (tone wise). It VERY consistent sounding. Each note I play seems to be at the same volume. I guess that's due to the natural compression that tube amps produce. I am actually starting to get addicted to the tone.

Does anyone know where I can find a padded road case for the Eden E300T ? I don't feel comfortable carrying a "naked" tube amp around.
 
#92
today I get mine ashton from the tech,
It came with two blown tubes, one in the preamp section, and another in the power section
My tech also said, that the blown tube in the power section, can´t be replaced ?¿?, I must replace the six tubes, but he also assume that these 5 tubes, are almost new...
Another thing he said, is that the ashton comes with an integrated compressor in the signal path...
 
#94
Hi.

bullT:

Time to change the tech. While he's correct about the fact that any tube amp will benefit from a matched set, these Smarvos don't absolutely require that. Wouldn't hurt any to have a matched quality set over the stock EH's though ;). If You have the money, do the swap.

Mine (Fame) has run 1.5 years with 4 original EH's and 2 Sovteks without problems. About 2 gigs/month, 1 rehearsal/week.

Built in compressor?? Could he trace a schematic of that or at least take a pic?


joegeezer said:
The Ashton version does not have the tube biasing feature that is on the Eden version.
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Yes it does, if it's the BV300.

Post #62 by Pantsman:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483040&page=4

There's a pic of the Fame just below it.

And the Eden innards can be found here:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528423


joegeezer said:
Different preamp tubes come stock, as is the preamp itself different too.
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Same tubes, different manufacturer, Ruby vs. EH, unless Ashton has changesd them.

Damn, I have to find some time to draw the different mid sections on the E300T and BVH300 (& BV300) the difference in schematic level is minuscule.

Regards
Sam
 
#95
Boy, this thread has a long life :-)

Just thought I would add my experiences with the E300T. I have had mine (factory refurbished unit) for about a month now. Have practiced with it several times and have done two outdoor gigs with it. I am running it into a 4 ohm Eden D410XLT cab. It has been absolutely amazing. The only 'all tube' head I've owned in the past was an Ampeg and the Eden is in my humble opinion a much better built and sounding head. I really like the fact that you can bias each tube easily with a voltmeter.

Tons of power - on par with my GB 900. But the tone is way fatter, way punchier, granted the cab may have lots to do with it too. Anyway, totally impressed with it so far. FWIW.
 

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