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Eden WP100 Navigator for $199?

#201
Here is the first email I recieved after purchasing one with the $30 coupon then a backorder notification and then a "your order has been submitted" all 3 in a row.
Will be interesting to see what happens,I havent checked my credit card yet to verify that I was charged the $169.
Customer Name: Steve Smullen

Customer Email: [email protected]

Cancellation Notice

Order Number: #S05562623

Order Date: 04/03/2011

Hello,

The item(s) noted below have been cancelled from your order. If you have any questions about this cancellation, feel free to call 800-391-8762. We'll be glad to suggest alternate music gear and to be of service any way we can.

Thanks for shopping at Musician's Friend!

Items
Ship To

Eden WP-100 Navigator Bass Preamp Regular

Product: #485244000000000

Quantity: 1.00
 
#202
There's no tube drive or grind available with this preamp. It barely flavors the tone based on my recollection owning one a couple years ago. I can't recall about the compressor.

I only sold mine as it was 2U and 12lbs. That's a lot of beef for just a preamp. And 2 years ago there weren't many lightweight poweramps to pair with it so you ended up with an Ampeg VST sized and weighted case for a pre+power combo.
 
#203
Interesting that all you people are having your credit card charged. The MF told me they do not charge until the item is physically in stock, so right before shipping. He told me they place a hold on your funds via the card only, not an actual charge.

Are you sure its actually a charge on the card?
 
#207
I called to order one yesterday. At first they gave me static about the $30 GC coupon, calling it a pricematch, and since GC doesnt stock them, they cant do it. Then they said they could do $169. Then he comes back on saying that the price is a misprint and it costs them twice that, and that it should be $699, and that they can't honor misprints and that other people's orders will be cancelled. So basically I didn't order one for $169 or $199 over the phone. I put in an order online for $199. I don't think they are going to show up.
 
#209
this is what i got today ...i have a feeling it will be cancelled ...oh yeah on "special order" items rules are different such as being charged asap!

Order Date: 04/03/2011

Thanks for shopping at Musician's Friend!

One or more of the items you ordered will take a little longer to get to you. The item(s) below have been placed on backorder and are expected to ship to you as soon as we receive them.

Even though we do our best to keep our website as updated as possible with the most accurate item availability information, stocking situations can change rapidly. Please know we will ship your item as quickly as possible and sincerely apologize for this inconvenience.

If you have questions, give us a call at 800-391-8762. We're open 7 days a week from 4:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. PT.
 
#212
Jimmy Stump said:
I did a little research on this issue last night. Seems like many, many Eden fans felt quality control went UP when production moved to China.
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My version was an 04, QC went down hill around 07,08 I guess & then maybe did get better when it went to China... but $700 for a Chinese made amp is steep. Theres a BIG profit margin there for Eden they aren't passing on to us.

Berhinger can sell their Vamp Pro 2U rackmount preamp for $185 so Eden should be 300-400 tops using the same Chinese labor rate.
 
#213
FuzzBoxVoodoo said:
Here is the first email I recieved after purchasing one with the $30 coupon then a backorder notification and then a "your order has been submitted" all 3 in a row.
Will be interesting to see what happens,I havent checked my credit card yet to verify that I was charged the $169.
Customer Name: Steve Smullen

Customer Email: [email protected]

Cancellation Notice

Order Number: #S05562623

Order Date: 04/03/2011

Hello,

The item(s) noted below have been cancelled from your order. If you have any questions about this cancellation, feel free to call 800-391-8762. We'll be glad to suggest alternate music gear and to be of service any way we can.

Thanks for shopping at Musician's Friend!

Items
Ship To

Eden WP-100 Navigator Bass Preamp Regular

Product: #485244000000000

Quantity: 1.00
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Did you call them for an explanation of why?
 
#214
Tunaman said:
My version was an 04, QC went down hill around 07,08 I guess & then maybe did get better when it went to China... but $700 for a Chinese made amp is steep. Theres a BIG profit margin there for Eden they aren't passing on to us.

Berhinger can sell their Vamp Pro 2U rackmount preamp for $185 so Eden should be 300-400 tops using the same Chinese labor rate.
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Although I'd believe that the Vamp pro uses DSP rather than analog signal control; this would indicate to me that there are more components and a greater level of complexity in the Navigator.

I mean, look at all the ins, outs, and knobs! :D
 
#215
The FBI just showed up at my door inquiring why I was trying to steal this Eden preamp for $199 shipped, no tax. I promptly told them about this thread, and that "wespaul" in Utah was to blame. The FBI office in Utah opens in 13 minutes, so I'd expect them to be visiting the OP soon. :p
 
#216
gastric said:
There's no tube drive or grind available with this preamp. It barely flavors the tone based on my recollection owning one a couple years ago. I can't recall about the compressor.

I only sold mine as it was 2U and 12lbs. That's a lot of beef for just a preamp. And 2 years ago there weren't many lightweight poweramps to pair with it so you ended up with an Ampeg VST sized and weighted case for a pre+power combo.
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4 years ago I was gigging the Nav on a PLX 2402. The total weight was under 35# in a 4 space SKB. I don't really go for 'tube grind' as it often means overly compressed and sucks the punch out of your sound (IMO, YMMV and the other 40 disclaimers). There was definately warmth there however. The basic preamp was extremely clear and very quiet, until I started adding in the Turbo Boost, Enhance and the Tube. Then the noise floor came up To normal, live oriented bass preamp levels.

With all that stuff turned off, into a protools HD rig, it went toe to toe with a 2K mic pre in terms of clarity and noise. My only real complaints with the Nav were the LED's and then number of knobs. It is a fairly complex device for stage use.
 
#217
I'm sure there's a bunch of lurkers like me who ordered this too. Ordered yesterday, and I haven't got a cancellation notice. My MF account shows it as ordered.

I just put together a rack rig with a Peavey IPR 3000 power amp and an Art Pro Channel pre. This price is too good to pass up for a bass specific pre.

By the way, I'm pretty sure I'll be getting this at this price or better. My state has consumer protection laws against offering items for sale with no intent to sell them and against offering items for sale with no intent to supply reasonable public demand.
 

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