Eden WTDI Direct Box/Preamp

[newbold]

The compressor is useful but not for a peak limiter. Mine's generally turned up past 2 o'clock.

I cut the bass, engage the bass boost and only (if ever) use a very small amount of enhance. At times I roll off a couple of dB of treble and often bump the mids.

tonynoriega: don't skimp on learning your gear for yourself. This one's pretty simple.

 

[Chrisk-K]

Why does the low eq control 30Hz? 99% of speakers can't handle such a low frequency. 50-80Hz would be more useful.

 

[walker rosewood]

Freq. of a low B is ~30hz. It may be centered at 30hz, but surrounding frequencies are affected too. Many of those speakers have a roll off in that range, but don't cut completely. You could run it right into a PA, which is more likely to have nice subs that do handle those freqs.

 

[tonynoriega]

Newbold ~ thanks for the head's up. I do plan on putting this thing through it's paces and mostly wanted to get a jump on the learning curve. Your input is very useful! Thanks ~ Tony

The compressor is useful but not for a peak limiter. Mine's generally turned up past 2 o'clock.

I cut the bass, engage the bass boost and only (if ever) use a very small amount of enhance. At times I roll off a couple of dB of treble and often bump the mids.

tonynoriega: don't skimp on learning your gear for yourself. This one's pretty simple.

 

[jiyang71]

To anyone already has one:
Can the wall wart power supply work with 200~240V AC (Europe, Asia)?
They say it's 'universal power supply' without any details.

Thanks.

 

[quadrogong]

Raymond, I must say..your clips sound beautiful, I downloaded the clips w the compressor on, and through good phones the tone is just wonderful..!
may I ask what bass,strings,and which pickup u used?
really liked it. considering trying the WTDI for the compressor alone

 

[raymondl3]

Hey Thanks a lot! I used my Suhr Classic J which has two split coil Suhr pickups he calls "Humpreys." The strings were D'Addario XL-165s (.45-.105) and if I was using the 9-V pre, I had the tone controls set flat (the preamp is factory set to be the same volume as passive mode). I went into the Eden, Radial JD48 DI, Presonus MP20 mic pre (has no EQ), to sound card using Ableton Live (no processing).

 

[CElton]

Hey Thanks a lot! I used my Suhr Classic J which has two split coil Suhr pickups he calls "Humpreys." The strings were D'Addario XL-165s (.45-.105) and if I was using the 9-V pre, I had the tone controls set flat (the preamp is factory set to be the same volume as passive mode). I went into the Eden, Radial JD48 DI, Presonus MP20 mic pre (has no EQ), to sound card using Ableton Live (no processing).

Just curious why you used the J48 when the Eden has a DI?

 

[raymondl3]

Just curious why you used the J48 when the Eden has a DI?

Good question. I think it was just habit, plus I've never thought of the WTDI as a DI anyway since it is post tone only. I think of it as a pedal to use for tone shaping. The J48 is very neutral so I don't think it would have made much difference in the end result.

 

[Ben Clarke]

I just got mine today - bought on a whim...

I played it through headphones and I quite like it, especially for the money. Huge bottom end if desired. Tone controls work well, but noisy when boosting treble. I don't boost treble much, so it's not an issue and might not be as noticeable through a live rig anyway.

The compressor works fairly transparently unless you smack it pretty hard, and the enhance knob is just about the only knob labelled "Enhance" that I would ever turn up.

There are some things I kinda don't like about it.

-the blue LED is stupidly bright. Like seeing spots when you look away from it bright. Gaff tape fixed it. If I keep it I'll probably Sharpie over it. I do like that it has a power indicator, though.

-I don't mind the 12-18V power, but why center POSITIVE? at least you can run it with either AC or DC, but come on. Also, there is no indication of polarity on the unit itself so hope your memory's good. I feel for the poor souls down the road who buy them used if the PS is missing.

-slightly distorted sounds are pretty ugly to me - no tubiness at all. as you hold the note and it decays, the distortion component drops out suddenly rather than diminishing gradually. Useless for dirt, for me anyway.

 

[raymondl3]

Distortion? I was not able to get any distortion from the unit.

 

[Chef]

I wouldn't expect this to do distortion well.

 

[Ben Clarke]

I don't mean distortion in the typical FX context. I found that any setting of the gain knob above about 9:00 to start getting ugly on peaks. This is with EQ zeroed out on the WTDI and on the Stingray I was playing.

I prefer that anything in the signal path either have plenty of headroom OR transition fairly gracefully in and out of "the dirt zone".

 

[raymondl3]

You might be overdriving your bass head's preamp with a combination of the Stingray's and WTDI's output. I can turn the gain and master all the way up on the WTDI and not clip the preamp (or for that matter hear any difference in sound) but that's because I have passive medium output pickups and I adjust the gain on the amp so that it doesn't clip. I don't think the gain function was designed to provide any "grit" inside the box.

 

[Ben Clarke]

I was using it straight into a mixer via 1/4" and listening through headphones. It was definitely happening at the 1st gain stage of the WTDI.

A Stingray with eq on the detents isn't all that hot. I'll have to play around with it and see if I'm mistaken, though. It happens...

 

[skyj]

ok, here's where my ignorance shines through. would i be able to use this Eden, go direct and not use a stage amp and cabinet for small venues and just use the monitors?

 

[raymondl3]

ok, here's where my ignorance shines through. would i be able to use this Eden, go direct and not use a stage amp and cabinet for small venues and just use the monitors?

In theory.

 

[Joe Smithberger]

Will this run on Phantom power like the ToneHammer?

 

[tsunami1052]

Does not say anything about running on phantom power in manual, so I'll say no.

 

[newbold]

Why does the low eq control 30Hz? 99% of speakers can't handle such a low frequency. 50-80Hz would be more useful.

So you can turn DOWN the ultra lows.

This thing is great to get a more natural 'instrument' tone than a heavy amp sound. It has its own colour but is a great tone shaper.

I can go from classic electric sounds on my amp to modern hifi with this at the step of a foot.

U cut bass and hit the boost. It brings out the 'fundamentals' and attack of my notes a lot more than I had expected.

Sort of like an 'I can't believe my bass sounds like this' kind of 'whathafah' style reaction.

me likey.