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Elias Bass guitar.

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Has anyone ever heard of or own a Elias bass guitar?. Peter Elias made them in Canada during the 1980's. I bought mine ( Solid Padauk) for $700.00 (half price dutch auction sale) during that time period. It had emg P pickups and I added a set of emg jazz bass pickups. Mine is #087. Was searching the web and cannot find much if anything about them. Must have been a very low volume luthier.
 
The appraisal was done by a fellow who used to own Mother's Music, a guitar shop here in Edmonton. Mother's carried these basses, I believe in the early 70's, as Peter Elias was working out of Edm for some time. From what I hear, Mr. Elias had to stop making basses using cherry wood due to serious allergies to the dust. So then came the Padouk wood.
 
I am familiar with his store. I was in his shop once in 1987, when the band I played with was working in Edmonton for a few weeks. I saw an AP-1 on the wall with a price tag of $4000. and I mentioned to the guys in the band I'll have to up my insurance value on my Elias. It was the first time I had seen another Elias bass since I bought mine.
My AP-1 (#99) was bought new in 1983 for $1500. That would be about $3400. in today's money. Unless the bass was abused, it should have lost little value. Probably should have gained some value, due to the low numbers made, and quality.
It would cost at least $4000. today, if it had to be replaced... IMHO of course. So I must have a different definition of value. I say though, I'd sure like to know where to get a handemade bass of that quality for $1600 - 2000. for future reference.
 
Unfortunately (if you're selling) or fortunately (if you're buying), there are some great handmade basses to be had on the used market for around $2,000. One example of many is the Alembic Essence. A new one starts at over $7,000 (and you can spend a lot more if you option it up), but they can be found on the used market in great condition for around $2,000.

I am a huge fan of Elias basses, but I think the low production volume (my best guess is less than 200) is keeping the price down. They are pretty much unknown to anyone who doesn't have one, so there's no demand driving the price up.
 
I just found out that Elias #026 is still for sale in Vancouver. If anyone is interested, give me a shout and I can put you in touch with the seller. This was offered for sale a year and a half ago for $1,500. Not sure what the current asking price is, but probably a bit lower.

Lined fretless, jazz style, rosewood fingerboard, birdseye maple neck. Unsure about the body wood... Koa? Walnut?

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Just a little plug... if you haven't had a look at the Elias Bass Registry in a while, check it out... there are now twenty basses listed; most with pictures.

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Some interesting recent additions. Check out #012... Haven't seen one of those for decades!

If you have an Elias bass and want it in the registry, please feel free to send any details and photos you'd like to share to [email protected]

Thanks,
Brian
 
I have #027, bought it new about 1979.
I know the Whitehorse guy with #16.
Mine is far better....his feels like a good P bass....good, but not worth 1200.
Mine (#027) is a teriffic bass.

If you would like to have yours and your Whitehorse friend's basses included in the Elias Bass Registry, please send any information you'd like to share (and pictures too!) to [email protected]

I'm trying to document as much as I can about these beautiful and rare instruments. You can browse the registry here: Link Removed

Thank you,
Brian
 
I've had to move some files around again, which caused a few links in this thread to break. Here are the updated links:

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The Elias Bass Registry is unaffected and can still be found here: Link Removed

If you have an Elias bass, please consider sending in a picture and some info!