ESP MusicCord

[bongomania]

No, I said that I have very good hearing.( And it has been proven many times over by those who have seen it displayed first hand).

For someone with such great hearing, it's amazing how you aren't hearing ANYTHING that people here are saying to you.

 

[fokof]

I asked Vic about this and he swears he hears a difference when the ESP is plugged into his studio monitors. Then again, Meyer ships their $5000 monitors with a standard power cable.

Vic is an incredible player , nothing against him , probably has incredible hearing and such but my 20$ is on John Meyer on that subject.

 

[seamonkey]

Hey guys.

The “Gerald Veasley” and “Victor Wooten” signature power cords.






They will be at Summer NAMM. They are special versions of MusicCord-PRO.


And since these are sig power cords the biz is a little different between the artist and the company.

Their names are on it. They get paid for it. Next are infomercials.

 

[R Baer]

I've got a question for the real engineers here (and by that I mean those with actual engineering degrees). Is it possible there could be any passive components, or anything in the way the cable is constructed, that can possibly be altering the A/C going into the amp in anyway whatsoever? Now, I'm not asking whether or not their marketing claims are possible, I'm simply asking if it is possible that the cable could make any change, no matter how slight, in any way, to the A/C power coming into the amp?

 

[seamonkey]

When science is gonna prove without any doubt that the big bang really did happened and prove it 100% with mesurements and all, there are people who are still gonna believe in Adam & Eve.

The big band is a ways off from being fully understood, but we can start with the round earth for just now. Oh wait we can't


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[bongomania]

I've got a question for the real engineers here (and by that I mean those with actual engineering degrees). Is it possible there could be any passive components, or anything in the way the cable is constructed, that can possibly be altering the A/C going into the amp in anyway whatsoever? Now, I'm not asking whether or not their marketing claims are possible, I'm simply asking if it is possible that the cable could make any change, no matter how slight, in any way, to the A/C power coming into the amp?

They've already answered this question.

 

[JeffBTZ]

The big band is a ways off from being fully understood, but we can start with the round earth for just now. Oh wait we can't


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Wow. Thanks for that link. I have a few friends who would love to read that. My favorite part (so far) is this:

Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?"

A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible.

This deeply saddens me.

 

[20db pad]

Toying with the idea of sending a link to this thread to the James Randi Education Foundation. Maybe somebody here could win a million bucks!

 

[superbassman2000]

Toying with the idea of sending a link to this thread to the James Randi Education Foundation. Maybe somebody here could win a million bucks!

He does have an audiophile challenge right? I thought I heard it somewhere...granted we still don't really have any actual objective evidence for either side

 

[Spencer!]

He does have an audiophile challenge right? I thought I heard it somewhere...granted we still don't really have any actual objective evidence for either side

Maybe this guy can do the test: Link Removed

 

[20db pad]

He does have an audiophile challenge right? I thought I heard it somewhere...granted we still don't really have any actual objective evidence for either side

He does, something to do with high-end speaker cables for home audio. Granted, Randi is more known for looking for proof of supernatural ability, but the claims made by some of these manufacturers (ESP among them, ironically) make pretty good ghost stories.

 

[bongomania]

The way I understand Randi's involvement in this is:
Pear Audio (makers of high-end speaker cables) made some typically outlandish high-end claims about their cables. A skeptical reviewer proposed that hearing things that "can't be heard" was a lot like claiming to see things that "normal" people can't see, hear voices from the spirit world, and any other sort of perception that defies known science. So the reviewer presented the idea of a challenge to both Randi and Pear. Both parties accepted. Randi put it in writing that he would pay a million dollars to Pear if anyone could reliably, repeatably hear the difference between a Pear speaker cable and any other adequately-made speaker cable of the same length.

Pear said they didn't like Randi's suggested test system, so Randi said "fine, test it any way you want to--as long as it is a test any third party can observe and verify as blind and unbiased".

A year or so passed, with Pear making one excuse after another, and finally Pear backed out of the challenge. The challenge test never took place.

Side note: the exact same story happened with Penta water. Randi again said they could provide their own test mechanism and their own test process, as long as any outside party could verify the honesty of the test, and the only result that was needed in order to win the million was to prove that a human body absorbed or utilized Penta water in any way differently from regular tap water. Penta refused.

 

[20db pad]

I guess Randi's gonna have to break out his check writing pen soon!

 

[fokof]

The big band is a ways off from being fully understood, but we can start with the round earth for just now. Oh wait we can't


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Your right , it's a better example.

BTW: Big Band theory is whole other thing

 

[Roy Vogt]

I'm in the NAMM Zone now and getting ready for my Bass Bash Event. After the smoke clears I'll record a bass track (probably something simple covering the whole range of a 6 string bass) directly into the DAW using an Axeport Pro. I'll reamp the track in the following configurations:
Conventional 1/4" cable and conventional power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Taralabs audio cable and conventional power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Conventional 1/4" cable and ESP Pro power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Taralabs audio cable and ESP Pro power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
I'll do identical mp3 compression and place them all on a webpage and see if anyone can tell the difference.
I will see Michael Griffin from ESP at NAMM and I'll show him this thread and I'll ask him his thoughts.
See you all next week (or thereabouts) and I'm looking forward to how all this evolves.

 

[scotch]

I'm in the NAMM Zone now and getting ready for my Bass Bash Event. After the smoke clears I'll record a bass track (probably something simple covering the whole range of a 6 string bass) directly into the DAW using and Axeport Pro. I'll reamp the track in the following configurations:
Conventional 1/4" cable and conventional power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Taralabs audio cable and conventional power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Conventional 1/4" cable and ESP Pro power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
Taralabs audio cable and ESP Pro power cord through Eden Navigator set flat
I'll do identical mp3 compression and place them all on a webpage and see if anyone can tell the difference.
I will see Michael Griffin from ESP at NAMM and I'll show him this thread and I'll ask him his thoughts.
See you all next week (or thereabouts) and I'm looking forward to how all this evolves.

Just curious why you are throwing in the Taralabs cable in as a variable? It's going to convolute the data a little & is irrelevant to the ESP discussion. Although, it would be entirely relevant to a high-end audio discussion. You're really doing 2 tests in 1.

 

[Roy Vogt]

Just curious why you are throwing in the Taralabs cable in as a variable? It's going to convolute the data a little & is irrelevant to the ESP discussion. Although, it would be entirely relevant to a high-end audio discussion. You're really doing 2 tests in 1.

Because someone on here was debunking it as well. I figured I might as well kill 2 birds with one stone. I suppose I could separate the results into 2 different tests, but it would be interesting to see how they all stack up against each other.
I'm also going to take the cable to Sam Stafford at Jams Audio and we'll look at how it affects frequency response on a Analyzer program with a sine wave. Just curious about all of this.

 

[bongomania]

Again, with sincere respect: the only way the Taralabs test will mean anything is if the "other" cable is the same length, AND the capacitance of the two cables is close to the same.

Otherwise, all you'd be testing is how different capacitances sound different, which everyone already accepts as true.

Also, check this out, and be sure to click on the graphs: http://www.ovnilab.com/articles/cables.shtml

 

[DJ Bebop]

When science is gonna prove without any doubt that the big bang really did happened and prove it 100% with mesurements and all, there are people who are still gonna believe in Adam & Eve.

I believe in the Big Bang and, Adam & Eve. Now what?

 

[Roy Vogt]

Again, with sincere respect: the only way the Taralabs test will mean anything is if the "other" cable is the same length, AND the capacitance of the two cables is close to the same.

Otherwise, all you'd be testing is how different capacitances sound different, which everyone already accepts as true.

Also, check this out, and be sure to click on the graphs: Analysis of Audio Cables

OK, I can match them. It's a 10 foot cable, so I'll find a 10 foot cable of close capacitance. I think the people at George L's can help me with that.