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EUB project

#322
JIO said:
The posts lock the string from a internal clamp - no need for wrap.

Knurled knobs/dials on the back raise and lower the internal solid shaft inside the hollow post. The string is threaded through a hole in the post and the shaft rises from below locking the string in place as you screw the knob clockwise.
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I had that kind of locking tuners on a Stratocaster, back in the day. It also had a locking nut and Fender Lace Sensor pickups. Yum. That guitar never went out of tune. Even when you whammied the whammy bar to the bottom and back again. A very cool design.
All round, a very cool EUB. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoyed mine. They're a lot of fun (especially bowing!). Nice job, as per usual! :thumbsup: :cool:
 
#323
Jazz Ad said:
Sperzel tuners are far Superior to anything else I know.
I think they'd dominate the marker if they were available in standard hole sizes and allowed clover buttons.
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It is curious why they haven't address that market - but you can get them in a multitude of cool anodized colours!
 
#324
Deleted member 264575 said:
I had that kind of locking tuners on a Stratocaster, back in the day. It also had a locking nut and Fender Lace Sensor pickups. Yum. That guitar never went out of tune. Even when you whammied the whammy bar to the bottom and back again. A very cool design.
All round, a very cool EUB. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I enjoyed mine. They're a lot of fun (especially bowing!). Nice job, as per usual! :thumbsup: :cool:
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It's true - I think as much as post wrapped tuners mostly work, people don't appreciate the superior advantage of these tuners. I spec'd them for my SuperB 5'r and as you say - it stays exactly in tune forever! And.., another big plus is footprint and weight - small, well designed and light as a feather. Aesthetics-wise they wouldn't look right on certain old-school/trad basses - but on anything more modern (Ibanez SR's, some Peavey's, metal basses - and for sure 5 & 6 string basses - they are perfect compliments visually and work brilliantly.

Thanks Neal - eventually yes, I will very much enjoy bowing it and plucking/picking it too! :bassist:
 
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#326
I don't know if they sell individual tuners, but it wouldn't hurt to ask
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I just (2 days ago) bought some Sperzel (sets) from them through their Ebay store. I haven't obviously gotten them yet but they had the best prices, answered my question very quickly and have been keeping me up to date on the order status. They may be willing to help you.
 
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#328
Jisch said:
Sorry to go OT - does anyone know where you can buy individual Spertzel tuners? I can find plenty of 2x2 or 4 x1 packages, but no individual ones, which make a five string kind of expensive.
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I ended up buying odd # sets to get what I needed and am collecting the spare ones for the next order. Post your results if you make a connection w/them on singles. (may cost more in the long run though…)
 
#330
Jazz Ad said:
Sperzel tuners are far Superior to anything else I know.
I think they'd dominate the marker if they were available in standard hole sizes and allowed clover buttons.
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Sperzels are nice, but I wouldn't call them far superior. I used them one time and found them to not be quite robust enough, so they got kind of stiff under string tension. Also on the B string I found that it still needed a full wrap or the tuner would break the string.
 
#331
Hopkins said:
Sperzels are nice, but I wouldn't call them far superior. I used them one time and found them to not be quite robust enough, so they got kind of stiff under string tension. Also on the B string I found that it still needed a full wrap or the tuner would break the string.
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Didn't experience these issues on my SuperB -

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#333
I had Sperzels on my LB75, I completely forgot about them until this thread. I never had any problems with them breaking strings or getting stiff under tension. Those individuals are expensive though. I'll have to think about it. The Carvin tuners are very nice, and about half the cost of Sperzels.
 
#334
JIO said:
Didn't experience these issues on my SuperB -

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I think the stiffness may have been because I ordered them directly from Sperzel and they didn't have a drop of lubrication in the gears. A little bit of dry graphite lube helped,but that D string tuner is still pretty stiff on that bass. The string breaking issue was easily solved by giving it a 3/4 wrap around the post instead of pulling the string tight, locking it down, and tuning from there.
 
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#336
wraub said:
Every time I return to this thread, this bass looks more betterer than before.
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:) thanks! I'm expecting Dan to be finished with the wenge/ebony neck for SuperB #1 very soon and the backordered Delano oval pu will ship next week, so in the next couple of weeks I should be able to assemble it.
 
#338
Will_White said:
Any news on this one?
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Funny you should ask… today I finally had time to wire it up. It all works, but with many issues. The individual pole pu's units are low gain, very low gain. Much tweaking at my MXR d.i.+, and various pedals (Boss CS-2 compression/sustainer, MXR Deluxe Fuzz) to boost output levels into useable territory. The pu units are a good idea, but the 'craftsmanship'/quality is as low as the output. I had to do back & forth with the maker as they were falling apart in my hands. He sent replacements (twice) but the consistency was non-exsistant. I've decided to reverse engineer them and make myself a new set of much higher quality. It's hard to believe someone would launch a company with such poor quality. I shot this pic trying to show the rosin - boy is my bowing rusty! Need to address some bridge curvature/bow access issues, but more or less I'm in the ballpark.

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charlie monroe said:
That's a real shame about the pickups. You were at the finish line and now you have to roll up the sleeves to get into something you thought was sorted.
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True enough, but I'm the sort who sees the worth of an idea through the bad delivery and know how I can improve it. For instance (no pics for now, but I will post eventually) the pole-pieces are crudely imbedded in very roughly cut aluminum tubing. I have a 38 special casing of the same diameter that would work great (much more stable) as a container. Before one jumps to conclusions about why I have such a bullet casing - I actually found it in my backyard. (I do not, nor have I ever owned a firearm). Anyway, it's the same diameter and can be cut accurately and finished/filed cleanly. (now I just need to find 3 more!) The rest is pretty straight forward - wire wound around a tiny bobbin (need to source) and 'sealed' in the tube w/a wire coming from it. The units I bought were crap (on their own), so maybe I was just pushing the limit of their use as visually/functionally exposed pole pieces - maybe it was just more of a guitar thing. On my EUB, to dial in even string-to-string output levels each unit is positioned at a different height relation to each string. Sorta' like a Dimarzio, Darkstar or G&L MDF pu's with adjustable poles. So they need to be movable and sturdy and not fall apart in your hands. (and aesthetically pleasing/well crafted) I can do that. For now, I need some woodshedding w/my bow!
 

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