...Apparently, not JUST teenagers. There's a lot of people on this forum who are just too "special" to play a Fender.
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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing
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Well, the "turth" here is that Tutmarc's invention was not commercially successful. Fender's was. That's why we're still talking about Fender today, and Tutmarc is at best a footnote in history.
I'm glad Leo came around, if not we'd be talking about Tutmarc Jazz basses. It doesn't quite sound right.
How much impact did the Tutmarc bass have on music between 1935 and 1951?
By contrast, how much impact did the Fender bass have on music between 1951 and 1966?
No, we wouldn't. That's the whole point.
As a player, writer, producer, and engineer (of a sort), I find that many basses, like Danelectro's, Ric's, EB's, T-bird's etc. have a specialist role of you need a certain genre-specific thing and are willing to put up with some mixing issues. And many esoteric basses are appropriate for bass-forward styles that feature virtuosity. But for sitting in a mix in a wide variety of styles, a Precision, Jazz, or Stingray are where it's at. The will get you through any session and make the engineer and prodicer smile.
By 1955, somebody at Gibson would have dreamed something up and we would all be talking about Gibson Precision Rippers or something like that.
With Fender, you are just paying for the name. Everyone knows on this forum that SX is the top brand, and cannot be beaten for price, quality, etc....it's been proven that you cannot tell the difference in tone between a classic, pre-CBS bass, and a $129 SX. Right? All hail the mighty SX! The most beautiful, awesome bass in the world!
Of course, you will have to do a few mods: Swap out the tuners, bridge, pots, pickups, neck, body, etc....and you will have a bass that exceeds not just the Fenders, but all the boutique Fender clones.
Everyone knows SX makes a better bass then Sadoswky! I mean, that's just common sense, right? Same wood, same basic design = same bass! Some peasant working barefoot in a Chinese sweatshop is capable of building a much better bass then a Celinder or Lakland Bob Gluab! Everyone knows it on this forum! (They just don't want to admit the truth!)
The proof is in the pudding! Many pro bassists on this forum have shown time and time again that despite having a Fodera or Alembic or Sadowsky in their arsenal, it is the mighty SX that they personally use in the studio, and on the big stages! They prefer the SX!
Of course, you will have to do a few mods: Swap out the tuners, bridge, pots, pickups, neck, body, etc....and you will have a bass that exceeds not just the Fenders, but all the boutique Fender clones.
Everyone knows SX makes a better bass then Sadoswky! I mean, that's just common sense, right? Same wood, same basic design = same bass! Some peasant working barefoot in a Chinese sweatshop is capable of building a much better bass then a Celinder or Lakland Bob Gluab! Everyone knows it on this forum! (They just don't want to admit the truth!)
The proof is in the pudding! Many pro bassists on this forum have shown time and time again that despite having a Fodera or Alembic or Sadowsky in their arsenal, it is the mighty SX that they personally use in the studio, and on the big stages! They prefer the SX!
- Jun 3, 2009
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With Fender, you are just paying for the name. Everyone knows on this forum that SX is the top brand, and cannot be beaten for price, quality, etc....it's been proven that you cannot tell the difference in tone between a classic, pre-CBS bass, and a $129 SX. Right? All hail the mighty SX! The most beautiful, awesome bass in the world!
Of course, you will have to do a few mods: Swap out the tuners, bridge, pots, pickups, neck, body, etc....and you will have a bass that exceeds not just the Fenders, but all the boutique Fender clones.
Everyone knows SX makes a better bass then Sadoswky! I mean, that's just common sense, right? Same wood, same basic design = same bass! Some peasant working barefoot in a Chinese sweatshop is capable of building a much better bass then a Celinder or Lakland Bob Gluab! Everyone knows it on this forum! (They just don't want to admit the truth!)
The proof is in the pudding! Many pro bassists on this forum have shown time and time again that despite having a Fodera or Alembic or Sadowsky in their arsenal, it is the mighty SX that they personally use in the studio, and on the big stages! They prefer the SX!
I'm sorry, but can I have what you are smoking, eating and taking? I'll let you argue SX is better then Fender, but not better then Sadowsky. And I'm darn sure you wont find anyone using SX in the studio. Live? Probably because no one cares if some drunk pukes on your SX. But no way in the studio. And don't even think of using one in mine...
With Fender, you are just paying for the name. Everyone knows on this forum that SX is the top brand, and cannot be beaten for price, quality, etc....it's been proven that you cannot tell the difference in tone between a classic, pre-CBS bass, and a $129 SX. Right? All hail the mighty SX! The most beautiful, awesome bass in the world!
Of course, you will have to do a few mods: Swap out the tuners, bridge, pots, pickups, neck, body, etc....and you will have a bass that exceeds not just the Fenders, but all the boutique Fender clones.
Everyone knows SX makes a better bass then Sadoswky! I mean, that's just common sense, right? Same wood, same basic design = same bass! Some peasant working barefoot in a Chinese sweatshop is capable of building a much better bass then a Celinder or Lakland Bob Gluab! Everyone knows it on this forum! (They just don't want to admit the truth!)
The proof is in the pudding! Many pro bassists on this forum have shown time and time again that despite having a Fodera or Alembic or Sadowsky in their arsenal, it is the mighty SX that they personally use in the studio, and on the big stages! They prefer the SX!
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That's not really a fair comparison, being that the world in general wasn't ready for most electrified music until the Fifties. In 1935, the biggest hits were from "Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers", "Shirley Temple", "Bing Crosby", and "Cole Porter".
Sometimes an idea or invention comes well before it's time of acceptance.
That said, Leo was the one who was able to "convert" bassists/bandleaders into believing that a electrified, horizontally held, fretted bass was not only a "good idea", but was "superior" to the large upright basses that they had been traditionally been playing.
Let's also keep in mind that, prior to 1949, there weren't really appropriate amplifiers for such instruments. Then Ampeg made one in 1949, followed by Fender in 1950 (who also popularized the bass amp), so Tutmarcs bass may have suffered from that (insufficient amplification to use in a band situation) as well.
Just some thoughts.
I'm sorry, but can I have what you are smoking, eating and taking? I'll let you argue SX is better then Fender, but not better then Sadowsky. And I'm darn sure you wont find anyone using SX in the studio. Live? Probably because no one cares if some drunk pukes on your SX. But no way in the studio. And don't even think of using one in mine...
Shoot I'll argue the SX better than a Fender..been there did that. BTW...I think he got you
Exactly.
Tutmarc was first. No amount of arguing will change that fact.
Whether it caught on or not is immaterial to that fact.
When God realized that Tutmarc wasn't going anywhere with his invention, he planted the seed in Leo's Brain and that gave birth to the Almighty Fender Bass. So that means that Fender is God and that answers the question posed by this thread.
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What? No SX vs. Squier vs. MIM vs. MIJ vs. MII vs. MIC vs. MIA vs. Custom Shop vs. Sadowski vs. Lakland vs. Alleva-Coppolo soundbites yet, daring you to pick out the SX with $2k worth of mods? 
Bingo! And what Dark Horse said.
I've said it many times ..... I'm a "Fender" guy .... but I shudder when Fender itself states that Leo invented the electric bass.
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