What? No SX vs. Squier vs. MIM vs. MIJ vs. MII vs. MIC vs. MIA vs. Custom Shop vs. Sadowski vs. Lakland vs. Alleva-Coppolo soundbites yet, daring you to pick out the SX with $2k worth of mods?
I am glad at least someone got the joke!!!
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Explain me the 'Fender is God' thing
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I am glad at least someone got the joke!!!
This whole thread is funny. I think there's too many serious people out there (I got your joke).
From some of the totally outrageous claims the SX fanboys always post on this forum. If it was a few people, that would be cool....but overwhelmingly, people on this forum believe SX basses to be the greatest thing since the adult diaper! And I still laugh when I read the crazy posts from these people, making the claim that "you can't tell the difference". And as hard as they try, I still think their whole purpose is to prove that they are such great and awesome bassists that they could take a lump of driftwood and slap some Barts or Nordstrams on there and sound awesome. Why else would they leave the Sadowsky at home yet bring the SX to the studio? (and in case you think I am joking about the hyperbole involved in these posts, just search the SX club thread) (yeah, part 1 AND 2!)
For the record, I have never played any American Fender that wasn't an excellent bass. It's my go-to bass. It never lets me down.
Fenders are fine - if you want to sound like a majority of other bass players. I think Fender makes honest products and I have no problem with them. I used one for years, so I understand what they do (and what they don't).
I prefer basses with more sonic variety and more personality to their sound - and Fender doesn't do that nearly as well as several other brands. Find what sound, looks, features and touch fits - and go with it. Listen and play!
I prefer basses with more sonic variety and more personality to their sound - and Fender doesn't do that nearly as well as several other brands. Find what sound, looks, features and touch fits - and go with it. Listen and play!
Maybe it's just me, but I think Leo's design is just so much sexier. He was a true visionary.
Tutmarc's Post-War Serenader Electric Bass (Guitar) circa 1948
Tutmarc's Post-War Serenader Electric Bass (Guitar) circa 1948
It is absolutely a fair comparison, if you are looking at why the Fender bass endured and went on to become the industry standard, while the Tutmarc bass faded into obscurity.
All of this is very true, and it is directly relevant to why Fenders even today continue to be held in such high regard by many players. Leo Fender established the Fender Bass as the industrial standard.
I am not arguing that fact. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? I have already acknowledged that Tutmarc had an electric bass before Leo Fender. But that is not relevant to the question at hand, which is why Fender's basses have enduring popularity even to this day, while Tutmarc's are unknown even to the vast overwhelming majority of bass players.
You keep trying to prove a point that is not in dispute.
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Sorry, but I've read all these SX threads here on TB too and you're exaggerating.
A lot.
I've also read some of your posts on SX's and you definmitely have an anti-SX bias. It also seems funny to me how you decide to try and hijack a thread about Fenders and if they live up to their hype and turn it into an SX bashing session.
yeah, that's very true. i sound pretty darn good playing whatever cheap piece of crap someone throws in my hands. got a cheap piece of crap? send it to me and i'll record you something that sounds really good.
but i prefer a good fender, too.
I wish people would just stfu about things they don't like unless they can put it intelligently. I'd be willing to bet that many of the people that bash certain basses haven't spent much time playing what they're bashing either. If they did, then they'd be able to discuss/list both the negative and positive features of the instrument(s) rather than just slam it to Hell and back.
I remember being in a mom and pop music store many moons ago when I was still learning how to play and hearing someone say "it doesn't matter if you have the best gear money can buy, because if you suck, none of it will make you play any better, you're still going to suck."
Dunno why that stuck with me but the guy that said it was (to quote a line my My Cousin Vinny) "Dead on balls accurate."
That's a HUGE assumption. I don't buy it. It sounds great and it's definitely fan club approved "idol worship" of said artists, but I think if Jamerson or Jaco was playing a wash tub bass we wouldn't be talking about them. Jamerson's sound was unique (as was Jaco's) and part of that sound was the instrument itself.
In the interest of full disclosure: I admit I don't hate Fender instruments.
Fender isn't "God".
"God" is "God".
Fender is, however, the "industry standard" for basses and guitars, like it or not.
"God" is "God".
Fender is, however, the "industry standard" for basses and guitars, like it or not.
Oh, I am just an ok musician. But I still think I sound better on a good quality bass.
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I am of the opinion that you have to be both good, AND use good quality gear. It's a point I made on the SX threads before: Top race car drivers don't drive a Yugo, unless it is heavily modded!
Now, if you can't afford great gear, that's not your fault. I toiled for years on basses (when I was a teenager) that had no name on the headstock (so bad no one wanted to take credit for them, I guess!). Basses that sounded dull, muggy, un-inspiring! But now that I am an adult and can afford better, I try to play the best, practical bass I can afford. An American Fender pretty much fits the bill.
The sarcasm part comes from the fanboys that are trying to pull a fast one, and say that despite having boutique basses and higher end Fenders (Pre CBS or modern custom shops) they STILL use the SX in the studio or on a pro stage...it's my opinion they are trying to make some sort of point on this forum...because it is only on this forum that you see the SX adulation to this degree. I am not aware of most pro bassists using them for anything other then target practice or "who" style demolition at the end of a set!
Oh, I know...play what you want! But just as it is a bit ridiculous to claim these things are the be-all-end-all (and the fanboys DO claim that!) it is equally ridiculous to claim that Fenders are crap, or not iconic, or whatever the fark the original poster was trying to say with this strange, sad thread!
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We're going to agree to disagree on this. The bulk of the talk about both of them I've seen on here has been primarily about their skills and not their overall tone. Though their tone has been discussed as well.
I too don't hate Fender.
fenders arent that awesome, the hype is just hype in my opinion. I prefer warwicks to most fenders. Maybe guitar places keep pushing them on you because its their most carried brand of bass. Its all your own opinion though, some people pay 14000 for vintage fenders. Maybe there is an actually reason behind that.
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