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Fakin' it - All the way from China......

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bassplayer8953 said:
and yeah, you missed the whole point...glad you're done.
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There wasn't a point - owning something you've bought thinking it was something else isn't the same as owning something you use to get high or you use to kill tens of thousands of people. There's no comparison, they were stupid examples to use and you know it.

SnakeKappele said:
Well, it turns out it is illegal - even in China.

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Now that's cool.
 
#103
I think his nuclear argument was pure hyperbole but his pot argument--while not fully coinciding with guitars--does have some merit in that the law does not care if you believe or even claim an item is one thing. If it's illegal, it's illegal no matter your understanding or belief of the situation.

Oh, and that link on Gibson's site showing pics of fakes vs real shows that this tradetang head on the LP isn't right... not even close when you compare.

I knew something didn't look quite right with that inlay.
 
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There are a lot of differences, minor ones, visually.

It's a shame, if these counterfeiters made their own brand of instruments I would genuinely be interested. I mean, my Squier came out of the Cort factory in China (i believe) and it's a great bass. It's good to see that there was progress with a big counterfeit bust, but unfortunately when you read a report like that, the problem is already at massive proportions.
 
#105
gus1894 said:
So I guess you can probably find a lot of good instruments, if you can deal with the counterfeit aspect - I haven't made that decision as of yet.
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I understand you posted this as an interesting topic.

I have strong feelings against supporting this type of crooked company. Some customers come out satisfied with their counterfeit and others are being blatantly ripped off. Of course the buyer is to blame too, but the company should be held accountable for making them available to begin with.

How many people in the lifetime of just one convincing counterfeit are going to be hurt as the instrument is passed on? I know of two in my town already impacted by just one floating around. As long as these companies are supported, even out of curiosity, they will continue to operate. I feel that when a company like this is exposed, that we can all take personal responsibility to help our fellow brothers and sisters by blowing the whistle and not support them. Whether or not you agree is up to you, but I don't even like giving them any publicity.
Just wanted to clarify as well. :)
 
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Jim Dep said:
Same here.
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It definitely sux. I personally tend to be very sceptical when buying, but know I have read enough posts where people have gotten screwed on fakes. I think it's actually good that this thread may get a lot of reads - thereby possibly raising awareness of what to look for in a fake. While my bud will end up stuck with his fake b/c he would not feel comfortable with selling it, he is definitely the minority. I hope he likes it!

Somebody mentioned earlier that this draws a fine line that could be crossed where SX or the like could be drawn in the same light, but I can't see it, they are offering their version of a P bas or Jazz bass, etc.... if they could be considered a counterfeit then so could the likes of high end builders who make their own versions if a P or a Jazz. Personally I'd have no issue spending my dollars with SX.
 
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Hi.

arginator said:
If you look carefully at the Gibson logo, it looks like there's a piece missing from the top of the O, making it look like a U sort of. So technically it could say "Gibsun." Is this how they can skirt around any counterfeitting laws? At least it's a way to spot a fake.
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OH..MY..GOD :eek:.

Every single silk-screen logo Gibson I have had over the years including the ones I still have, have been all fakes :crying:.

hdracer said:
The Gibson logo has a open "O", not quite so pronounced as that. It caught my eye too but then I went and looked at mine. That is a little off.
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Fortunately someone actually has such an instrument and isn't afraid to say so ;).


Obviously there's lots of differencies between the fake and the real thing, and the serial number produces a deep sigh on the other end of the line if You call Gibson. They know wery well that every one of these fakes sport the same serial number.

I'd be willing to bet that the other fakes have the same S/N's respectively.

Thanks for posting, an interesting read.

Regards
Sam
 
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gus1894 said:
It definitely sux. While my bud will end up stuck with his fake b/c he would not feel comfortable with selling it, he is definitely the minority. I hope he likes it!

Personally I'd have no issue spending my dollars with SX.
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+1
I hope he does too and hangs on to it. I was just concerned that if he was really knocked out by it that it could encourage others to jump on the wagon. That's an individual decision with a strong "buyer beware" attached.

With a company like SX, there is no deception, just a good deal, plus we've got Kurt as the middleman who takes care of his customers.
 
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seismic said:
Give them a generation and they very well could be producing competitive instruments, much like the Japanese have.

I am old enough to recall when 'made in Japan' was synonymous with pure junk and people willingly laughed at the ugly little cars from Datsun and Toyota.
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Ditto. Japanese meant junk. The Chinese on the other hand seem to have learned from that and the build quality is way higher. I own more than a few Chinese basses and parts and have been surprised thus far.
 
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