It does sound good, I enjoyed one when I had it.
They do pop up in the classifieds here from time to time, I can't imagine they would be that hard to find if you really wanted to track one down.
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FAVORITE FUZZ?
- Thread starter Nighthound
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It does sound good, I enjoyed one when I had it.
They do pop up in the classifieds here from time to time, I can't imagine they would be that hard to find if you really wanted to track one down.
The Ampeg SCR DI with just a touch of the Scrambler for some warm sizzle, an Ibanez PD7 Phat Hed, an EHX Bass Big Muff Pi and a Way Huge Swollen Pickle all on the same board. Sometimes I add in the EHX Bass Blogger...
loving my diabolik more and more... Just laid down a track with it that went from funky to FUNKAY
So far the Univox Superfuzz and the EQD Sound Shank. But if I want it to sound good in a band situation and to have some low-end I really need to push the level really high so I run both with an LS-2 to keep the volume at human level and in order to retain some dry signal in it.
I like the wooly Mammoth too but I don't have much use for it.
Also I don't own them but I really love the sound of the Mica fuzz and the EQD Hoofreaper.
You should really read this 'no effects' trolling in the Effects forum
before writing your pointless comment.
I like the wooly Mammoth too but I don't have much use for it.
Also I don't own them but I really love the sound of the Mica fuzz and the EQD Hoofreaper.
You should really read this 'no effects' trolling in the Effects forum
before writing your pointless comment.
Your description applies 100% to my Chicago Stomp Works Green Russian Clone. (Except for the size) It's a straight ahead clone, no mods, and its wondrous. Small enclosure, under $100. So far, I haven't met a fuzz I didn't like.
Teijo K.
Commercial User
I built this some months ago, and its been my favorite since. Invalid Link Removed
Unlike the green russian clone I made, and couple others I've tested, the Bazz Fuss cuts always trough, even if the band has two guitars and keyboards. Love it. And its so simple. One knob for volume. Got it.
But I have not played around with fuzz that much, so there is still a lot for me to try out. My favorite might still change many times. Not like od, that I have actively hunted for over 20 years. I am really new to fuzz on bass.
Unlike the green russian clone I made, and couple others I've tested, the Bazz Fuss cuts always trough, even if the band has two guitars and keyboards. Love it. And its so simple. One knob for volume. Got it.
But I have not played around with fuzz that much, so there is still a lot for me to try out. My favorite might still change many times. Not like od, that I have actively hunted for over 20 years. I am really new to fuzz on bass.
Never was much of a fuzz guy but I gotta say that I am thoroughly enjoying the Wood Chipper I got a while back.
I have yet to hear a clone that sounds quite like the original Muff. Not saying yours isn't awesome, just that the components used are a huge factor in how the pedal sounds and you can't get the exact, Russian-made components of an original EHX big Muff pi anymore. So while a lot of companies clone the circuit, and do it quite well I'm sure, it won't be the exact same. Of course, this doesn't mean the original is the best one, it just has "that sound". Sort of like and Ampeg svt just has "that sound".
I'd personally love to find a good clone in a smaller chassis.
Teijo K.
Commercial User
The problem might be, that the tolerances in the Russian factory were reportedly huge. So they pretty much used whatever parts happened to be at hand for a given patch. All the original Green Muffs have slightly different sounds. So even if a cloner matches his or her clone to sound exactly like one original Green Russian, it will not sound the same as any other Original Green Russian. Cloning a pedal that has that amount of variation, is probably a major headache.
All the users compare the clone to that one particular pedal they happen to have, and report that the clone is not sounding like an Original Green Russian. When actually there is no "Original Green Russian sound" at all. They all sound different. At least thats my theory on the matter.
I have two fuzzes - one I built myself from a grand total of 7 components, it's full on, nasty, spikey, blown speaker kinda noise with just a volume knob. Its fun, but impossible to mix into a band.
So I bought the EHX Bass Nano Big Muff Pi and so far love it. Easy to make it sound good, and the absolute best thing (undoubtedly in many more fuzz pedals) is the dry switch that lets your dry sound through untouched, which means compared to my home made pedal the bass never vanishes into the guitar sound.
So I bought the EHX Bass Nano Big Muff Pi and so far love it. Easy to make it sound good, and the absolute best thing (undoubtedly in many more fuzz pedals) is the dry switch that lets your dry sound through untouched, which means compared to my home made pedal the bass never vanishes into the guitar sound.
I have read this many times, and while I have never held a Green Russian, I have no reason to doubt it. I have also read that one thing the Green Russians tend to have in common is a robust bottom end, making them well liked in the bass world. Of all the muffs I've had the pleasure of playing, original vintage and various clones, my Green Russian clone has the most prominent big bottom, yet still articulate and defined, combined with that creamy, harmonically rich fuzz. So regardless of the real world variables, my Russian muff stands apart from all the others.
The Russians probably aren't even sure what all they used in their Muff pedals. "But Commissar, it is hard to work with mismatched parts and big boxes!" "HA! In Russia, pedals build you!" But if you want modern analogs...
- Stomp Under Foot makes a whole selection of pedals based on the various Muffs. Their Green Russian is a Bubble Font clone; the Ram's Head and Civil War (which you can get as a dual unit) follow those versions of the Muff. Those are just the ones I know about off the top of my head.
- Wren & Cuff makes their Tall Font Russian, which is exactly what it sounds like: a Tall Font clone. I personally don't like the mismatched knobs (Muffs always had three identical knobs) but that's a minor beef.
- Black Russian Muffs are still commonly available for reasonable prices on Reverb. If you want a modern version, I am told that the EHX Bass Big Muff is based on the Black Russian. I owned a BBM for a while and wasn't blown away by it, but YMMV.
- Stomp Under Foot makes a whole selection of pedals based on the various Muffs. Their Green Russian is a Bubble Font clone; the Ram's Head and Civil War (which you can get as a dual unit) follow those versions of the Muff. Those are just the ones I know about off the top of my head.
- Wren & Cuff makes their Tall Font Russian, which is exactly what it sounds like: a Tall Font clone. I personally don't like the mismatched knobs (Muffs always had three identical knobs) but that's a minor beef.
- Black Russian Muffs are still commonly available for reasonable prices on Reverb. If you want a modern version, I am told that the EHX Bass Big Muff is based on the Black Russian. I owned a BBM for a while and wasn't blown away by it, but YMMV.
GASing for the ZEUS...
Kiwi Tang!
Fuzz me.
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Kiwi Tang!
Fuzz me.
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I can dig it.The problem might be, that the tolerances in the Russian factory were reportedly huge. So they pretty much used whatever parts happened to be at hand for a given patch. All the original Green Muffs have slightly different sounds. So even if a cloner matches his or her clone to sound exactly like one original Green Russian, it will not sound the same as any other Original Green Russian. Cloning a pedal that has that amount of variation, is probably a major headache.
At least thats my theory on the matter.
If I am picking one, it has to be the W&C Tall Font Russian. In 25 years of playing, getting this pedal a few years back was a light bulb moment, and the first fuzz that I really clicked with, plus it plays so well with my other pedals...
I have tried a lot of fuzzes before and since getting the TFR, and the only pedal that to me comes close is a Malekko Diabolik. Totally different beast, but I love it. So yeah, those two are my faves. Running the diabolik into the TFR sounds huge
I have tried a lot of fuzzes before and since getting the TFR, and the only pedal that to me comes close is a Malekko Diabolik. Totally different beast, but I love it. So yeah, those two are my faves. Running the diabolik into the TFR sounds huge
Well, there's pfat fuzz, for that TAFM and Pharaoh, and there's fizzy fuzz, right now Attack Goat and crackly fuzz, Fuzzhugger Arc Flash. But there's something in the mail tomorrow that might change things or not. (One Ton Bee) From a demo video seen here of course. In the past there were others...I remember a season with the Ruiner before we parted ways due to instability... Attack Goat was even put in a box for a while and then rediscovered. They don't get jealous of each other like women and cats do, at least as far as I know.
Yep that describes the original one too. It can actually even BOOST your low end. It's harmonic content is so rich that when the distortion knob is cranked and the tone knob is at around 10 or 11 o'clock it gets so deep and saturated sounding that it literally turns all your notes into rich creamery butter. It is absolutely gut-wrenchingly thunderous and then you have something to spread on your bagel for a snack. So double win.
I have heard a lot of good things about the W&C tfr. I'd like to get one to compare with the original.
