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fEARful Part Ten (10)
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tocs100
Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com
Let us know how this goes. I'll do a review of my 15 Sub after our upcoming mid-April show. I'll A/B it against my Carvin Neo-15 in a Sonic Mini-cab (about 2/3rds the size of the FEARful). No contest really, but I like the Carvin as a 300-400watt drum monitor, and the Neo-15's are still just $99 at the Carvin site. I could imagine them doing 500w rms (like the 3015) in a bigger cab.
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Tough room. 
Cell phone pic while setting up to practice this weekend's set, and I didn't want to take a couple moments in photoshop to straighten it out since its a crappy pic anyway.
The important thing is that this was the first night using the IPR/IP rig. I ran each cab off of a different channel, with roughly 450w per cab at 8 ohms. Even with this bump in wattage (from the LMII which was feeding the rig ~250 per cab) it was a very big difference. Much clearer and cleaner, it felt very big and solid and full. I wasn't pushing the amp very hard (attenuators set at 11 o'clock) and my bass rolled back to about 50%. It was obvious that there was potential for being really loud. In fact, it was hard to recognize how loud it really was because it is so clean and controlled. With the LMII when I dug into my bass I'd get some breakup. Not so with this setup.
I honestly was surprised that I was getting such volume from this amp setup, going one cab per channel. I was ready to be unimpressed until I bridged.
Cell phone pic while setting up to practice this weekend's set, and I didn't want to take a couple moments in photoshop to straighten it out since its a crappy pic anyway.
The important thing is that this was the first night using the IPR/IP rig. I ran each cab off of a different channel, with roughly 450w per cab at 8 ohms. Even with this bump in wattage (from the LMII which was feeding the rig ~250 per cab) it was a very big difference. Much clearer and cleaner, it felt very big and solid and full. I wasn't pushing the amp very hard (attenuators set at 11 o'clock) and my bass rolled back to about 50%. It was obvious that there was potential for being really loud. In fact, it was hard to recognize how loud it really was because it is so clean and controlled. With the LMII when I dug into my bass I'd get some breakup. Not so with this setup.
I honestly was surprised that I was getting such volume from this amp setup, going one cab per channel. I was ready to be unimpressed until I bridged.
When running one cab without a mid, plus one with a mid, is there any reason to have the mid-driver in this orientation vs having the 15/6 rotated so the mid-driver is on top? Just wondering if having it up higher would be good/better/different(?) for projection? Looks to me like the 15s would line up vertically in either orientation.
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Thanks. Last night it was obvious to everyone what a big difference having big power on hand really is.
Whelp, I'm guessing altogether its probably in the 20ish pounds range. The Kern is easily the heaviest element, the IPR is 7 pounds and the rack is around 6 or six pounds I think.
The flip was a suggestion from Greenboy. Having the mid that high put it right up by my ear. I was finding that I was rolling it off more than I probably should have since it was so close, then out in the room it was less than I really wanted. By lowering the mid I don't attenuate it as much and its more even at a distance.
A pair of mirror image 15/6 Tube cabs.
Not the prettiest but these are the most solid cabs I ever built. Using mostly pipe clamps now which have incredible power. (Using them as spreaders as well.) Anyway, had alot of fun building these and still learning.
Not the prettiest but these are the most solid cabs I ever built. Using mostly pipe clamps now which have incredible power. (Using them as spreaders as well.) Anyway, had alot of fun building these and still learning.
That is awesome... the ultimate fEarfulish rack head - light & tight with clarity and punch all the way down.
They look just fine to me! I can't wait to get my grubby paws on 'em.
Now if only I had ordered all my drivers a few weeks ago.
When I built my BFM cabs, I wrapped the tolex over the front lip, about 1-1/4 inches. It was a clean wrap all the way around the face with no protrusions to notch around.
My fearful 15/6 tubes will be made without the grill standoff trim pieces. So I can get a clean wrap-over of the tolex all the way around the front lip, can I cut the shelf and port divider back 1.25" so they are flush with the face panel without altering the 15/6's performance?
My fearful 15/6 tubes will be made without the grill standoff trim pieces. So I can get a clean wrap-over of the tolex all the way around the front lip, can I cut the shelf and port divider back 1.25" so they are flush with the face panel without altering the 15/6's performance?
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Foz said:
That's what I'm going for. The comments I got last night suggest that I'm on the right track. Our guitar player said he'd never felt anything like it outside of being at a big show and standing in front of one of the PA stacks. The clarity of the sound is unlike any other bass rig and is very deceptive in that you don't realize how loud it is because it doesn't have any of the wash or mess or distortion you normally get at high volume. And finally my low notes have as much behind them as the rest of my bass.
I do believe the shorter the port shelf, the higher the tuning.
From greenboy's website...
"That said, in a 15/6 adding an inch of shelf depth takes the tuning about 1.6 Hz lower. Adding 2" takes it about 3 Hz lower, and adding 3" takes it 4.3 Hz lower. You can see that the amount of Hz per inch diminishes as one adds more. That's due to box size getting consecutively a little smaller for each inch of shelf added."
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I would think that by shortening it by 1.25" it would raise the tuning about 1.8 to 2.0Hz higher. Not something I would do.
I get this problem with my LMII and Pbass. At first it was driving me crazy, I thought it was the cab, then I realized it was probably the head. And it doesn't happen as much when I put the VT pedal in front of the LM. I am actually conteplating try to to trade the LM for a Carvin BX1200, or maybe just running my Tone Hammer into a poweramp.
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