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Fearful Part 14: one better than 13!

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Hey Guys I just posted this in the fEARful club page so i thought i would put it here too!! I thought i would let you all know that i am going to be heading to the Washington for my Vacation this year And i am taking my 15/6/1 and B2000 head with me so if there is anyone who wants to give a fEARful a good running through just let me know!! I am Going to be down in Walla Walla Washington from about April 3rd to the 12th or soo and Up in Tacoma Washington near Seattle from about the 27th of march to the 2nd of April!! Just PM me your number and we can setup a time for you to come try it out!! Feel free to bring your own amp and bass if you like!! Hopefully Get to see some of you soon!! Cheers All!!
 
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barryaudio said:
Ok, I'll be on the "other side" of this. I notice it very much. But...this may be my particular setup and style of playing.

I gotta agree with what Robby is getting at here. IMO, a high-low switch is must more appropriate (for those that may be adding cabs for different gigs). for those of you that are adventurous, once you find out the level that works for you, pull out that variable lpad and replace it with a fixed.

A variable lpad for bass MI use is overkill. It's perfectly appropriate to get a rough adjustment with a fixed lpad and do the rest with EQ. However, for some reason the variable lpad is a security blanket so I guess it has become standard.
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I'd be curious to test that. Playing loud upright, it can be pretty dang different from night to night, eq-wise, at least...am looking for the simplest solution though
 
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barryaudio said:
A variable lpad for bass MI use is overkill. It's perfectly appropriate to get a rough adjustment with a fixed lpad and do the rest with EQ. However, for some reason the variable lpad is a security blanket so I guess it has become standard.
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Maybe. My goal is to have the cabinet as flat as possible so that when I send a signal to the FOH, I can make a determination about the tone from what I hear through the cabinet that will translate effectively to the FOH. If I start using the L-pad or other switches as tonal options, then I defeat that purpose.

That being said, I didn't even bother wiring in an L-pad. My tweeters are full on all the time. When I get time I might pink noise the cabinet and see what that looks like and make a determination from there.
 
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I use mine quite a bit actually. Usually off. On a little bit for a few things. Up a bit more for some synthy stuff. And up a lot (but not all the way) for full range playback.

I could easily get by with an on/off switch, between off and a predetermined fixed pad. But the knob lets me do whatever I want, whenever I feel like it. And it's there. So I use it.
 
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edwinhurwitz said:
Maybe. My goal is to have the cabinet as flat as possible so that when I send a signal to the FOH, I can make a determination about the tone from what I hear through the cabinet that will translate effectively to the FOH. If I start using the L-pad or other switches as tonal options, then I defeat that purpose.
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I hear ya. Especially if you have EQ with plenty of control.
 
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NicJimBass said:
In the last thread, I asked for some help with amp choice, as it seems my GK 1001RB-II's preamp distorts when turned up past 9 o'clock, which in turn makes me have to turn up the Woofer knob to about 2 or 3 o'clock in order to get some good volume.
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Above is an issue I had a while ago, thinking there might be something wrong with either my head or cab. Turns out, it was my basses that were distorting, or, rather, the preamps. I recently acquired a couple US Peavey Millenniums, which have 18 volt pres in them. They have yet to distort at all, no matter how hard I play. Last night, I rewired one of the basses that was distorting on me to 18v, and *poof* the distortion was gone, again, no matter how hard I played. The added headroom of going to 18v made all the difference in the world to me.
 
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Just placed an order for a 15/6 and 15/6/1 kit from Leland. I'm jumping all in. :bassist:

Probably gonna start an "Idiot's Guide to Building fEARfuls" on the forum. I just don't understand half of what you guys say. I always played around on things and tweaked things to find out what sounded better but I never really paid attention to WHY things changed. Never knew about ports and all that kinda jazz. I also have little to no building experience. I can follow directions (lego kid) but my carpenter friend who's going to help me had to explain biscuits and simple building stuff like that to me.

I think there's a lot of people as ignorant as me out there who can't afford to build a fEARful and who are shying away from them....hoping displaying my stupidity can help them make a move. :hiding:
 
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You wont be disappointed. In fact when that whole rig is done you will plug in and play and think to yourself "W. T. F. why was I toting around that heavy crap for so many years?" It will also change your playing in a good way. Your technique will matter more, little changes can have big results. Same with your EQ and effects settings.

MSUsousaphone said:
Just placed an order for a 15/6 and 15/6/1 kit from Leland. I'm jumping all in. :bassist:

Probably gonna start an "Idiot's Guide to Building fEARfuls" on the forum. I just don't understand half of what you guys say. I always played around on things and tweaked things to find out what sounded better but I never really paid attention to WHY things changed. Never knew about ports and all that kinda jazz. I also have little to no building experience. I can follow directions (lego kid) but my carpenter friend who's going to help me had to explain biscuits and simple building stuff like that to me.

I think there's a lot of people as ignorant as me out there who can't afford to build a fEARful and who are shying away from them....hoping displaying my stupidity can help them make a move. :hiding:
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CL400Peavey said:
You wont be disappointed. In fact when that whole rig is done you will plug in and play and think to yourself "W. T. F. why was I toting around that heavy crap for so many years?" It will also change your playing in a good way. Your technique will matter more, little changes can have big results. Same with your EQ and effects settings.
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Haha...I was already thinking that last night. I just changed from an Eden Nemesis head to a Mesa Boogie Strategy 400 and Ashly SC-40 preamp. I still have my Eden 410 left and it sounded SO amazing. Couldn't go too loud. Didn't want to damage stuff I'm selling...but man I can't wait to get this fEARful stuff up and running. And when we were packing up and I was lifting my 96 lbs 410 down some stair I kept thinking....it'll be half this weight in a month or so. :hyper:
 
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MSUsousaphone said:
Just placed an order for a 15/6 and 15/6/1 kit from Leland. I'm jumping all in. :bassist:

Probably gonna start an "Idiot's Guide to Building fEARfuls" on the forum. I just don't understand half of what you guys say. I always played around on things and tweaked things to find out what sounded better but I never really paid attention to WHY things changed. Never knew about ports and all that kinda jazz. I also have little to no building experience. I can follow directions (lego kid) but my carpenter friend who's going to help me had to explain biscuits and simple building stuff like that to me.

I think there's a lot of people as ignorant as me out there who can't afford to build a fEARful and who are shying away from them....hoping displaying my stupidity can help them make a move. :hiding:
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No one was stupider than I when it comes to such things, and I did it.

BurningSkies - TalkBass Wiki
 
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Thanks, BurninSkies.

That's a pretty nice article you have. Lots of good pics. I'll probably have it pulled up as I'm building mine. Kinda wish your woodworking guy's post still existed on that other forum. Did he follow the guidelines to the letter? There's a lot of variants out there and little tweaks people put....I'm trying to not look at those so that I don't start following 4 different blue prints. :)
 
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I think I can say with confidence that I'm stupider than BurningSkies. :D

And I was able to build mine from a cut kit. Turned out great, and I had no woodworking skills at all. I took my time, and I think I am proof that pretty much anybody can do it if they are careful.

There's a lot of build threads you can learn from on the fEARful site. Here's mine: Sumit's First fEARful 15/6/1 build
 
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Come on guys, you know that I'm both stupid and a jerkhole. :D

MSUs...Use the plans as currently available on Greenboy's site. Use the most current components listed and crossover plans. Don't use any backdated plans or older versions. There are a bunch of ways to put together a cab, in the same way that you do a jigsaw puzzle. Think about it and do what's easiest for YOU to do. My cab has a bunch of things going on in terms of building that don't need to be done, like pockets for the screws, etc. Not needed. You can do well with PL Premium glue and butt joints and a whole bunch of clamps.

My cab was made years ago, and greenboy has simplified some things and done some changes...don't follow me, follow him.

Also, edited to add that really any questions about building can be answered on the greenboy/fEARful message board. That's really the place to go. If you're really lummoxed by the building, you can have an authorized builder make a raw cab or a finished cab for you, or you can work from one of the Speaker Hardware kits if you have a little more confidence. Also Leland can sell you all the parts, completed crossovers, etc.
 
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