Doug Parent
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Marc Serio was the only one I ever heard of pulling any stunts and ripping people off. Everyone in the TB community at the Greenboy / Fearful / Fearless authorized builder level are solid folks.
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fEARful?
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Marc Serio was the only one I ever heard of pulling any stunts and ripping people off. Everyone in the TB community at the Greenboy / Fearful / Fearless authorized builder level are solid folks.
My 15/6 is the 'Tube' config, and I did the rice test after I built it. Came in right at 47Hz.
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Passinwind
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fEARfuls have never had Faital drivers, you may be thinking of the FEARLESS (sic) cabs.
There you go. No googlefu required. Sheesh, why not accept the designs are optimised for the drivers by now? Plug in, boom. Not many come up for sale. What does that tell you? Anything that was ever flavour of the month comes up all the time.
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You actually made me look at my build threads - the 15sub was done in 2013, and the first 12/6 was done early 2014, followed by another 12/6 mirrored and a 12/6 cube currently in use.
My personal take is the DIY aspect. I started with BFM Jacks specifically for efficiency, but heard, and found out, fEARfuls go deeper. Yeah, you can throw a lot of power at them, in a good way. . . Watts are cheap. I was concerned about the lack of "plans" and instructions like BFM, but that's where the forum is invaluable.
As for performance, when people come up after and say "The bass sounded good!" believe me it's not because of my ability, especially my genre, which is guitar/ukulele/vocal centric.
And, you have a cab that no one else in the area has. Well, we have a couple fEARfuls now, and I heard there's a fearless on the island. . .
***?
Its a free DIY cab design = there are no sales.
Definition of FREE
And as to your whinging about "openess"... well, greenboy's intent was to offer a free design based on his ideas on how a bass cab ought to be built, not to start a circus of argument with nit picking nincompoops on the internet. In the plans everything is spec'd right down to what kind of glue to use. There is nothing to calculate, just follow the instructions. A moron could do it - you should give it a try.
I would say GNU/Linux, OSS and free software is a good example that what greenboy is doing is free and open. I've had my hands on Linux desktops and servers since the early 1990's and don't remember any free software packages that offer detailed engineering specifications, performance specifications or guarantees of any kind. Many of the better packages for what I do have a commercial component. The commercial component funds the free version while doing much of the work for you and/or offering more refinement. Nagios and FreeNAS are good examples. winISD is a good example of free software that works well and comes with no real support or source code. Just a download, and even that isn't even on their website if you want the current version.
Most of the Linux distributions and OSS packages only come with community support until money changes hands.
OSS has the source code freely (analogous to speaker plans) available. You are welcome to download it, open it up and figure it out for yourself. You may or may not get a little help with this from the developers, but few would spend hours and hours teaching you the intricate details.
fEARfull, just like free software, is what it is, you can look it over, decide, and take it or leave it.
The Nitpicking Nincompoops are touring with Whining About Openness next summer. I think their bass player, Moron, is using a fearful.
I built my first fearful a few years ago and as soon as I plugged in my five string I was convinced I would never want another cab, the strength and clarity of the low end are unmatched by any other cab I have used( 30-40 of them) and since I built them myself I can have faith that every build joint and wire connection has gotten my full attention, you never have to worry about getting that "last one built on a Friday afternoon" model.
speaker hardware.com can put everything you need in one box for the build and they are excellent to deal with and from what ive read their precut flatpack kits are very high quality and are probably slightly simpler than building an ikea book shelf but with a few more tools and a room big enuf to cut up a sheet of plywood then a scratch built cab isn't that hard either
the 1212/6 is the easiest cab to move that I have ever owned, with built in wheels on the bock and a handle on the top back edge I just tilt it back with my head on top and roll it around with one hand like a vacuum cleaner and it has slides on the back for stairs and stages
Master Blaster........
speaker hardware.com can put everything you need in one box for the build and they are excellent to deal with and from what ive read their precut flatpack kits are very high quality and are probably slightly simpler than building an ikea book shelf but with a few more tools and a room big enuf to cut up a sheet of plywood then a scratch built cab isn't that hard either
the 1212/6 is the easiest cab to move that I have ever owned, with built in wheels on the bock and a handle on the top back edge I just tilt it back with my head on top and roll it around with one hand like a vacuum cleaner and it has slides on the back for stairs and stages
Master Blaster........
Don't be fearful about ordering a fEarful cab sight unseen. If Ed Friedland says it's a great cab then it's a great cab.
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Trendy, me trendy - ha you must be joking, I'm 65 and cynical as they come.
When I realised my bass cab was not up to scratch I spent a long time looking round for a replacement. I reviewed Barefaced, I liked the look of them but wanted DIY. BFM seemed ok and I nearly bought some plans but then found Greenboy's fEARful, downloaded the 15/6 plans and saw that they were simple to build if you could measure to reasonable accuracy and saw to a line so I grabbed an 8X4 sheet of ply and soon had the box built.
Living where I do there was little chance of trying one first so I took a leap of faith and am very glad I did, it has cured my cab GAS for good.
My only regret is that I built the 15/6 not the 12/6. I later made a 12/6 for a side project and ended up using it with my main band because it has sufficient SPL when driven with enough power (GK MB800 now, previously an ART PC II + Peavey IPR1600) and is smaller and lighter.
Obligatory picture from a recent gig.
When I realised my bass cab was not up to scratch I spent a long time looking round for a replacement. I reviewed Barefaced, I liked the look of them but wanted DIY. BFM seemed ok and I nearly bought some plans but then found Greenboy's fEARful, downloaded the 15/6 plans and saw that they were simple to build if you could measure to reasonable accuracy and saw to a line so I grabbed an 8X4 sheet of ply and soon had the box built.
Living where I do there was little chance of trying one first so I took a leap of faith and am very glad I did, it has cured my cab GAS for good.
My only regret is that I built the 15/6 not the 12/6. I later made a 12/6 for a side project and ended up using it with my main band because it has sufficient SPL when driven with enough power (GK MB800 now, previously an ART PC II + Peavey IPR1600) and is smaller and lighter.
Obligatory picture from a recent gig.
The subs are the same internal volume and tuning as the woofer portion of the full range cabs.
What is hidden? Go down load the plans, or the 3-d models, and some simple math tells you everything.
Its "Whinging About Openness" and you are correct, Dick D. Moron is using a 66 - I triple-dog dared him!
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Passinwind
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The fEARful thing has never really been Open Source, except for the crossover designs in the very early days before Dave Green took on that task as well. Dave's mantra is pretty much "either follow the free plans as presented or DIY."
The fEARful thing has never really been Open Source, except for the crossover designs in the very early days before Dave Green took on that task as well. Dave's mantra is pretty much "either follow the free plans as presented or DIY."
The fEARful cabinet design was a community project insofar as it was vetted by those with an interest, myself included. However, I have never had the impression that the fEARful cabinet was an open design.
