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Girls can do anything guys can do except piss on a campfire. This conversation should end right about....HERE.

Only after this life-changing and deeply empowering tutorial.

How to piss on a campfire as a human who does not contain a penis:

1. Ensure that bladder is quite full and urge to release is strong. This will ensure a strong stream, thus preventing urine to cling to skin, travel to butthole, and pitifully drizzle between feet.
2. If pants are on, they must unfortunately be entirely removed. If shorts are worn that have stretchy fabric or a sufficiently loose leg opening, grip the part that covers the crotch with one hand and pull it (along with underwear) completely to the side, thus exposing the entire crotch area from front to back.
3. Take a wide legged stance and thrust pelvis forward.
4. Using free hand, place one finger on either side of clitoral hood and pull firmly upward. This will serve to direct the stream forward and away from lower body parts.
5. Enjoy a confident release! If it starts weak, you may experience some minor drizzling (don't worry! It's only a little urine). You'll notice that you can use your piss-assisting hand to direct the stream in any direction you please, and even enjoy "crossing streams" with fellow campfire extinguishing friends.

Enjoy the newfound freedom ;)
 
The problem with bringing Carol Kaye into a conversation like this is that no one even knew she existed until something like ten years ago. So, yes, she was out there doing this way before most of us but she wasn't known, she was a studio cat, she was doing a job that literally meant that the work she did was being viewed as having been created by others, and she was living a reality as such that most of us never experience. The *perception* always was, back in the day, that this was a primarily male job.

Don't get me wrong, I give her major props for her contributions and ability. But I don't think we can say anything was ever "settled" on this the day she recorded her first bassline.
 
:) Being raised as a "gentleman" and being considerate towards women in the ways you mentioned are not the same as doing what is fair and what is equitable. I'm *not* saying you are a bad person, so please try to not be offended by what I'm saying here. *People* shouldn't hit *people*, not just men shouldn't hit women. If a woman hits you, she should be held accountable just the same as if a man hits a woman or another man - under the law. Don't tease *people*, not just don't tease the girls. Physically weaker boys/men or men who like to date men also apply to this rule, as do your totally straight and muscular bros who might be struggling with a heavy load, a wardrobe choice, or a mental health issue. Leaping in to help women with lighting cigarettes, standing up when they enter the room, or carrying heavy boxes for them is exactly what perpetuates the idea that women are victims, weaker, and need to be coddled and cared for by men, which is exactly the opposite of what feminism has been trying to achieve. It's about people treating people like they are people, period. Not a different standard for women than for men or vice versa. One standard, for all people. If you are kind in these ways to all people, then continue to do so. If you're doing it because they are women, that is what feminism is about getting people to stop.

Your intentions have been kind, and kind intentions matter. I truly hope I have not offended you. I know it seems difficult and even sometimes perilous to navigate, we are all entrenched in our upbringing to varying degrees, but it really isn't complicated - it may be difficult, but it isn't nearly as complicated as it is often made out to be.

:standing ovation:
 
Only after this life-changing and deeply empowering tutorial.

How to piss on a campfire as a human who does not contain a penis:

1. Ensure that bladder is quite full and urge to release is strong. This will ensure a strong stream, thus preventing urine to cling to skin, travel to butthole, and pitifully drizzle between feet.
2. If pants are on, they must unfortunately be entirely removed. If shorts are worn that have stretchy fabric or a sufficiently loose leg opening, grip the part that covers the crotch with one hand and pull it (along with underwear) completely to the side, thus exposing the entire crotch area from front to back.
3. Take a wide legged stance and thrust pelvis forward.
4. Using free hand, place one finger on either side of clitoral hood and pull firmly upward. This will serve to direct the stream forward and away from lower body parts.
5. Enjoy a confident release! If it starts weak, you may experience some minor drizzling (don't worry! It's only a little urine). You'll notice that you can use your piss-assisting hand to direct the stream in any direction you please, and even enjoy "crossing streams" with fellow campfire extinguishing friends.

Enjoy the newfound freedom ;)

I won't ask you to hold my beer. I will toast you with my beer, and join the firefighting brigade. :grin:
 
you either play or go home. gender has nothing to do with it. no one in my 'jazz circles' cares about anything but the playing.

edit: the cool thing about jazz = no gender issues, no race issues, no class issues....
Read "From Potent to Popular: The Effects of Racism on Chicago Jazz 1920-1930", by Lynne Seago, for a wildly differing view on this very statement. It may be your circles are like this, and that's great, but to say jazz has no issues like those above is not entirely true.

I won't link it because of all the racial terms included and quoted in the article.
 
What I really needed from this thread was the spectacle of women in their 60s pissing on women in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s.

Note my level of complete unsurprise to see how these posts found favor with the older men here at TalkBass. :rolleyes:
Huh? I fail to see any of that here. What exactly did you find disempowering in what I wrote here?
 
Read "From Potent to Popular: The Effects of Racism on Chicago Jazz 1920-1930", by Lynne Seago, for a wildly differing view on this very statement. It may be your circles are like this, and that's great, but to say jazz has no issues like those above is not entirely true. I won't link it because of all the racial terms included and quoted in the article.
yeah, a lot of 'bleak' scenes in the history of life as we know it! my circles aren't really paying much attention to the 'social'/societal of 100 years ago. we don't even play music that old, bro.

i made i a general statement about the jazz i've played all of my life. you cats can either relate or you can't. if you can't: jump on in! you'll get real free, real fast! it's 'cool' in that way...just players, no games. :D
 
Did you even read the OP? He did not make the distinction to make it, he made the distinction to point out that it no longer has merit. He was saying that we should just make a great musician a great musician, not point out gender or follow them because we are dirty old men (an even more prevalent stereotype these days). Let's not grind our axes, but (to use a stereotype of my history) 'bury the hatchet'.

Leave the axe grinding to the metal players!
 
Until the day I die, I will hear- She's good ....for a girl. I can't even get annoyed any more. At least it means someone noticed there IS a bassist in the band.

Ugh. SO sorry you've had to put up with that. I guess because of my parents I just grew up thinking anyone good at something was good at something. When I first hit my teens (1968) I began to realize just what an oddball I was.
 
Girls can do anything guys can do except piss on a campfire. This conversation should end right about....HERE.

There's actually something available that lets you do that as well. So you can do everything a guy can do except naturally impregnate someone. OTOH, there are several things you can do that guys can't do. So if guys are dumb enough to look at it as a competition... they lose.
 
The problem with bringing Carol Kaye into a conversation like this is that no one even knew she existed until something like ten years ago. So, yes, she was out there doing this way before most of us but she wasn't known, she was a studio cat, she was doing a job that literally meant that the work she did was being viewed as having been created by others, and she was living a reality as such that most of us never experience. The *perception* always was, back in the day, that this was a primarily male job.

Don't get me wrong, I give her major props for her contributions and ability. But I don't think we can say anything was ever "settled" on this the day she recorded her first bassline.

I agree with your thesis here, but those of us reading Guitar Player in the late 1970s (at least) were introduced to Carol Kaye. But yeah, a lot of readers seemed to skip the bass stuff, never mind the "chick bass"[1] stuff back then.

[1] The phrase I used to hear, generally in a derogatory tone.
 
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