I see you've never been to a Cleveland Browns game, at the old stadium...
... not too many campfires, but you're good as gold if you can hit a urinal from 10'.
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I see you've never been to a Cleveland Browns game, at the old stadium...
... not too many campfires, but you're good as gold if you can hit a urinal from 10'.
I never saw the point of saying "female bassist" because you're not going to know the gender of the musician just by listening unless they're singing (and even then...)
they can depending on the campfire or the amount of singed hair they are okay with
I'm saying that the determination of sex/gender should be coming from the person themselves, not the projection of what I think your gender is. I / me should be the pronouns with gender specificity rather than third person pronouns. I think we have it backwards in the current iteration of the English language.
Gail is one of the nicest people I ever met... And she's from Philly!
I do wonder if she still has a record deal as a solo artist? Her earlier stuff wasn't given enough promotion in the States...
Experience and familiarity matter no matter the context.
Yes, you are correct.
As a plus though, just this Friday I was interviewed for and received a job (non musical related). During the interview, I was told the reason I was instantly given the interview (ahead of other candidates) was because of my 'exceptional phone etiquette.'
Really? I thought being polite and saying "yes ma'am" and "no sir" was the norm.
So I am not going to change the way I speak or act (not that anyone implied I should) just to try to try to join a band. Hopefully one day I will meet like minded people!
As of last Thursday, the new reigning holder of the Blues Music Award for bass instrumentalist is Danielle Nicole.
I don't blame you. Frankly, the person who responded to you like that is a far bigger tool, IMO.
The gender-neutral third person pronoun has been attempted for a long time, back to the 1800's even. Third-person pronoun - Wikipedia
I think we're starting to gain traction now with the singular they. It doesn't sound odd now if I say something like: "When a bassist shows up to a gig they should be fully rehearsed and ready to play." It wasn't that long ago when we would have said: "When a bassist shows up to a gig he/she should be fully rehearsed and ready to play.", but then there were objections to that. But, it was a step up from the usual: "When a bassist shows up to a gig *he* should be fully rehearsed and ready to play."
The invented pronouns are unlikely to catch on as you can see in the link above that there have been many proposals over time and none gained any traction. They/their/them seems to be catching on as a singular pronoun.
As far as music goes I consider gender a completely irrelevant distinction for anything other than a vocalist. And only because it makes for differences in range and timbre in much the same way as there are differences between a flute and an alto flute.
I agree. Now how about you giving it a try.
Basic rule of etiquette when participating in an online discussion: Try not to offend - and try not to be so bloody easily offended.
I use 'Hello' for non-formal quite often, 'Dear Sir or Madam' for everything else even if I am 90% sure I know the gender of the recipient because it might go to someone else. I'd be happy if there was a gender-neutral word in common usage.
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You mean there isn't a separate award for lefties??
Unfortunately, the concern someone might have with being perceived as a “tool” - or more seriously, being accused of something without being afforded due process or right to rebuttal - is already having the unintended consequence of making businesses and groups reluctant to involve women at all in order to sidestep the gender issue altogether.
No easy answer to that evolving scenario I’m afraid. Every action has a reaction. And as one social activist attorney put it to me, there’s no such thing as “no collateral damage” or unintended consequences when attempting to address cultural or social issues. The unfortunate truth is it almost always comes down to picking who is going to end up bring treated unfairly at the end of the day. She said there’s no point in kidding yourself nobody is going to get hurt should push come to shove. Someone has to take the hit. And you have to decide who that someone going to be, and how to live with the fact you too have hurt someone remaking the world to better match your ideals.
I admire her. She’s a realist as well as a deep thinker who operates under a highly developed personal ethical framework. Refreshing in this day and age. As well as rare.
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