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Fender Blacktop Club

#83
Malak the Mad said:
Plus/minus 20-25% of what? Sorry, but electronics were never my strong suit. I can get most gadgets to sit up and bark for me, but once you open up the casing it may as well be run by elves, alchemy or scientology.
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Well all caps have a variance. In better caps like the Orange Drops by Sprague, the variance can be as little as 5-10%. In the cheaper caps (like most imports use) the variance can be as great as 20-25%.

What you need to know is that the higher the value the more treble will bleed to ground and vice versa. So a .047 will be darker than a .022. If you want bright and clanky, try 500K pots and a .022 cap.
 
#84
StrangerDanger said:
Well all caps have a variance. In better caps like the Orange Drops by Sprague, the variance can be as little as 5-10%. In the cheaper caps (like most imports use) the variance can be as great as 20-25%.

What you need to know is that the higher the value the more treble will bleed to ground and vice versa. So a .047 will be darker than a .022. If you want bright and clanky, try 500K pots and a .022 cap.
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Many thanks! Consider us even for the photo-shoppery you requested.

I've read up a bit on the Electronics section and that seems to grok with what I've read there, only you put it in terms I can wrap my enfeebled brain around. :p

I may go for a .033 cap…something to split the difference between both treble and bass. My local guitar tech recommended Oil-Paper brand to me, so unless someone sees this and say "Noooooooooo!!!!", I'll likely grab one. Besides, if it still sounds too muddy I can always have a .022 put in. We'll see, ya?
 
#85
Malak the Mad said:
Many thanks! Consider us even for the photo-shoppery you requested.

I've read up a bit on the Electronics section and that seems to grok with what I've read there, only you put it in terms I can wrap my enfeebled brain around. :p

I may go for a .033 cap…something to split the difference between both treble and bass. My local guitar tech recommended Oil-Paper brand to me, so unless someone sees this and say "Noooooooooo!!!!", I'll likely grab one. Besides, if it still sounds too muddy I can always have a .022 put in. We'll see, ya?
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Oil in paper is fine, just dont pay too much. Definitely less than $10.
 
#86
StrangerDanger said:
Oil in paper is fine, just dont pay too much. Definitely less than $10.
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Hmm…can't seem to find them for less than $10. There are similar ones, but knowing my luck, they'd be the wrong types. So that, plus re-reading what you posted about the variance of the Orange Drops, perhaps I will go for them instead. Plus, I hear others raving about them too. Besides, the tech says they have them in stock anyway, so no shipping (yay!).

You may now return to your previously un-diverted thread.
 
#87
Here's mine. Got it in September last year. Mail ordered through GC site unseen. Great purchase. Have only had to straighten neck and adjust bridge after putting new strings on. Why would you guys spend extra cash to change the pots and stuff? They work just fine. Adjust amp settings they are already there.
 

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#89
Johnnywad said:
Here's mine. Got it in September last year. Mail ordered through GC site unseen. Great purchase. Have only had to straighten neck and adjust bridge after putting new strings on. Why would you guys spend extra cash to change the pots and stuff? They work just fine. Adjust amp settings they are already there.
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Nice! I'm glad you like it.

For me the high mid clank was too much and it sounds much better to me with the 250K pots but YMMV.

You're number 6!



Fender Blacktop Club Members
#1 StrangerDanger
#2 ShadowVampyre
#3 Fair Warning
#4 unclebass
#5 StephenDaRacket
#6 Johnnywad
 
#92
StrangerDanger said:
Nice! I'm glad you like it.

For me the high mid clank was too much and it sounds much better to me with the 250K pots but YMMV.

Really. I have found that when I am being aggressive with the E string I get a bad clack almost like the string is hitting the pickups. Had luthier adjust everything. Still getting the clack. I believe it may b the string hitting the frets at bottom of neck. Any suggestions?
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#94
Johnnywad said:
StrangerDanger said:
Nice! I'm glad you like it.

For me the high mid clank was too much and it sounds much better to me with the 250K pots but YMMV.

Really. I have found that when I am being aggressive with the E string I get a bad clack almost like the string is hitting the pickups. Had luthier adjust everything. Still getting the clack. I believe it may b the string hitting the frets at bottom of neck. Any suggestions?
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Its very hard to make a suggestion without playing the bass to see/hear what you're talking about but maybe lowering the neck pickup would help.
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#95
StrangerDanger said:
Its very hard to make a suggestion without playing the bass to see/hear what you're talking about but maybe lowering the neck pickup would help.
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Maybe the truss rod needs a little adjusting too? I had a Jazz that was buzzing all the time on the E-string. I took it to my local tech for a set-up, making sure to mention the buzz. He took one look at it, adjusted the truss rod…and violá! No more buzz!
 
#96
Johnnywad said:
Hey stranger it looks bad ass blacked out like that. Only thing I'm adding to mine is a black hipshot. Just to b totally one of a kind
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Thanks!

It was a bit of a hassle; to change every single piece of hardware, down to the pickguard screws and neckplate, I had to order the different parts from several vendors...

But it was well worth the effort! :)
 
#97
Malak the Mad said:
Maybe the truss rod needs a little adjusting too? I had a Jazz that was buzzing all the time on the E-string. I took it to my local tech for a set-up, making sure to mention the buzz. He took one look at it, adjusted the truss rod…and violá! No more buzz!
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Had that done recently. I think it is just the way I attack the strings. Also had pickups lowered.
 
#98
Vince Klortho said:
Lack of versatility ? I have no idea what you mean. I am able to get a wide range of tones from mine. In the music I am playing I end up dialing down a lot of the bite but it's certainly there if I want it.
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Yea, StrangerDanger was right. Just to be clear, I haven't played one in person (our local guitar shops suck). It's just two humbuckers with only volume controls isn't nearly as appealing to me as the option to go H/H, H/S, S/S with coil taps. That said, I have no doubt it can get some great tones. I'm still interested in one, but just haven't bit the bullet yet...
 
#100
Does anyone have any sound clips of the Blacktop P, specifically soloing the neck pickup with a lot of tone for a punk sound?

I play in a rocky punk band, and I cant' decide if a Blacktop P or J would be better for my situation. I'm not real picky for body shape or neck; I'm more concerned with the tone.
 

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