Enjoy the benefits of a premium membership!
Upgrade Account
-
TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
Join free Log in
Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.
That bass is as special to someone as the Fodera or Alembic you think they should have got. And that is the very nature of a custom shop bass(fender, sadowsky, Lakland, Fodera, etc.). One persons dream bass is another's horrible creation. You get to design something unique(or mostly so) that may not appeal to everyone. Somebody wanted that bass that way, or I doubt a master builder would take the time to make it.
That bass may play like a dream, who knows?
I cannot address your feelings about the fender company. Personally, I have had a couple dealing with fender and had no issues. They were helpful.
They must be doing something right to be in business this long.
Can't help ya with Phoenix either..lol. My sole experience in Phoenix was a flight layover.
Don't mind me. My first bass was a Japanese P-Bass and I loved it. But, when I started getting into playing more complex stuff and wanted more notes, I really wanted 24 frets, and you know how that goes with Fender bass. I got disillusioned knowing what a chore it would be to get my hands on a Jazz V 24, and starting trying other stuff. I mean, realistically, if Fender made production 24 fret basses, I may still be playing one today and be a diehard Fender fanboy. I still think they're beautiful instruments, if not the most.
But shoot, to spend so much their money putting together these absolutely dog ugly customs and catering to collectors moreso than everyday players, that kinda rubs me the wrong way. 25k for that Game of Thones Dragonglass??!! Gimme a break. I mean, imagine how many rare, vintage, and/or quality instruments you can get for that?
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to play or what their dream instrument should be.
But, I mean lots of companies that make mediocre products stay in business for a long time. Since the dawn of the 20th century and advent of modern Freudian influenced marketing and PR, the way companies go about sale products and service been more about image than function. And, I mean, Fender built a solid image and brand, and that's hard to tarnish.
I can't help but wonder how many people were like me when I was younger thinking Fenders were where it's at without having tried much else.
But shoot, to spend so much their money putting together these absolutely dog ugly customs and catering to collectors moreso than everyday players, that kinda rubs me the wrong way. 25k for that Game of Thones Dragonglass??!! Gimme a break. I mean, imagine how many rare, vintage, and/or quality instruments you can get for that?
I'm not trying to tell anyone what to play or what their dream instrument should be.
But, I mean lots of companies that make mediocre products stay in business for a long time. Since the dawn of the 20th century and advent of modern Freudian influenced marketing and PR, the way companies go about sale products and service been more about image than function. And, I mean, Fender built a solid image and brand, and that's hard to tarnish.
I can't help but wonder how many people were like me when I was younger thinking Fenders were where it's at without having tried much else.
My 'cheapest' - price wise..is a G&L LB100 with at Stellartone tonestyler installed in it...my most pricey..a Wal. Each bass has a place too me...I have many options in between and I USE them all. There are things that G&L can do that my others can't ..same as my Wal...same as my vintage Fender and same as my custom shop fender. I personally don't care how much a bass costs versus another...but if it kicks a$$ then I do some juggling and make it happen. What someone pays for something is irrelevant too me... I envy those who can swing the basses they love...regardless of cost. My CS Fender and my Vintage are near impossible to tell the difference tonally (blind test). So that must account for something special they do.
I totally feel that, it's about the instrument not the price. I was more judging what Fender spend their resources on. I'm sure they could still do a heaping amount of custom shops while rounding out their production lines more. They just make so much silly, superfluous crap on top of all the other good stuff.
Like, please instead of putting your resources into making partnerships with HBO, make us some 24 fret 5 strings!
Like, please instead of putting your resources into making partnerships with HBO, make us some 24 fret 5 strings!
I read his/her posts after the one you replied to, and they all seemed to me substantially out of place and not very pleasant ...
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts quarrels or upsets people on the Internet to distract and sow discord by posting inflammatory and digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a ...forum...) with the intentet of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion, whether for the troll's amusement or a specific gain. -Wikipedia
Let me post my dislike for Fenders in the Fender Custom Shop Club thread. Hmm.
Honestly, to me, these CS basses all have unique personalities. I probably played close to 10 custom shop precisions before I purchased the black '62 P Bass - that was my first. It sounds very aggressive, and cuts through the mix like nothing else. It also has a slimmer neck than some of the other CS Precisions that I played. I honestly wouldn't be afraid to play that bass in a metal gig. It was so ballsy and in-your-face that I decided to put TI Jazz flats on it, and it still cuts but has a wonderful punchy and warm tone now. This is the kind of bass that was made for flats.
The blue '59 P Bass is more naturally warm sounding. I left it with the roundwounds on because it sounded great as-is. I made a recording with this bass recently.
You can hear that the blue one is made for rounds. Overall, I'm impressed with that the custom shop has to offer, but I would always recommend that people play them in person to decide if the instrument is right for them. There's a lot of variation in tone among these instruments.
Just bought this to add to the CS59 P and CS64 J in the collection. 2015 CS Postmodern precision in graffiti yellow. I hummed and hawed for a while before going for it but have been looking for a J neck on a P for while and the pool is small here in New Zealand, especially in the used custom shop department. Took me a while to get the neck set up the way I like it but the tone is huge,definitely more punch than from other precisions I have owned over the years - probably due to the different bridge and stringing through body. Band members were instantly impressed with the sound which is always a good sign. Paint is aged quite convincingly and the tort sits nicely with the yellow IMO:
My CS '64 Relic has that same tone description, a lovely note defining punch, but no special bridge or string through. I've tried to figure out why this sounds so good. I've sort of decided that the CS hand-wound pickups may be the special sauce. I don't think they can be purchased separately. If anyone knows better please let me know.
I have a CS 64 J too, and this P is different to it. I do know what you are talking about though as my 64 is punchier than I normally experience with a jazz, I had put it down to the fact that it has a roasted neck and body.
Hey does anyone know the Fender pickup height specs to use for the Custom Shop basses? The Vintage or Standard P specs?
Yes, 7/64 for the E and A string and 5/64 for the D and G string.
That is measured from the top of the pole to the Bottom of the string with the strings Fretted at the last fret.
That is the spec and the starting point you may want to tweak it from there
Edit: correction! Those heights are for standard J and P pickups.
Vintage pups are 8/64 and 6/64.
That is measured from the top of the pole to the Bottom of the string with the strings Fretted at the last fret.
That is the spec and the starting point you may want to tweak it from there
Edit: correction! Those heights are for standard J and P pickups.
Vintage pups are 8/64 and 6/64.
Last edited:
Got this one in May 2019 and posted in this thread that it was awesome. Broke my left hand a couple days before Halloween, so I couldn't play for eight weeks or so. Started up again right before New Years. This bass is still awesome. Can I get a number?
Its the Sean Hurley Signature '61 P.
