• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Fender Decals On Non-Fender Basses

Status
Not open for further replies.
#765
smcd said:
They'll all sell their counterfeit basses. The reason they put a Fender decal on it is because, despite what they claim about their basses being "better than a Fender", what they really want is a genuine Fender. One day they'll be able to afford one, and the fake will be out the door on it's way to some unwitting buyer.
Click to expand...

That's great, except for the fact that I do own 3 genuine Fender instruments (all American) and my parts bass (which is made from Fender and warmoth parts plus a badass 3 bridge and Lindy Fralin pickups) cost a lot more than any of them. To me, the decal is just part of the look. And I'm not telling anyone that it came from the Fender factory; all my friends know the story behind this bass because I have been posting pics of the parts as they arrived in the mail on Facebook. Nor do I ever plan on selling this bass, so you can't say I did it for resale value.
 
#767
I would assume:

- They don`t have money enough to buy a real Fender.
- They wanna make a cheap bass look like a real one, just for fun
- They`ll sell it later, claiming it`s a true Fender.
 
#768
Tacopastorius said:
That's great, except for the fact that I do own 3 genuine Fender instruments (all American) and my parts bass (which is made from Fender and warmoth parts plus a badass 3 bridge and Lindy Fralin pickups) cost a lot more than any of them. To me, the decal is just part of the look. And I'm not telling anyone that it came from the Fender factory; all my friends know the story behind this bass because I have been posting pics of the parts as they arrived in the mail on Facebook. Nor do I ever plan on selling this bass, so you can't say I did it for resale value.
Click to expand...

I get that. The logo is a part of the look, and if it's mostly Fender, it makes sense to use that logo. Besides, I would hate for someone to see a blank headstock on a Fender parts bass and ask what kind of bass it is and have to go through a big explanation. It's a FENDER.
 
#769
plangentmusic said:
I get that. The logo is a part of the look, and if it's mostly Fender, it makes sense to use that logo. Besides, I would hate for someone to see a blank headstock on a Fender parts bass and ask what kind of bass it is and have to go through a big explanation. It's a FENDER.
Click to expand...

Thank you. I think folks just need to understand that while trying to use a Fender decal to fool people into thinking you have money or to rip them off on a sale are certainly deplorable motivations, there are valid reasons to use the decal if you are honest about it.

Oh, and I have a Fender amp too. So I would say I have been a pretty solid customer of theirs over the years. :)
 
#770
Nobody said:
I was a gassin' fur a best versatilest bass withy no sustain(who needs the sustain anyhoo) for duh metalz \m/ :bassist: and tha oblivious choice was a Squire Classic Modifide Jazz w/ Chromes but my job is being sexy and it doesn't pay the moneys so I can't uhfford the Squire so found this thread and the idea hit me on the top of my head on how to reach all my dreams and goals!!!!! I took my ordinary run of duh mills bass guitar and I transforms it into my bass that I never knew I was always dreaming about. Well enough of the chit chat I now present you with my decaled up super bass of awesome.
Click to expand...

This thread has beeen providing me with plenty of entertainment - watching the arguments and justifications spin round and round and round without any prospect of resolution. But this is bordering on absolute perfection in encapsulating everything that's been grinding on for 30+ pages. Nobody - I salute your satirical genius! I laughed until it hurt...
 
#776
smcd said:
They'll all sell their counterfeit basses. The reason they put a Fender decal on it is because, despite what they claim about their basses being "better than a Fender", what they really want is a genuine Fender. One day they'll be able to afford one, and the fake will be out the door on it's way to some unwitting buyer.
Click to expand...

And when the fake is sold or resold, these are the same people who blame the unwitting buyer for "not doing their homework" and "caveat emptor" and all the rest of it...
 
#777
Posted this on another thread, just something to chew on. Putting anything BUT a Fender Decal on a Ball and Flag headstock is an infringement on Fenders Copyrights. This is why builders like Ibanez,Hohner,Tokai,Tom Andeson, etc had to change the shape of thier headstocks. Putting a decal with your name or any other brand name on a Ball and Flag headstock is the infringement, if Fender decides to take legal action.
 
#778
Bone said:
Posted this on another thread, just something to chew on. Putting anything BUT a Fender Decal on a Ball and Flag headstock is an infringement on Fenders Copyrights. This is why builders like Ibanez,Hohner,Tokai,Tom Andeson, etc had to change the shape of thier headstocks. Putting a decal with your name or any other brand name on a Ball and Flag headstock is the infringement, if Fender decides to take legal action.
Click to expand...

Hmmm,... what about Squier?

The builders you mention didn't have to change the headstock because of the label, the Fender Strat-type headstock design is copyrighted.

Nash is a great example, he actually was shut down temporarily until he started sourcing Fender-licensed necks. Now, he legally sells strat-type clones with a Nash logo.
 
#779
I tried to stay out of this pointless thread, but it keeps making its way back to the top. In the spirit of uselessness, here are some musings:

Fender allows John Bolin to apply Fender decals to the guitars and basses he makes for Dusty Hill and Billy Gibbons, so apparently it's alright to do so on non-Fenders. Or maybe just Bolins. Or maybe just Bolins with enough exposure.

Poseur is actually spelled poseur.

My CS '62 Precision, which was made 20 miles and 46 years from a real one, has an inaccurate headstock decal, using a gold color for the word "Fender". Gold spaghetti logos were only used on guitars, not basses. Some of the counterfeiters are aware of this, while the company that bought the Fender name apparently is not. Some of these evil counterfeiters also have a much better selection of available decals than Fender. If you had the right year of guitar or bass (say a '63 P), if you got a replacement decal from Fender, you'd have to settle for good enough. So there's another market for replacement decals that's been seemingly overlooked here.
 
#780
Bone said:
Posted this on another thread, just something to chew on. Putting anything BUT a Fender Decal on a Ball and Flag headstock is an infringement on Fenders Copyrights. This is why builders like Ibanez,Hohner,Tokai,Tom Andeson, etc had to change the shape of thier headstocks. Putting a decal with your name or any other brand name on a Ball and Flag headstock is the infringement, if Fender decides to take legal action.
Click to expand...

Poppycock.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back