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#43
dman_113 said:
Hey Doc,
Didn't he copyright the headstock's though, I think thats why aftermarket necks carry the "LIC BY FENDER" stamp and the bodies dont?
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Believe it or not, Fender sued Leo for using that headstock when he created G&L basses. The company decided it was their trademark. After this, numerous bass companies had to create unique headstocks.

Or something like that. :)
 
#44
colorblindbass said:
well Jim, all im saying, is that your statements are slightly broad.

im a bassist that plays fenders, not production, all are franken basses.

i have two, a Jazz and a Precision.

the necks are not fender, yet i have applied fender Decals to both.

the quoted statement is just rather closed minded,
your almost saying that if you play fake fenders, your a fake bass player, and that in the time you spent applying the decal you could be practicing.

Jim, my two basses sleep in bed with me, and my life is devoted to them, i carry the jazz to class with me every day, in highschool.

are you telling me that i have a fake relationship with this bass?



no offence intended at all-
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That's not what he's saying at all?!?!? I think what he's getting at, or questioning, is why are bassplayers, or anyone for that matter, wasting energy worrying about what name is on our headstock(s) rather than how well we are playing our instruments?
Those of you who don't see it that way, answer this: If you had an MIA Fender who's decal had faded, or scratched off, or you're restoring an old vintage bass or whatever... Would you replace it with a Squier logo? Why not? What about your own name, instead of a Fender logo? Again, why not? Is it sense of pride? Is having that Fender logo almost a badge of honor? You bet it is. If you don't have a Fender bass, do you really have a right to have that Fender decal on the headstock? (This is not a bash against Squier basses or SX basses, or any frankenbasses who's headstocks have been altered to resemble a Fender--they're all great basses). The reason most people put the Fender decal on a non-fender bass (notice I used the qualifier "most") is because they're embarrassed they're not playing a "real" fender. I think what Jim was originally saying (outside of the legal ramifications), and correct me if I'm wrong, is that instead of worrying about the decal, worry about the player.
 
#45
I dont mean to offend anyone or anything, but if I am to be perfectly honest, I must say that I fully intend to buy a fender decal and use it as I see fit. I didnt post this topic as a soapbox for people to get "holier-than-thou" about their loyalty to fender or anything. I posted it so I could fine a site online that sells fender decals. and i have now done that. personal ethics, plain and simple.

thanks
 
#46
Vin_MM_Sabre_79 said:
..So you're putting the decal on because you like the "look" of the Fender cursive logo? Not because you want people to think its a Fender?

If you were to resell this- most buyers wouldn't know about half the points you mentioned there- and might not even notice the other half.

Would you remove the decal if you sold it?
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1) I like the look of a Fender style headstock on a Fender style body. The P/Tele shape was all I could do with the existing amount of wood, but I still think it looks better than the Ibby headstock with the J body. The extra decal was going nowhere other than ebay and the head on the SX/Ibby JB looked like a good spot to put it. It looks more complete than without a decal. The only thing Fender about the bass is the pair of ebay Geddy Lee pickups. A nice used sunburst SX JB was on ebay and I snagged it, then I sold the SX neck and pickups

2 & 3) I have no intentions of ever selling this bass. I love it, and it was somewhere around $200 after all the horsetrading. It has AllParts black plastic JB knobs, a rotary switch for cap selection, a rotary switch for pickup selection, and a push/pull pot for series/parallel and volume while looking bone stock. I'll die owning this bass. I've never tried to pass it off as anything other than a parts bass, and I wouldn't trade it for any Fender bass IF I had to keep it and play it.
 
#47
This is one of those threads where I usually say "i'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole"... but a thought:

I have a MIM Jazz bass. 3 years ago I put a warmoth fretless neck on it. It's a rosewood/rosewood combo, so it's a big brown headstock. Fender has never/probablywillnever put out a neck like that. But it's licensed BY fender. If I were to put a fender logo on it (which I'm not--at this point I'm used to the blank headstock, though I wasn't at first) what would be the legal implications of this? There USED to be a fender logo there; it's a fender product with an addition. Thoughts?
 
#50
Bass Mule said:
That's not what he's saying at all?!?!? I think what he's getting at, or questioning, is why are bassplayers, or anyone for that matter, wasting energy worrying about what name is on our headstock(s) rather than how well we are playing our instruments?
Those of you who don't see it that way, answer this: If you had an MIA Fender who's decal had faded, or scratched off, or you're restoring an old vintage bass or whatever... Would you replace it with a Squier logo? Why not? What about your own name, instead of a Fender logo? Again, why not? Is it sense of pride? Is having that Fender logo almost a badge of honor? You bet it is. If you don't have a Fender bass, do you really have a right to have that Fender decal on the headstock? (This is not a bash against Squier basses or SX basses, or any frankenbasses who's headstocks have been altered to resemble a Fender--they're all great basses). The reason most people put the Fender decal on a non-fender bass (notice I used the qualifier "most") is because they're embarrassed they're not playing a "real" fender. I think what Jim was originally saying (outside of the legal ramifications), and correct me if I'm wrong, is that instead of worrying about the decal, worry about the player.
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You and Jim make good points. However, I see nothing wrong if he digs the fender look. People here have been posting about 'should I get matching wood knobs' or 'wood control cavity covers'. It's not my thing, but I understand people who do care about them, because at the end of the day, they're the ones who have to look at their basses and be satisfied. I've changed the knobs and, heck, even the plastic end of the toggle switch on my RBV just coz it looked better to my eyes. I think everyone has a little streak of vanity. It's only human. Does that mean I pay less attention to my playing. Far from it. Now I cannot condone someone trying to pass off a Squier as a fender and selling it for more, and I don't get that impression from the original poster. And although I think it is a tad tacky to put on a different name on a bass, I couldn't care less that he doesn't feel this way. Plus, he initially really didn't ask for our opinions (although of course I think it's great that we speak our minds), but asked directly where he could find fender decals. The first few posts would've sufficed.

To hitman, I'm sorry I didn't answer your question, though I believe someone already did. Also, don't be too slighted by other people's opinions. It's the 'risk' that is posting in forums, one that I actually find really cool. Box of crayons, aren't we?
 
#51
hitmanhbk1992 said:
Hey everyone,

Does anyone know where I can buy Fender decals online? I want to put one on the headstock of my Squier VM fretless jazz. If anyone could answer this I would be very appreciative.

Thanks.
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This was the question. Who cares why hitmanhbk1992 wants the decal?

If you don't know where he can buy one or don't agree with him buying one, don't post.

Sheesh! Why do these threads always seem to turn into 3-4 pages of ethics commentary?:rolleyes:
 
#54
I put one on a Squier neck, big 70's style strat head. Only reason I did this was 1) The original logo looked like crap, I could have done a nicer job with a magic marker 2) It was the same size as a small headstock logo, which looked way out of place. And since I'm no good with graphics, this was an easy way to do it.

Plus that it stops my guitarist taping over the logo when using it... :D

And anyway, I'm totally against ripping someone off, so I never touched the CIC and S/N part, and it still says squier on the neckplate.

And what is it with TB these days, whatever you post turns into a drama. Over in the BAII-thread things have gone really wild, after a dude asked about the pros and cons of a specific bridge? I mean, come on, if would have been a Hipshot A everyone would have acted cool, but no no, not when it's about a BAII, then it's all about sticking it to the man... Geez...
 
#57
ClassicJazz said:
Sorry, but putting on a Fender logo on a non-Fender bass is just as cheese-ball as buying a fake Rolex on the streets of NYC.

Yea you maybe fooling people......but in the end it is still not a REAL Fender!
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+1000

Geez what is with people...be happy with what you have, how does it sound?..I consider such behavior to be L**** e*** s*** of **** behavior. Your name goes in a file should you ever show up in the emporium selling Fenders....Obviously ethics is not taught anymore...
 
#58
hitmanhbk1992 said:
I dont mean to offend anyone or anything, but if I am to be perfectly honest, I must say that I fully intend to buy a fender decal and use it as I see fit. I didnt post this topic as a soapbox for people to get "holier-than-thou" about their loyalty to fender or anything. I posted it so I could fine a site online that sells fender decals. and i have now done that. personal ethics, plain and simple.

thanks
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But to many, the very thought you have is unethical for society, screw your "personal ethics" my friend....
 
#59
Baird6869 said:
This was the question. Who cares why hitmanhbk1992 wants the decal?

If you don't know where he can buy one or don't agree with him buying one, don't post.

Sheesh! Why do these threads always seem to turn into 3-4 pages of ethics commentary?:rolleyes:
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Perhaps because some folks don't understand ethics.

Ya know, if he just wanted a logo for his gig bag or a car bumper, it doesn't matter. But if it's for a guitar, it oughta be an actual Fender. It's the right thing to do.

And I hope that doing the right thing is OK with everyone?
 
#60
tkozal said:
+1000

Geez what is with people...be happy with what you have, hoies does it sound..I consider such behavior to be L**** e*** s*** of **** behavior. Your name goes in a file should you ever show up in the emporium selling Fenders....Obviously ethics is not taught anymore...
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I do agree with you but nobody seems to be bothering to read the initial post.:confused:

I don't recall the initial poster asking for opinions about if he is an a$$h0!e if he replaces his Squier logo with a Fender one.

It amazes me how a simple request for information at TB ultimately turns into this.
 
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