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Fender Dee Dee Ramone P bass

I would not get caught in the Fender marketing hype of this instrument.
Any P bass will sound like the bass Dee Dee played.
It's more about techniques which in his case was pick and downstrokes only.

If you want to get closer the Seymour Duncan SPB2 pickup would help and it is the pickup that shipped on these basses. I suspect it's also the pickup Dee Dee played late in his life but I am pretty sure this pickup did not exist in 1976 when the Ramones recorded their first record. In all likelihood, Dee Dee played a mid to late 70's P bass stock. These are generally heavy basses with thick finishes and a punchy kind of muted tone. Some might refer to this tone as the London calling tone (see the Clash).

Rather than looking at the reissue bass from Fender, I would research Dee Dee's actual instrument, choice of strings and technique and go from there. There's plenty of info on the internet and on Talkbass on this topic. It might get you closer to his tone than a reissue instrument from Fender.
 
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If anyone's interested, here's my NBD post from when I got mine. I also went ahead and took pics of each page of the 40-page commemorative booklet, and made a link to a slideshow of all the case candy HERE:


NBD: Fender Dee Dee Ramone Precision (pic heavy)

I am considering letting mine go. I haven't pulled it out of the OEM Fender gig bag since I opened it up and took these pics. It was an impulse buy at the time, and I have a regular favorite P already. So, if anyone's interested in an undisturbed DDR P with all original case candy and gig bag, PM me for details.
 
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I'm blown away that he completely omitted Vera. He wrote more about Connie, who o/d'd before he did.
There's a little too much information about certain things, like his roomates when drying out in rehab.

It's kept me entertained, but I think a LOT of people would complain about the writing.

I read Vera's book before this & sometimes she made him out to be quite foolish.
His book hasn't helped redeem him one bit.

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I'm blown away that he completely omitted Vera. He wrote more about Connie, who o/d'd before he did.
There's a little too much information about certain things, like his roomates when drying out in rehab.

It's kept me entertained, but I think a LOT of people would complain about the writing.

I read Vera's book before this & sometimes she made him out to be quite foolish.
His book hasn't helped redeem him one bit.

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There is so much in fighting and bulldoody in the Ramone family that there's no really telling what's truth and what is made up or omitted to serve the teller's position. BTW, did I tell you guys that I auditioned to replace Dee Dee in 1989? True! Got to play 15 of my favorite Ramones songs with Johnny and Marky. They let me pick them. I insisted on playing 'I Don't Wanna Go Down In The Basement' tho Johnny warned me that they had re-arranged it a bit ... he rattled off the edits, Marky counted it off, and left me to nail the changes! They played everything at least twice as fast as they did on record, too.
 
There is so much in fighting and bulldoody in the Ramone family that there's no really telling what's truth and what is made up or omitted to serve the teller's position. BTW, did I tell you guys that I auditioned to replace Dee Dee in 1989? True! Got to play 15 of my favorite Ramones songs with Johnny and Marky. They let me pick them. I insisted on playing 'I Don't Wanna Go Down In The Basement' tho Johnny warned me that they had re-arranged it a bit ... he rattled off the edits, Marky counted it off, and left me to nail the changes! They played everything at least twice as fast as they did on record, too.
Awesome!:thumbsup:
 
From 2012-2017 I worked at a big music store, we had a LOT of instruments go through, and I played a LOT of basses to make this opinion. The 4 Dee Dee Ramone basses that I got to play were absolutely fantastic. The neck is a little thinner, it's a low mass bridge, the pickup is some nameless fender thing, action on the neck was fast, and strangely made you want to really pound on the thing. Something about that run of basses was really well done. The one that I ended up with is one of the nicest Precisions (if not THE nicest) that ever came through the store in 5 years. It's decidedly a rock bass, but with flats and the tone rolled back a bit it's everything you'd want a bass to be. It's what has formed my opinion that Precision shaped objects shouldn't cost more than $1000, and that maple fingerboard Precisions are my jam.
 
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Just found this.

Features — 9
This bass is a limited run Mexican made Precision Bass that was released in the early part of this year and is limited to 1000 instruments world wide, I then bought it in May after my birthday. It features; a bolt on maple neck and fret board, an alder body, Fender Standard Precision Bass pickups, a Fender standard bridge, Fender Standard tuners, and a 30'' scale length. It's an extremely well made bass, as you'd expect, and has quickly over taken my other bass (a 2012 Retrovibe Vantage 4) as my favorite and is now what I use for any situation. It came with a set of 45-105 Fender strings (which I have been impressed by but not enough to switch from my normal Rotosound Swing 66 set) and a standard fender gig bag, it also featured an extremely interesting booklet about Dee Dee, a poster and a sticker of the image engraved on the neck plate (a version of the Ramones logo with a precision bass in the center) which I think were really nice things to be included with the instrument as a memorial to Dee Dee.

Sound — 8
I play in a rap metal band and a folk band, this bass copes extremely well with both genres despite only having one split pick up, a master volume, and a master tone. I currently play through a Fender Rumble 200 V3 and occasionally using a Morely Bad Horsey 2 Wah, both sound incredible with this bass. I can't imagine a musical situation where this bass would be out of place in, it's got a very classic tone which really would lend itself to any project that I may be involved with and I imagine that the pickups will lend themselves to any effect I may put them through. Personally I would have preferred the bass with a higher mass bridge as I feel it would have given it a thicker darker sound, but that is only a small alteration to make if I feel like it's really necessary and the bass doesn't sound bad with the standard bridge style. I'm also a big fan of maple fret boards on basses (both my main basses feature them) as I find it adds a really nice cutting sound to the overall tone so the fact that this bass featured one was a big bonus for me.

Action, Fit & Finish — 9
I've not altered the set up at all since buying this bass, it's been perfect my playing style (which is currently mainly pick based, however I do also play a lot of slap and finger style material when at home). One issue that I've had is that the pickup for the higher two strings is angled so that the A string rubs against it slightly during aggressive playing styles, but it isn't enough to make me want to adjust it to risk changing the sound of the bass. I'm extremely happy with the quality of finish on this bass as it's taken about two months of near constant playing in a metal band to slightly scratch the back with my belt, which I think is pretty good going even if i do prefer the look of worn instruments. The neck is also finished in a similar level of lacquer to the body, which at first I was apprehensive about but I've really warmed to it over the last few months as it just feels sturdier than some of the unfinished necks I've played in the past. This bass also weighs about seven and a half pounds which isn't as light as other basses but it's not that bad a weight to deal with if you have a stable enough strap and make sure you take care of your back. I used to get a lot of problems that my old bass would wear the skin off of my picking wrist due to it's flat edges, however the slightly curved edges of this bass and the way it sits on my definitely eradicates this issue so it's easier to play for extended periods.

Reliability & Durability — 10
I think it's generally unwise to gig without a back up in case of string breakages however if that wasn't a factor I would definitely perform using this bass with no back up, it is a P-bass after all so could probably survive an apocalypse with only some slight wear. The tuners are extremely reliable, I travel by bus and walk with this bass a lot and in the past couple of months it's not even fallen a semi-tone out of tune, which I'm extremely impressed with and I doubt I would every replace them unless they were to break somehow. As you expect from Fender the build quality is second to none, in the past couple of months of rigorous playing I've only just about managed to scratch the finish slightly and I've not found any faults in the overall quality. I'm especially impressed with the fret work on this bass, the frets themselves are extremely small compared to normal bass frets and it gives the bass an almost fretless feel, that then paired with the quality of the fret work makes the neck on this bass extremely comfortable to play for extended periods.

Overall Impression — 10
I honestly think that this bass would fit into any genre I would feasibly play in, as you'd expect of a Precision bass. I've been playing bass for about 4 years now and it didn't take any time to adjust to playing this bass at all, apart from setting my strap to the right height which is to be expected for any instrument. If this bass was somehow stolen or lost I would definitely try to track another one down or failing that try out basses until I found one just as comfortable, which would probably end up being another P-bass. Before buying this bass I had also looked at a Modern Player Jazz Bass and a Blacktop Precision Bass (both Fender) and they were both extremely good basses, but this bass just felt so natural to play that I didn't consider them as options anymore. The only thing I would consider changing about this bass is the mass of the bridge, which I would probably replace for a bada-s II bridge as I've heard a lot of extremely good things about them. However I'm a sucker for trying to keep the parts of an instrument as original as possible so I'm more likely to just save up and by another bass one day rather than edit this one (for example the Mike Dirnt Precision basses feature a higher mass bridge, and I'm also a big fan of the Rickenbacker 4003 series). I would definitely recommend that if anyone gets the chance to buy one of these basses to take it as they certainly won't be disapointed by the quality of the instrument or the sound
30" scale length? was it a shortscale or were pbasses always that short?
 
From 2012-2017 I worked at a big music store, we had a LOT of instruments go through, and I played a LOT of basses to make this opinion. The 4 Dee Dee Ramone basses that I got to play we absolutely fantastic. The neck is a little thinner, it's a low mass bridge, the pickup is some nameless fender thing, action on the neck was fast, and strangely made you want to really pound on the thing. Something about that run of basses was really well done. The one that I ended up with is one of the nicest Precisions (if not THE nicest) that ever came through the store in 5 years. It's decidedly a rock bass, but with flats and the tone rolled back a bit it's everything you'd want a bass to be. It's what has formed my opinion that Precision shaped objects shouldn't cost more than $1000, and that maple fingerboard Precisions are my jam.

Yeah - again I cannot say for sure, but it's evident that the MIM Road Worn basses get a bit more attention than the Standards (players, now I guess) and I believe the Dee Dee got the luxe treatment as well.