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Fender pre-CBS Club: pics mandatory!

#321
1SHOT1HIT said:
Idk, my kids eat just fine!
Paid $100 bucks for my 62! Definitely didn't break the bank.

Many others were given theirs by family, bought there's long before they were ever vintage, or traded up for them over time.

Those that pay the high prices are able to do so, & I doubt their family is starving or doing w/o to allow their bass collection to grow.

In fact I can't recall a single person who's posted anything along these lines.
Nobody has ever said "well there goes the kids future" but it sounds soooo good!
No starving children, no tattered clothing.

People shouldn't make assumptions of others, & they certainly shouldn't openly express their envy, it's really not a good look.

If you can't afford one w/o hurting yourself, or your family, you shouldn't get one.
But that doesn't mean everyone else was in that same position when they obtained their's.
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1SHOT1HIT said:
Joking about how others care for their kids, or an accusation of the lack thereof, is usually going to be met with a pretty tough, & relatively defensive crowd!
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Big, big thanks for your comments man! I've worked hard, raised a family, and now retired... Don't need this accusatory crap on here :spit: Love all the other members though :cool:
 
#322
rfslick said:
This would be my '64 Deluxe Jazz
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They had 64's with blocks? Cool, you learn something new everyday.
 
#326
Dragan said:
I think I red somewhere they actually called it "de luxe",when it hit the scene in 60es.
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The Jazz Bass was Fender's flagship and it was considered a deluxe bass compared to the P bass, and probably even marketed that way, but now Fender actually makes a model called the "Deluxe Jazz Bass" (both MIA and MIM). I meant that back then, they didn't have 2 different models for the Jazz (a Jazz and a Deluxe Jazz), it was just a Jazz Bass.
 
#328
rfslick said:
Just a note, my '64 had block inlays and they also sold dot inlays. What would the model with block inlays be called if not deluxe? When I refinished the entire bass, the date codes were '64. Nothing had been altered, and I did not alter them in refinishing.
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Not wanting to argue, just correct any misinformation, especially on a pre-CBS thread. If you check the Fender resource books and websites (and also examples on ebay, etc..), you'll see that Fender used unbound rosewood necks with clay dots on Jazz Basses from the start in 1960 through 1964. In January '65 (once CBS took over ownership and control of Fender), they changed the dots from clay to pearl. In very late '65 (December or so), CBS added binding to the Jazz Bass neck. So in early '66, the Jazz Bass has pearl dotted, bound rosewood necks. In mid '65 CBS switched from using dots to blocks on Jazz bass necks (which were used up through the '70s). So there were no neck variations on the Jazz bass in the pre-CBS days, maple wasn't even an option until '68. There were no different "models" of the Jazz Bass until the '80s. '66 was the only year you could've had your choice of dots or blocks on the Jazz Bass, and both options had binding on the neck.
 
#329
I agree with thebrain completely. his statement is 100% accurate, but with one exception. back in the late 70's, a good friend of mine showed me his 100% stock and all original 1959 jazz bass (and yes, I know that they are not supposed to exist), but the strangest thing was that it had a one-piece maple neck and fiesta red painted body. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. all of the numbers (penciled dates 1959) matched as well as the pot date codes. the craziest thing about it is that it had the narrowest nut width as well as the thinnest front to back profile of any J bass I've ever seen. it was so thin in the first position, looked like the headstock might fall off if just you looked at it funny. the neck and body had the original finish, and the bass even still had its original strings on it.

believe it or not, and I definitely don't want to add any misinformation about the jazz bass's history, but I saw it with my own eyes and played it. this happened in whittier at the time which is almost a stone's throw from fullerton, and I've always just assumed that it had to be a very early prototype that they used a '58 maple p neck and re-profiled it super slim.
 
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#330
johnk_10 said:
I agree with thebrain completely. his statement is 100% accurate, but with one exception. back in the late 70's, a good friend of mine showed me his 100% stock and all original 1959 jazz bass (and yes, I know that they are not supposed to exist), but the strangest thing was that it had a one-piece maple neck and fiesta red painted body. I couldn't believe it when I saw it. all of the numbers (penciled dates 1959) matched as well as the pot date codes. the craziest thing about it is that it had the narrowest nut width as well as the thinnest front to back profile of any J bass I've ever seen. it was so thin in the first position, looked like the headstock might fall off if just you looked at it funny. the neck and body had the original finish, and the bass even still had its original strings on it.

believe it or not, and I definitely don't want to add any misinformation about the jazz bass's history, but I saw it with my own eyes and played it. this happened in whittier at the time which is almost a stone's throw from fullerton, and I've always just assumed that it had to be a very early prototype that they used a '58 maple p neck and re-profiled it super slim.
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I know there's also photos out there of that 3-knob prototype Jazz with the soapbar P/Us from circa 1959 (which is also mentioned in at least one of the Fender Bass books). I'll bet Fender had to have made more than just one Jazz prototype before they put the model into production in '60. The one your friend had must be worth a fortune if it's still around!
 
#331
thebrian said:
I know there's also photos out there of that 3-knob prototype Jazz with the soapbar P/Us from circa 1959 (which is also mentioned in at least one of the Fender Bass books). I'll bet Fender had to have made more than just one Jazz prototype before they put the model into production in '60. The one your friend had must be worth a fortune if it's still around!
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yeah, I've seen pics of the soapbar one somewhere. I didn't know it existed until i saw the pics. most of my experience with them is by being a bassist as a kid (started playing at 12) and seeing a ton of them when i began working in a music store starting in 1973. back then the 60's ones weren't considered old or 'vintage', they were just considered 'used'. whereas the 50's ones would command about 2-4X the retail price of a brand new one.
 
#333
thebrian said:
The Jazz Bass was Fender's flagship and it was considered a deluxe bass compared to the P bass, and probably even marketed that way, but now Fender actually makes a model called the "Deluxe Jazz Bass" (both MIA and MIM). I meant that back then, they didn't have 2 different models for the Jazz (a Jazz and a Deluxe Jazz), it was just a Jazz Bass.
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Bolded were my point.

Rest of the lines goes without saying.....:)
 
#334
Question for John or Brian or any other gurus lurking.

I would have thought pearl was more expensive than clay as a material so it would seem an odd cost-saving measure. Were the clay pots more difficult to fabricate/install or was it something else that lead to the change?

Cheers
Davo
 
#335
Clay is only a nickname because of the color. They are actually 12x12" vinyl asbestos flooring tiles that were used. True story. And yes they were cheap! Leo had someone punching them out of flooring tiles. A tile would probably be a dime back then and you'd get hundreds out of one tile!
 
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96tbird said:
Clay is only a nickname because of the color. They are actually 12x12" vinyl asbestos flooring tiles that were used. True story. And yes they were cheap! Leo had someone punching them out of flooring tiles. A tile would probably be a dime back then and you'd get hundreds out of one tile!
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Seriously? Do you have a source for this info? That's wild.
 

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