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Fender pre-CBS Club: pics mandatory!

Fender pre-CBS Club members:
#1 Mastermold
#2 Webtroll
#3 Hilton Marsh
#4 ASATMAN
#5 Jim Carr (aka Dr. Jim)
#6 9mmMike
#7 ExaltBass
#8 Pilgrim
#9 that1guy222
#10 tomshepp
#11 M.R. Ogle
#12 og61pbass
#13 Beano z
#14 D Bopp
#15 herr_rocket
#16 zacmac
#17 KPO2000
#18 Brams77
#19 thisSNsucks
#20 Bhazulle
#21 Easy8
#22 bh2
#23 Davo-London
#24 bucephylus
#25 Kmrumedy
#26 narud
#27 57pbass
#28 Lublin
#29 shadven
#30 SLaPiNFuNK
#31 sentry
#32 thebrian
#33 1SHOT1HIT
#34 johnk_10
#35 slime1
#36 derbalou
#37 Ron Clark
#38 audiorep2
#39 96tbird
#40 Matt Call
#41 jonno1707
#42 geddy402
#43 darkhelmet
#44 FFTT
#45 StephenR
#46 z65
#47 djkool
#48 marcray
#49 JRB
#50 DavidBassista
#51 bassplaynbaiken
#52 tazzydfair
#53 Stizz
#54 mactac
#55 ....
#56 veebass
 
If memory serves, XA is Xavier Armenta who was with Fender for several decades. He made the neck for Clapton's strat "Brownie". You see a lot of X. Armenta stamps in the late 60s went they went away from the handwritten initials.

Nice find and beautiful '56!
 
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Ummm.. Along those same lines, can I reserve number 63??? :)

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If memory serves, XA is Xavier Armenta who was with Fender for several decades. He made the neck for Clapton's strat "Brownie". You see a lot of X. Armenta stamps in the late 60s went they went away from the handwritten initials.

Nice find and beautiful '56!

My favorite neck builder/finisher.
 
So when are you going to post pics of your pre-CBS basses?

I am waiting with bated breath for news from JohnK that my 1965 Precision has been completed. Will post pics of JohnK's mastery and my other 1964 P shortly. The 1965 might not technically belong in the pre-CBS category... so I ask for forgiveness in advance.

Thanks for all the great info and pics on this thread - the craftsmanship and individuality that went into Fender's basses during this period is amazing.
 
I am waiting with bated breath for news from JohnK that my 1965 Precision has been completed. Will post pics of JohnK's mastery and my other 1964 P shortly. The 1965 might not technically belong in the pre-CBS category... so I ask for forgiveness in advance.

Thanks for all the great info and pics on this thread - the craftsmanship and individuality that went into Fender's basses during this period is amazing.
As long as it's an L series you're good ;)
 
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I posted a picture of my '65 L-series P (LPB refin) earlier in the thread, and now I'm starting to think about a new refin of the refin. Here it is, just to jog y'all's memories.

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Original finish appears to be Dakota Red, which I rather like, and there's something to be said for staying faithful to the original. But here the rub: I don't care for mint guards, and this one doesn't seem to be original. I'm much more of a tortoise shell guy, and in terms of the classic finish / guard combinations, that seems to suggest either a) Olympic White or b) Black. So one question is, which of these two finishes would get the nod? And if I did Black, just to be clear, I have NO intention of painting the headstock. Here it is, by the way.

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Anyway, I like both of these finishes, but I wonder if I'm letting an opportunity go by if I opt for an original custom color refin that's so, well...black or white. So here's a second question: what do folks think about red basses with red tortoise shell guards.?If y'all were to go red, what finish would YOU choose? I personally don't care for Fiesta, and I like Candy Apple and Dakota about equally. Any thoughts about how well or poorly these would go with red tortoise shell?

And finally, could I still show myself around here if I were to forgo authenticity in favor of Seminole Red?
 
I posted pictures on TalkBass a while back of my left handed Jazz bass that was sold to me as being from 1965. The bass is in 100% original condition and looks like it was rarely if ever played. There are no wear marks on the frets or the back of the neck. Everything is in perfect working order (tuners, pickups, pots, etc.) I purchased the bass from a dealer who got it from the son of the original owner. In the process of researching and learning more about pre-CBS basses I began to strongly suspect the bass to actually be from 1964. The reasons being that the bass had the clay dot markers as opposed to the pearl dots, a very early L-series serial plate, and all three pots were dated from the 40th week of 1964. The neck date would be the decisive piece of information to determine if the bass were pre-CBS or not. I had been reluctant to remove the neck since it looked to have never been removed before. It had been mentioned to me on this site that sometimes if the neck pocket is extremely tight it can chip the paint upon first time removal. Anyway, I couldn't stand not knowing and carefully removed the neck today. Well, see for yourself. Yay! It's from 1964 after all. No damage occurred and the neck has been reattached without issues. Now I can stop wondering and join this fine club.
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And the neck pocket.
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Some of the pictures I posted before.
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I posted pictures on TalkBass a while back of my left handed Jazz bass that was sold to me as being from 1965. The bass is in 100% original condition and looks like it was rarely if ever played. There are no wear marks on the frets or the back of the neck. Everything is in perfect working order (tuners, pickups, pots, etc.) I purchased the bass from a dealer who got it from the son of the original owner. In the process of researching and learning more about pre-CBS basses I began to strongly suspect the bass to actually be from 1964. The reasons being that the bass had the clay dot markers as opposed to the pearl dots, a very early L-series serial plate, and all three pots were dated from the 40th week of 1964. The neck date would be the decisive piece of information to determine if the bass were pre-CBS or not. I had been reluctant to remove the neck since it looked to have never been removed before. It had been mentioned to me on this site that sometimes if the neck pocket is extremely tight it can chip the paint upon first time removal. Anyway, I couldn't stand not knowing and carefully removed the neck today. Well, see for yourself. Yay! It's from 1964 after all. No damage occurred and the neck has been reattached without issues. Now I can stop wondering and join this fine club.
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And the neck pocket.
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Some of the pictures I posted before.
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Holy crap that is nice! I took my neck off of a 59 p bass and scratched it on the stupid metal pickguard shield. Can't see it but I k ow its there...

Is that a shim in the neck pocket? Where did you get it if you do t mind me asking?
 
I posted pictures on TalkBass a while back of my left handed Jazz bass that was sold to me as being from 1965. The bass is in 100% original condition and looks like it was rarely if ever played. There are no wear marks on the frets or the back of the neck. Everything is in perfect working order (tuners, pickups, pots, etc.) I purchased the bass from a dealer who got it from the son of the original owner. In the process of researching and learning more about pre-CBS basses I began to strongly suspect the bass to actually be from 1964. The reasons being that the bass had the clay dot markers as opposed to the pearl dots, a very early L-series serial plate, and all three pots were dated from the 40th week of 1964. The neck date would be the decisive piece of information to determine if the bass were pre-CBS or not. I had been reluctant to remove the neck since it looked to have never been removed before. It had been mentioned to me on this site that sometimes if the neck pocket is extremely tight it can chip the paint upon first time removal. Anyway, I couldn't stand not knowing and carefully removed the neck today. Well, see for yourself. Yay! It's from 1964 after all. No damage occurred and the neck has been reattached without issues. Now I can stop wondering and join this fine club.

Very cool--and yes you can--No. 55 is all yours!

:)