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Fender Quality Control...A New Low

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I am still trying to understand why some of you are not understanding that I am not using a small sample to make these claims. I probably work on 1000 Fenders per year. When I am talking about seeing a variation in problem fenders hitting my bench, it is not stated lightly with no experience here!!!

Website or city of the location of your business? Would help to establish veracity.

Not defending Fender or just pointing you out, but many folks claim many things here but we do not know what area they are located. Some are even really active but no clue where they are.
 
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The only real reason to buy a Fender is the resale value.
Gotta respectfully disagree, but then, my "real reason" is because their ergonomics feel good in my own, two hands. However, that is a very personal reason and that's "real" enough for me, even if it doesn't apply to everybody. "Different strokes" and all that jazz. :)

Also, I kinda-sorta-rather dig the looks and sound I get from them, so they've got that going for them. Also personal, I suppose. ;)
 
I will suppose he lives around a community of wealthy ppl, cause he says he's busy "fixing" a lot of Fenders day after day, all year long... That sounds more likely "argumentum ad verecundiam" to me.
Every luthier here in L.A. is swamped with work. I work only by appointment so I can get things done. I don't do any advertising, and have a closed shop, so I can keep the work load under control. I only had 7 repairs today! Most guys around here are 3 months out on repairs. The consistent work is what keeps me here, but I have dreams of being in a quiet place some day. I probably could make it work as about 20% of my current business is sent to me from other states or countries, but that would be a big loss of income, and since I am also a professional bassist, I really have to stay where the work is.
 
Gotta respectfully disagree, but then, my "real reason" is because their ergonomics feel good in my own, two hands. However, that is a very personal reason and that's "real" enough for me, even if it doesn't apply to everybody. "Different strokes" and all that jazz. :)

Also, I kinda-sorta-rather dig the looks and sound I get from them, so they've got that going for them. Also personal, I suppose. ;)
I agree. Nothing feels better than my broke in '59 Precision Bass. So ergonomic.
 
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Ditto. There was no flame nor accusation in my post, but like many experienced players here, I do have decades of experience to at least make a reasonable legitimate point. Photos (other requested) and basic non-anonymity about your unreasonable claims are legit questions. Without them, this is just a common rant. Which is also fine. As stated, pointing out QC issue is legit. But without context it lacks any backbone.
How much more "context" do you need? Look at the photo, see that the hot wire from the pickup is soldered to the output jack lug instead of the correct lug, and read my description of the effects of Fender's mistake. I can't make it much simpler than that. If you want close ups of the lumilays, the fingerboard dot tear out, and the out of phase wiring, you will just have to trust me as those instruments have already been picked up by my clients. I will however be happy to discuss any of this with you directly should you want to PM me to get my shop number. And that especially includes any one from Fender.
 
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The bridge is too wide for the fingerboard, and the strings are placed all the way to the edge of the fingerboard.

Oh I see, thank you. And although this was a good post, you better go and take a rest. You cannot argue with Fender fanboys, they will tear you down lol...I decided to spend way less money than the price of a new USA Fender on a japanese 1986 Yamaha BB5000, a way better resource allocation, lol Take care Mr. TJL.
 
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Oh I see, thank you. And although this was a good post, you better go and take a rest. You cannot argue with Fender fanboys, they will tear you down lol...I decided to spend way less money than the price of a new USA Fender on a japanese 1986 Yamaha BB5000, a way better resource allocation, lol Take care Mr. TJL.
Congrats on your choice. I think I had one of those back in the day. Nathan East helped me get it.
No rest for the weary....time to clean up the shop to be ready for tomorrow's onslaught.
 
Congrats on your choice. I think I had one of those back in the day. Nathan East helped me get it.
No rest for the weary....time to clean up the shop to be ready for tomorrow's onslaught.

Onslaught lol...and yes, it was a good choice!

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Gotta respectfully disagree, but then, my "real reason" is because their ergonomics feel good in my own, two hands. However, that is a very personal reason and that's "real" enough for me, even if it doesn't apply to everybody. "Different strokes" and all that jazz. :)

Also, I kinda-sorta-rather dig the looks and sound I get from them, so they've got that going for them. Also personal, I suppose. ;)
Don't get me wrong in thinking I am anti Fender. My wife is a Japanese Power Jazz Special modded with EMG's, Aguilar Obp-3, Bad Ass Bridge, Schaller Tuners... couldn't sell it for the price of the parts but I'll die with that bass, and it's not even the nicest Fender I've owned. There is an ubiquity to them that leaves me honestly feeling that every bassist should own at least ONE. But don't expect it to be amazing. They're mutts, with personality, charming, quirky, and very flawed. You can find a really really nice one if you try about 50 of them and it probably won't be the most expensive one. So, when I pick up an 8k custom shop heavy relic and find the dead spot on the G string on the 2nd try... I gotta ask, what is the supposed 'quality' you're paying for? Oh yea, the resale quality. Nostalgia beats innovation, and we're stuck with the Jazz Bass.
 
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What is hilarious is that anyone thinks that Fender's were good at any point in time. They weren't, they aren't, and likely never will be. Anyone expecting a FSO to play at all like an actual modern instrument is living in a dream. You want authenticity? Prepare for garbage. Evolution hobbled by nostalgia. But people will pay for it. A 6k jazz bass with dead spots all over... why? Ubiquity. Fools. The only real reason to buy a Fender is the resale value.
This is my favorite TB post of all time
 
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Don't get me wrong in thinking I am anti Fender. My wife is a Japanese Power Jazz Special modded with EMG's, Aguilar Obp-3, Bad Ass Bridge, Schaller Tuners... couldn't sell it for the price of the parts but I'll die with that bass, and it's not even the nicest Fender I've owned.
Possibly the most super-mega-absolutamente-important question anyone could ask you today;

How many knobs still have the "F" cap? :D

There is an ubiquity to them that leaves me honestly feeling that every bassist should own at least ONE. But don't expect it to be amazing. They're mutts, with personality, charming, quirky, and very flawed. You can find a really really nice one if you try about 50 of them and it probably won't be the most expensive one. So, when I pick up an 8k custom shop heavy relic and find the dead spot on the G string on the 2nd try... I gotta ask, what is the supposed 'quality' you're paying for? Oh yea, the resale quality. Nostalgia beats innovation, and we're stuck with the Jazz Bass.
I don't think I've been in the same room as a bass priced over $5k, let alone held one, so I have no perspective there, but yeah...it's understandable that the level of expectation would be relative to the price. (Come to think of it, the only way I could ever afford a Custom Shop is if I won tomorrow's Power Ball lottery. :greedy:)

At the End of All-Things, if I'm eternally stuck with Jazz basses for the rest of my life, then I can die happy (...once I've modded the crap out of them, turning them into some kind of Jazz-shaped homunculi that do not exist "in nature", much like your bury-me-with-it PJS. :whistle:).

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If I were to list all of the issues I have had come across my bench in the past 6 months from Fender, this thread would be 20 pages longer. You forget that I do this work day in and day out, so I have plenty of stories I can tell. It is precisely because I do this stuff all day every day that I can spot a trend when I see it, and the trend of the month is Fender is letting way more mistakes get out the door. For every bad one, I am sure there is a higher percent of good ones, but this month the ratio seems to have flipped so that I have more problem instruments than perfect ones. That is why I decided to start this thread. Something has changed at Fender, and it shows in the products making it on to the showroom floor. Once again, I am not saying don't buy a Fender. I am saying to Fender "Get your act together".
Uhhh you work at a repair shop. That’s called “sample bias.”
 
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