Fender Rumble Club

[mesaplayer83]

So I said I use a Fender Rumble100. Well, I'm buying the 200 1x15" from Sweetwater and selling my 100 - I simply don't have space for two. Our basement apartment will never appreciate the lusciousness that is the 200, but it will definitely take me further. It's only 28 pounds, 6 lbs more than the 100, for the 15" speaker. Not only is it 200W, but the added benefit of the TRS output to plug into other cabs at gigs if we need it. I saw the 1X12" 500W cab, I looked, I lusted, and expressed a bit of necessary restraint and refrained from buying it also hehe.
I've used the 100 at gigs, but you're pushing it. Clearly the 200 will do way better. Plus my low B string will probably appreciate the 15" speaker much better ... all I ever played were 15s when I was younger.

You won't regret it - I like my 200 Combo so much that I bought a 2nd one after flipping the 1st one, despite already having some excellent amps...

 

[LeoFromPortland]

Perhaps silly question:
Does the Ohms on the speaker out of the amp only apply to the output? What I mean is, when calculating Ohms for extension cabs, do you have to consider the cab that's part of the combo or no?
Thanks, and I couldn't find my answer elsewhere is why I ask. I notice others on here use the 200C with the 1X12" 500W cab. It's been a very long time since I worried about this stuff.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Perhaps silly question:
Does the Ohms on the speaker out of the amp only apply to the output? What I mean is, when calculating Ohms for extension cabs, do you have to consider the cab that's part of the combo or no?
Thanks, and I couldn't find my answer elsewhere is why I ask. I notice others on here use the 200C with the 1X12" 500W cab. It's been a very long time since I worried about this stuff.

Not sure I understand your question. Ohms is how you measure the resistance of any component of chain of components in an electrical circuit.

 

[Linnin]

I've used the 100 at gigs, but you're pushing it. Clearly the 200 will do way better. Plus my low B string will probably appreciate the 15" speaker much better

^^^Indubitably^^^

You won't regret it - I like my 200 Combo so much that I bought a 2nd one after flipping the 1st one, despite already having some excellent amps...

I love my Fender Rumble 200 combo. It is a thing of beauty.

 

[Linnin]

Does the Ohms on the speaker out of the amp only apply to the output? What I mean is, when calculating Ohms for extension cabs, do you have to consider the cab that's part of the combo or no?

Yes. You must use an 8ohm (and not lower) extension speaker cabinet no matter what size the driver(s) might be. The amp will eventually shutdown if the total load is lower than 4 ohms. An 8ohm extension speaker load + an 8ohm internal speaker load = a total 4ohm load.

 

[LeoFromPortland]

Yes. You must use an 8ohm (and not lower) extension speaker cabinet no matter what size the driver(s) might be. The amp will eventually shutdown if the total load is lower than 4 ohms. An 8ohm extension speaker load + an 8ohm internal speaker load = a total 4ohm load.

I thought as much. Thanks a lot. I figured since the speaker in the combo is running in parallel with the extra cab, that's how you'd calculate it.

Also, Sweetwater doesn't mention the speaker out in the specs, see their page here:
Fender Rumble 200 1x15" 200-Watt Bass Combo
For outputs, it just mentions xlr and headphones. Even if there's no speaker out, still a sweet deal IMHO, just surprised you wouldn't see that in the specs. Unless it's in a picture on the site and not text.

 

[Linnin]

Also, Sweetwater doesn't mention the speaker out in the specs, see their page here:
Fender Rumble 200 1x15" 200-Watt Bass Combo
For outputs, it just mentions xlr and headphones. Even if there's no speaker out, still a sweet deal IMHO, just surprised you wouldn't see that in the specs. Unless it's in a picture on the site and not text.

Most definitely has an extension speaker output jack Invalid Link Removed

 

[LeoFromPortland]

Most definitely has an extension speaker output jack Invalid Link Removed

Many thanks, good sir.

 

[The Terror]

Congratulations!

Just to clarify, I believe what you refer to as the "TRS" output will connect you to a PA system and you can connect an 8 ohm extension speaker to the 1/4 inch "speaker output".

I'm sure you will enjoy!

EDIT: Should have known Linnin would be all over this faster than I could type--darn stubby bassist fingers!

You guys rawk.

I remain,

The Terror

 

[Linnin]

Just to clarify, I believe what you refer to as the "TRS" output will connect you to a PA system and you can connect an 8 ohm extension speaker to the 1/4 inch "speaker output".

1/4" phone plugs are 'TRS' or Tip-Ring-Sleeve, and in this case you would want a dedicated speaker cable, and not an instrument cable.

 

[J-Bassomatic]

I thought as much. Thanks a lot. I figured since the speaker in the combo is running in parallel with the extra cab, that's how you'd calculate it.

Also, Sweetwater doesn't mention the speaker out in the specs, see their page here:
Fender Rumble 200 1x15" 200-Watt Bass Combo
For outputs, it just mentions xlr and headphones. Even if there's no speaker out, still a sweet deal IMHO, just surprised you wouldn't see that in the specs. Unless it's in a picture on the site and not text.

If you look at the pic of the back of the combo and mouse over it you will see the speaker jack in the magnification.

 

[Linnin]

If you look at the pic of the back of the combo and mouse over it you will see the speaker jack in the magnification.

It's Magic! Magic-Fi-Cation

 

[J-Bassomatic]

It's Magic! Magic-Fi-Cation

 

[GlennA]

So you may be wondering what the pre-set tone controls do? Bright, Contour & Vintage. This is with ALL tone controls at 12o'clock . . Traces normalised to 0dB at start of test. The black line is the reference signal.
Bright is treble boost. Contour is scooped at 700Hz. Vintage is treble cut.

The results tested with my Rumble 500.

Red trace = Bright
Blue trace = Contour
Green trace = Vintage

 

[Linnin]

So you may be wondering what the pre-set tone controls do?

Nope. I can hear what they do. I don't believe a single thing you say.

 

[GlennA]

With no pre-sets and all tone controls at 12 o'clock (center) this is what you get . . A somewhat 'scooped' response.

The scale is stretched out to +5 & -10dB.

 

[Alfonso Alba]

So you may be wondering what the pre-set tone controls do? Bright, Contour & Vintage. This is with ALL tone controls at 12o'clock . . Traces normalised to 0dB at start of test. The black line is the reference signal.
Bright is treble boost. Contour is scooped at 700Hz. Vintage is treble cut.

The results tested with my Rumble 500.

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Red trace = Bright
Blue trace = Contour
Green trace = Vintage

Interesting. How are you performing these tests? White noise? Frequency sweep? Do you use some specific software?

 

[GlennA]

I don't believe a single thing you say.

The feeling is mutual ..

 

[GlennA]

Interesting. How are you performing these tests? White noise? Frequency sweep? Do you use some specific software?

It's a swept tone sampled at 192khz 24 bit in this case. The software, HOLMImpulse for these tests. . .

 

[mesaplayer83]

Hi there 'ubenator' . . According to Fenders spec the Rumble 200 does (RMS values) about 93W into 8 ohms and 160W into 4, they test at 100Hz and 1 kHz. So the 200 is somewhat poetic and more by model number than power output.

I wouldn't get too excited, they say to double perceived volume (approx) an increase of power by 10dB is required, that's like going from 50W to about 500W to be twice as loud.

The Rumble 200 uses the icePower 50ASX2 amplifier module which is capable of 220W into 4 ohms.

Where are you getting your numbers from? - the owner's manual for the Rumble 200 says 140 watts into 8 ohms, 200 watts into 4 ohms...