Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

. . . . Here is my setup with a Studio 40 on top ( i changed the grill cover) and a 40 v3 on bottom!!! This works so well for me!!! I played a big outside gig and actually had FOH ask if I could roll back the low end a bit!!! That made me smile!!

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At this time I do not run any of the stereo effects... I would love to..... but with my setup I EQ v3 almost as a sub so more of the low end..... With running out of the v3 to the house I get the studio setting that I set plus the EQ that I want from the v3.

Ahhhhhh . . . So, now I'm putting 40 & 40 together. Ya see what I did there, right? Oh, I kill me.

Yeah, if you EQ to a phat low tone for your own monitoring and that same tone goes to the FOH via the standard Rumble XLR, then no wonder they complain. That's probably the same reason some bassists write-off the Rumble for not having a "true DI". They've learned to suit themselves with the amp as monitor while sending a dry signal to the board for whatever the soundman wants to do to it.

Now, have you considered that you've got a very flexible "true DI"/XLR Out in your Rumble Studio? You could EQ your amps the way you do now for stage tone and simply send the FOH either the PRE (direct and unaffected signal) or the POST (including all onboard processing) OR, better yet, send him BOTH from the Rumble Studio and let him decide the mix of them that he wants to run! Huh? Right? And that's with the default settings of the Studio's line outs! What do you think? Might this help you? Or not, whatever you think.

I've learned to go for the punchy mids that cut through the mix on stage, which is usually louder than I'd prefer (for many reasons), and have my R500c send that with whatever level of overdrive I've selected for the song. The FOH can then fattened it themselves for their actual subs as they wish, but they're going to get my desired "warmth" versus "snarl" to start off with. I've never had an FOH request anything different than what I've sent them that way. But, maybe that's just me. I dunno.

 

[G-Dog]

I have to admit that I haven't read the whole thread, but I have done searches for all of the relevant keywords, promise!

With that being said, how is everyone finding the Stage 800? I'm looking to downsize from a Helix and Barefaced FR800 rig. I know it won't have the same maximum volume, but does it have enough volume? Standard rock band, two guitars, mostly PA support, occasionally without.

Are people generally happy with theirs, sounding good? @tombowlus, are you still impressed?

Hi, Jack. So far, I've found my Rumble 500 combo sufficient for most big gigs, both sound and volume-wise. And it's only 350 continuous watts thru 2x10s by itself. And with an 8-ohm external cab to get the full 500 watts, I haven't had to crank it yet. But, with FOH support, forget about carrying the unnecessary external cab.

From what I've read here the Stage 800 and Studio 40 owners all seem very pleased with the sounds, even shocked at how good they are. And I don't recall any of them asking what can be done to improve the sounds, or if they got a defective one because of bad sound, or anything. From what I read in the manual and in reviews, the stock settings, or your own new settings, can be EQ'd or re-EQ'd to such a wide degree that you should be able to get almost any sound you could ever want. I admit to thinking about getting one or the other quite often myself, someday. (sigh)

I'm not sure how the volume would compare to what you have now. The Stage 800 is "only" 400 continuous watts thru 2x10s and an on/off compression tweeter, or horn. It requires an 8-ohm or 4-ohm external load to develop the full 800 continuous watts through however many speakers that may total up to be. For instance, one of our members reported earlier today that he has the Stage with two cosmetically matching 210 cabs. Imagine 800 watts thru 6 10" speakers. Yeah, that should be plenty loud.

From what I see on the Barefaced website, the FR800 is 600 continuous watts thru a single 12" woofer and compression driver. And they are probably much higher quality components than that of the Rumbles. But, just from these basic figures it seems kinda sorta like the Stage 800, with external cab(s), could be a little louder, or at least higher SPL, than the Barefaced. But, maybe not. I don't know.

I'd be very interested to read about your direct comparison of them! Both in respect to volume and the sounds compared to the Helix.

 

[G-Dog]

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[RumbleMan3]

It's compatible - but it's rated at 300W continuous rather than 350, which means that you have to be somewhat careful if you run it as the only cab with a Rumble 500 head. If you're running two cabs, no problem.

I will only use 1 cab so the r210 is better otherwise a bassman 1x15. Can you use two r2x10 or two b1x15?

 

[RumbleMan3]

I'm with SoulReflection in wondering why you're not considering the Rumble 115?

I only want to use 1 Cab.Using a 500 head (350w@8ohm) and the 1x15 is rated 300w, I am better off with the 210.

 

[RumbleMan3]

Does the bassman cabs have magnetic holds on the top to use with rumble heads or is it only the rumble cabs?
Will this be a problem?

 

[RumbleMan3]

what is the big difference in price between the rumble cabs and bassman cabs, if they sound the same? If there is not much difference in quality or build?

you may as well buy the rumble cabs then why would i buy a bassman then?

am i right?

 

[sissy kathy]

Does the bassman cabs have magnetic holds on the top to use with rumble heads or is it only the rumble cabs?
Will this be a problem?

No the Bassman cabs don't have that mounting, just the Rumble cabs.

 

[RumbleMan3]

why only the 1x15 rumble have wheels and 2x10 doesnt? can i put wheels on? Would that be a bad idea for some reason, since it doesnt come with wheels in the first place?

 

[sissy kathy]

why only the 1x15 rumble have wheels and 2x10 doesnt? can i put wheels on? Would that be a bad idea for some reason, since it doesnt come with wheels in the first place?

I've seen Eden 210 cabs with them. No reason not to put them on if you want them.
Those wheel sets are available from fender. They need to be put on the long side as the cab would be at risk of tipping otherwise.Fender part number 099 4000 000 Swivel Caster set available here.
http tps://www.amazon.com/Fender-Amplifier=Casters-Hardware-Set/dp/B00ASYIOHE

 

[Meghans Dad]

what is the big difference in price between the rumble cabs and bassman cabs, if they sound the same? If there is not much difference in quality or build?

you may as well buy the rumble cabs then why would i buy a bassman then?

am i right?

As revealed earlier, the Rumble cabs are 1/2 plywood, the Bassmans cabs are 3/4. In addition, the Tweeter horn" on the Bassman has a variable control, the Rumbles have a 3 position switch last time I checked. Fender also rates the Bassman cabs at a slight higher wattage capacity. Whether its worth almost twice the money is a personal judgement call.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

variable HF control is so worth it
Well, it was nice on my MarkBass cabinet.

 

[G-Dog]

I will only use 1 cab so the r210 is better otherwise a bassman 1x15. Can you use two r2x10 or two b1x15?

For safety's sake, yes, the Rumble 210 cab is a bit safer to use alone with the Rumble 500, since they are both rated for 350 watts. But, if you're careful not to turn it up too much, the 300 watt Rumble 115 could be used successfully. I've even read of people using the 500 head with the 250 watt rated Rumble 112, but you gotta be real careful and listen closely for sounds of distress.

Of course you can use nearly any combination of almost any two cabs, be they 112(s), 115(s), 210(s), or 410(s), be they Rumble, Bassman, or most other brands. They just have to be at least 8-ohms each and rated, preferably, for 250 watts continuous, or 500 watts program. And, if you're careful, as mentioned above, you could even use lower wattage rated cabs. Any of those Fender cabs would probably sound great together! Other brands may, or may not. It depends.

See the back of the Rumble 500 head with two speaker outputs? "500W, 4Ω min. TOTAL" means you can connect a single 4-ohm cab rated for at least 500 continuous watts, or two 8-ohm cabs rated for at least 250 watts continuous.

I only want to use 1 Cab.Using a 500 head (350w@8ohm) and the 1x15 is rated 300w, I am better off with the 210.

See above about being careful. The 115 could work fine.

Does the bassman cabs have magnetic holds on the top to use with rumble heads or is it only the rumble cabs?
Will this be a problem?

As sissy kathy said, the magnetic attachments for the Rumble heads are only on the Rumble cabs. Not a big problem, though, as the Bassman cabs are all flat on top with no handles to get in the way of the head.

what is the big difference in price between the rumble cabs and bassman cabs, if they sound the same? If there is not much difference in quality or build? you may as well buy the rumble cabs then why would i buy a bassman then? am i right?

The Bassman has lighter weight Neo speakers and thicker cabs for twice the price of the Rumble. Starting out? On a tight budget? Can't hear the difference? Might as well buy the Rumble over the Bassman. Lotsa Super Bassman head owners (NOT cheap!) use two Rumble 115 cabs with it!!

. Bassman . . . . . Rumble​

115 $650-350wt . . $300-300wt
410 $800-500wt . . $400-500wt

why only the 1x15 rumble have wheels and 2x10 doesnt? can i put wheels on? Would that be a bad idea for some reason, since it doesnt come with wheels in the first place?

Some 410s also come with wheels! The Rumble 115 and 210 weigh the same but, again, like sissy kathy says, the 115 is wide while the 210 is tall and more tippable on wheels. In fact, the 115 is 23" wide just like the 210 is 23" tall! That's why the 210 looks "better", to most people, lain on its side on top of the 115.

But, yes, of course you can put wheels on a 210. See sissy kathy's suggestion about that.

PS: It's OK to put more than one question in a single post!

 

[Klotski]

Has anyone here tried running a 410 cab extended from a 200 combo?

 

[tombowlus]

I have to admit that I haven't read the whole thread, but I have done searches for all of the relevant keywords, promise!

With that being said, how is everyone finding the Stage 800? I'm looking to downsize from a Helix and Barefaced FR800 rig. I know it won't have the same maximum volume, but does it have enough volume? Standard rock band, two guitars, mostly PA support, occasionally without.

Are people generally happy with theirs, sounding good? @tombowlus, are you still impressed?

Yes, I am still very impressed. The Stage 800 on its own is actually more than enough, now that I am using in-ears, but it's probably fine on its own even without in-ears. That being said, I love the extra headroom and horsepower when using the Stage 800 with the matching 210.

 

[JakobT]

I will only use 1 cab so the r210 is better otherwise a bassman 1x15. Can you use two r2x10 or two b1x15?

Yes. Two cabs will give you the full 500W output.

 

[ErnieD]

Well ok, had to jump ahead a few hundred pages here to the end. I searched Rumble 112 V3 combo and it took me to the Rumble Club pages 1100's. I read quite a few pages then jumped ahead to the 1500's. I now jumped ahead to the last page.

I think I've read enough to about know I've made a good choice with my new, Rumble 100-12" V3 landing here later today; dang its' 3am already. But also from all my research it seems I could've used the 40-V3 combo, from what many say.
While in the process of ordering my new Rumble form Sweetwater, they only offered 6 month pay plan at this price. Had a CC offering me 18 months, 0% interest and $150 cash back on purchases. So instead, I called MF and they gave me a nice discount off the $299. price. So getting this new amp at a good price with all the discounts. Nice. Besides my SW rep is a kinda d*ck when it comes to any $$ discount. Older cat, like me, on the phone at MF was very friendly and cool to talk some about music.

But my plan for this amp was only for a couple low volume, living room band practices and a local open mic. I used to take my TC-E BG250-15 to these practices and the jam. But even at about 35lbs, the BG250 is a pain to lug around. I usually stand right next to my stage monitor due to tight stage space. And the home practices are low enough where I'll never over tax this little rig.

So, I really liked that the V3-12" combo is only 22lbs. I really wanted a monitor style combo where I could tilt it back to point up at me. But all the ones' I saw were 40lbs +/-. I wanted the lightest, decent powered combo with at least a 12" driver in it. I'm sure I can angle it up at me easily too.

I have several large bass cabs and bass amps, so doubt I'll ever gig my new Fender combo in most bands. But nice to see many have, even just the 40w Rumble with a line out. And one band I gig with runs all instruments thru the PA. I've been using a TC-E BH550+Eden 12" cab for that gig. So my new Rumble should work in that band. And now, no need to carry a separate bag with amp and speaker cable. Just single hand the V3 into the venue, nice. Plus, I run the mixing board from stage, so that Post DI in the Rumble wont be an issue for me.

And finally, look forward to trying this Rumble with my newly arrived Sire P7-5, alder/rswd; hoping in passive mode. For those blues-rock/60's tunes we cover in the new 3pc band. Guess I'm pretty late to the Fender Rumble and Sire bass clubs. But I'm here now and will be hanging around. peace y'all, e.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Did I get one in time?

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Welcome Rumbler #985! You made it. Rumble on.

 

[Moody Tuner]

Interesting question and I don't know the answer. But, I would guess that it does not. Assuming it wouldn't, you wouldn't even need to carry around headphones. Any 1/8" plug will do. When you put any plug into the jack, it defeats at least the speaker. When you find out, let us know. Also, be sure to let @G-Dog know so he can add the info to the wiki pages.

I’ve put a 1/8” adapter into thr HP out and connected my rumble into my audio interface through the XLR out. The speaker was disabled and I was able to track silently into my DAW. No problems.

 

[Jack]

Hi, Jack...

Yes, I am still very impressed...

Thanks guys, good to hear!