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[bhendrix]

That's the one I'm thinking of where the 500 just was not cutting it for me, sound wise. I'd turn it up and more woof-mess, even dialing down the bass etc. Granted, I don't know what I'm doing with it!

Anyway I think I'm going to go ahead and get the 200W, with crossed fingers!

IMO, I don't think you'll be happier with the 200. The 500 has more headroom and the 2X10's give you far more ability to cut through the mix without any boominess. Take the time to learn how to eq properly - try the bright button with the tweeter turned off and eq to taste.

I just had session this afternoon with my power trio buddies and as always, it got loud. Guitar player playing through a tonemaster head with 4X12 cab and heavy drummer - I never had gain past 11 and 1-2 o'clock on volume. We played some stuff haven't done in years - "Trooper", "Behind the Wall of Sleep", "Free Will" and I was loving the tone I was getting and cutting right through. My jazz never sounded better! No fart, just power

Wise man once said "A Fender just sounds better through a Fender"! But I digress....

Don't give up on your 500! The sound you want is in there, just need to take the time to find it!

 

[bhendrix]

Amp stands-isolating the amp from the floor and angling toward yer ears-are a good,low cost, investment.
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Got one of those "On Stage amp ramps" and love it! Projects my sound just where I need it. Do you find a big difference using the ramp compared to a stand that completely isolates the amp from the floor?

 

[BazzaBass]

This is true. I have an earlier post that explains how the gain control works, and how it affects the other controls:
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Thanks - I just tried this (turning off the gain for my passive P and “boominess” disappeared

 

[chupacerveza]

This is true. I have an earlier post that explains how the gain control works, and how it affects the other controls:
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Thanks for that JakobT! Got me thinking and digging around and I found this discussion of the DeltaComp that I thought would be helpful for folks here. It’s from Linnin, not too surprisingly.
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[SoulReflection]

I've said this before but worth repeating... even though I use the words "the 100 is boomy," I recognize it's actually the room. IME It happens in certain rooms and not others, and EQ is the fix. (Relapse now to HPF debate )

There is no debate necessary! If you read through the threads, you will find adjustable HPF's have proven to be a solution to most "boomy room problems" that can't be resolved by anti-coupling devices such as stands and pads and adjustments to EQ. If the anti-coupling devices and EQ don't reduce the problem, it is not the stage or the amp. It is the room acoustics and, the only way to reduce that is with an adjustable HPF.

I am surprised by the number of people who believe the solution is to throw more watts into an amp. That makes the problems worse and results, in some cases, to a total waste of money. Then there is the criticism that it's the amp's fault.

Fact is, an adjustable HPF is excellent insurance against speaker failure and allows you to get the maximum, usable watts from the amp you already have.

If the venues you play do not have these problems, then don't bother with an HPF. But, at the same time, you should not ignore the results of others and consider them snake-oil and unnecessary.

For $70, an adjustable HPF can save you a lot of money and grief.

Please people, read the threads on HPF's and, particularily @Stumbo 's:

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

 

[G-Dog]

This is true. I have an earlier post that explains how the gain control works, and how it affects the other controls:
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Thanks - I just tried this (turning off the gain for my passive P and “boominess” disappeared

Yes, that's a very helpful, excellent post from JakobT. But, how to find it when you need it?
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Thanks for that JakobT! Got me thinking and digging around and I found this discussion of the DeltaComp that I thought would be helpful for folks here. It’s from Linnin, not too surprisingly.
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A great reward for your digging, sucking beer! That exact same post also resides here in the Fender Rumble Talks

Alas, where can such epic informative posts be more easily found, without extensive, time consuming searching? Answer: the Fender Rumble Club Wiki on the Fender Rumble Club page is your source for many such descriptions, instructions, and information. Both of these useful posts are linked there. Just let me know if you find others that should be included there, as well.
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[JakobT]

Yes, that's a very helpful, excellent post from JakobT. But, how to find it when you need it?
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A great reward for your digging, sucking beer! That exact same post also resides here in the Fender Rumble Club

Alas, where can such epic informative posts be more easily found, without extensive, time consuming searching? Answer: the Fender Rumble Talks on the the Fender Rumble Club Wiki page is your source for many such descriptions, instructions, and information. Both of these useful posts are linked there. Just let me know if you find others that should be included there, as well.
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Thanks, @G-Dog! I was, of course, remiss in not mentioning your excellent Wiki page, where so much essential info may be found!

 

[G-Dog]

Thanks, @G-Dog! I was, of course, remiss in not mentioning your excellent Wiki page, where so much essential info may be found!

Not at all, Jake! I didn't see the opportunity to plug the wiki either, until the reference to an identical Rumble Talk on the Fender Forums.

It is with a feeling of deep honor, and great humility, that I am able to curate just a portion of the fabulous information embedded here in the Rumble Club thread. That's why I always want to solicit everyone's help identifying those posts that should be added to the collection. It's a real team effort!
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[Slaphound]

When I was a kid, I lived in Orange, Texas. Red Black owned a flower shop on Green street.

you cannot be serious.

 

[CallMeAl]

There is no debate necessary! If you read through the threads, you will find adjustable HPF's have proven to be a solution to most "boomy room problems" that can't be resolved by anti-coupling devices such as stands and pads and adjustments to EQ. If the anti-coupling devices and EQ don't reduce the problem, it is not the stage or the amp. It is the room acoustics and, the only way to reduce that is with an adjustable HPF.

I am surprised by the number of people who believe the solution is to throw more watts into an amp. That makes the problems worse and results, in some cases, to a total waste of money. Then there is the criticism that it's the amp's fault.

Fact is, an adjustable HPF is excellent insurance against speaker failure and allows you to get the maximum, usable watts from the amp you already have.

If the venues you play do not have these problems, then don't bother with an HPF. But, at the same time, you should not ignore the results of others and consider them snake-oil and unnecessary.

For $70, an adjustable HPF can save you a lot of money and grief.

Please people, read the threads on HPF's and, particularily @Stumbo 's:

High Pass Filter (HPF) and Low Pass Filter (LPF) Mega Thread

I misspoke there, my apologies. I meant EQ has worked for me, at the majority of my gigs. And I jokingly tried to pass the HPF baton to someone who knows more. I did not intend to imply that EQ makes HPF obsolete. Ive bought one myself, but I have not yet tested it at a gig.

By the many personal testimonies on this forum, they are an invaluable part if the bass players tool box. I just am not convinced they are necessary in every situation.

I see it as a trade off. The extra 2 cords, power supply and extra knob are a factor for me. The plug and play simplicity of the Rumble line, particularly the combos, is a main factor for me in using them. I only see myself using the HPF in rooms where I feel it is necessary. If I've had success in a room before, I'll skip it.




And now for something completely different:

 

[GonePlaid]

Got one of those "On Stage amp ramps" and love it! Projects my sound just where I need it. Do you find a big difference using the ramp compared to a stand that completely isolates the amp from the floor?

Depends(I know, big help). Most of the places we play, we're on the floor, which in FL, means cement or tile. If we're on a stage, esp. a hollow wood one, I try to isolate more so that the stage isn't a passive resonator. All three of the stands 'live' in the van so I can choose the one I want. I also have a MudStand mini which I use with my R40.

 

[RumbleMan3]

I think the biggest factor of a clear bass tone that sits right in the mix, is the size of the amp plus the size of the room.

For example I played a rumble 25 combo he other day, thinking it would be as loud and have the same sound quality as my iPhone speakers, actually sounded great and super clear. Clearer than my r100 combo. It was in a medium sized room (not sure on the size but I can get back with rough measurements if someone wants) but I’m guessing it was the size of the amp that made the difference... it was the perfect size for that room.

I think that’s one of the biggest factors that I’ve found. This experience has just reconfirmed it.

 

[CallMeAl]

Got one of those "On Stage amp ramps" and love it! Projects my sound just where I need it. Do you find a big difference using the ramp compared to a stand that completely isolates the amp from the floor?

Hey me too! Its perfect for my 100. IIRC, you have a 500c? Does it seem balanced and stable? My concern with the 500c and that wedge would be the amp being too tall/heavy and tipping over

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

you cannot be serious.

This is true.

 

[JPDsma]

GP, I have recipe for weed killer for your ‘photo studio’ if you need it.....

 

[chupacerveza]

Yes, that's a very helpful, excellent post from JakobT. But, how to find it when you need it?
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A great reward for your digging, sucking beer! That exact same post also resides here in the Fender Rumble Club

Alas, where can such epic informative posts be more easily found, without extensive, time consuming searching? Answer: the Fender Rumble Talks on the Fender Rumble Club Wiki page is your source for many such descriptions, instructions, and information. Both of these useful posts are linked there. Just let me know if you find others that should be included there, as well.
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Sorry G-Dog, I know what a pain it is to go to so much effort and people don't even notice. I don't know why the excellent wiki information doesn't come up when I conduct searches... probably user error. I'll try harder, but thanks for those links and the reminder.

 

[G-Dog]

Sorry G-Dog, I know what a pain it is to go to so much effort and people don't even notice. I don't know why the excellent wiki information doesn't come up when I conduct searches... probably user error. I'll try harder, but thanks for those links and the reminder.

No apology necessary, sir. I, too, have trouble working the search facility with much specific effect, myself. And I do not begrudge anyone finding information wherever they can, and I . I don't work on the wiki for notice but, actually, as much for my own reference as for others'.
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[GonePlaid]

GP, I have recipe for weed killer for your ‘photo studio’ if you need it.....

Nah. They're the only things I'm able to grow.

 

[bhendrix]

Hey me too! Its perfect for my 100. IIRC, you have a 500c? Does it seem balanced and stable? My concern with the 500c and that wedge would be the amp being too tall/heavy and tipping over

When I received the wedge, I had the same thoughts... that this just ain't gonna work. But low and behold, it works perfectly. It's very sturdy and when placed dead center, just a few inches from the edge - it's very solid. Playing loud through my 500 was no problem - the amp never budged! Folds up nice and small and fits in my bass case. I'd buy another if this one somehow got lost

 

[CallMeAl]

When I received the wedge, I had the same thoughts... that this just ain't gonna work. But low and behold, it works perfectly. It's very sturdy and when placed dead center, just a few inches from the edge - it's very solid. Playing loud through my 500 was no problem - the amp never budged! Folds up nice and small and fits in my bass case. I'd buy another if this one somehow got lost

Good to know! I figured if all else fails I could lay the 500c on its side for better balance, but obviously it's nice to have the controls on top! (If/when I get one, that is )

I just got mine, used it at a rehearsal and loved the tilt back. It goes to its first gig on Friday. I like to travel light so its absolutely perfect for me.