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Fender Rumble Club

Hello guys and gals.

I wonder if you could share your expertise with me...

I did a gig recently that had a Fender Rumble 500 and Fender Rumble 410. The tone was amazing! Much better than what I am currently getting from my rig. I very much dug it.

Unfortunately, no one locally has that combination that I can try out and experiment with. I am wondering how much of that sound came from the head, how much came from the cab? If I purchase a Fender Rumble 500 and put it through a Markbass 410 rear ported, will I get close to that sound? Or is the cab a big part of the sound?

Thanks a million!

John
Did you play through the R500h and R410 cab at the gig?

Do you already own the Markbass 410?
 
Did you play through the R500h and R410 cab at the gig?

Do you already own the Markbass 410?

Hello Kip.

I played through a Fender Rumble 500 head (not combo) and a Fender Rumble 410 cab, not sure which one. The tone was really good. Like, really really good. Very tubey.

And yes, I already own the Markbass 410. Which I also like. But it's not tubey like the Rumble rig I played through.

That sound...is it the head or the cab? Or both?

Thanks!

John
 
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Yeah, and I’m really digging the fullness of sound with both cabs. Maybe it’s just me, but something special happens when I run the 500 at 4 ohms. Seems warmer.
That may be what I hear when I use the R112 with the R200c. Not(necessarily)louder, but fuller and warmer.
 
That's disappointing, but you'll probably have to replace it. Have you considered contacting a Fender Service Center and describe the problem to them? They may know if it repairable and what the cost might be.
I’m turning it in next week. I expect to get a free repair if it’s fixable, or a free replacement if it’s not.
 
Hello Kip.

I played through a Fender Rumble 500 head (not combo) and a Fender Rumble 410 cab, not sure which one. The tone was really good. Like, really really good. Very tubey.

And yes, I already own the Markbass 410. Which I also like. But it's not tubey like the Rumble rig I played through.

That sound...is it the head or the cab? Or both?

Thanks!

John
Both
 
Hello Kip.

I played through a Fender Rumble 500 head (not combo) and a Fender Rumble 410 cab, not sure which one. The tone was really good. Like, really really good. Very tubey.

And yes, I already own the Markbass 410. Which I also like. But it's not tubey like the Rumble rig I played through.

That sound...is it the head or the cab? Or both?

Thanks!

John
As Gravedigger stated, it’s probably that Fender combination. Those cabs are designed to get the most out of that head. I have a R500 head and a Rumble 410 cab (and a Rumble 115 cab). Both those cabs sound great using the R500 head. And... Rumbles are so affordable (and reliable).

When I was looking for a new rig, I was skeptical about the Rumbles because of their “affordability/price point”. It’s amazing the quality you get for the price! Really satisfied!

As an aside, I’ve read a fair share of posts on TB mentioning that MarkBass amps were underwhelming. Not sure about the cabs, but the Markbass combos were mentioned as such.

I would definitely go with the R500 head and R410 cab. Especially since you have some experience playing through that rig. Good luck and let us know how things turn out.
 
Im trying to compare which amp to go for, both similar sound but slightly different, either a markbass little mark 3 or tube, or an aguilar tonehammer: Which has more features, which has more warm punch and clarity, amd which is more cost effective.

As a cheaper alternative, and because rumbles are just all round great amps tone wise, im also considering a rumble v3 head if i can find one. Just curious which out of the two amps mentioned above does the rumble share the most tonal characteristics with? Both the markbass LM and aguilar TH sound really similar out of a lot amps, with a prominent midrange clarity and deep bass, however it seems the TH leans more slightly to the low mids side, and LM leans more slightly to the hi mids and treble side.
 
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Is the R800 head the same as the R500 head with just more power? The same pre amp and such?


It's reasonable to assume that the R500h and the R800HD have the same pre-amp, since the controls are the same and seem to work the same. Surely the 800 would want to take advantage of the success of the 500's tone!

But to say that an 800 watt, 2 ohm stable power amp is the same, but with more power, as a 500 watt, 4 ohm stable power amp is a bit oversimplified, I think. Both amps auto-switch from 8 ohm to 4 ohm operation. But the manual switch of the 800 to 2 ohm operation effectively doubles the speaker capacity, far surpassing the 500 in both power and SPL!

Then there is the 800's long called-for Pre/Post switch for the XLR Out, for different strokes, and there's the addition of Speakon connectors, as recommended for such high power amps. Believe I've read that the 500 watt level is a gray area for Speakon "requirements", with some manufacturers using them there and some not, but seems all 800 watt and above amps "should" have Speakons.

So, yeah, no, they're the same amp in many ways, but the 800 is more than just more power, too! HTH.
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No, that’s a mistake, of course. Make that four years, not six. :)
Thanks for spotting that, G-Dog - might be able to get a warranty repair after all!

UPDATE: I talked to the music store where I bought the amp, and found out that I bought it in July 2015. That makes it just over four years old, which puts it within the five years Norwegian consumer legislation allows for lodging a complaint about a defective product, so with any luck I'll be able to get it fixed, or get a replacement. They said to bring it in next week, so we'll see.
Hope it works out. These days I feel good when something even POTENTIALLY goes my way:laugh:
 
It's reasonable to assume that the R500h and the R800HD have the same pre-amp, since the controls are the same and seem to work the same. Surely the 800 would want to take advantage of the success of the 500's tone!

But to say that an 800 watt, 2 ohm stable power amp is the same, but with more power, as a 500 watt, 4 ohm stable power amp is a bit oversimplified, I think. Both amps auto-switch from 8 ohm to 4 ohm operation. But the manual switch of the 800 to 2 ohm operation effectively doubles the speaker capacity, far surpassing the 500 in both power and SPL!

Then there is the 800's long called-for Pre/Post switch for the XLR Out, for different strokes, and there's the addition of Speakon connectors, as recommended for such high power amps. Believe I've read that the 500 watt level is a gray area for Speakon "requirements", with some manufacturers using them there and some not, but seems all 800 watt and above amps "should" have Speakons.

So, yeah, no, they're the same amp in many ways, but the 800 is more than just more power, too! HTH.
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Sounds logical to me. The points are well made. So, how to we determine if it is so, #1?
 
Im trying to compare which amp to go for, both similar sound but slightly different, either a markbass little mark 3 or tube, or an aguilar tonehammer: Which has more features, which has more warm punch and clarity, amd which is more cost effective.

As a cheaper alternative, and because rumbles are just all round great amps tone wise, im also considering a rumble v3 head if i can find one. Just curious which out of the two amps mentioned above does the rumble share the most tonal characteristics with? Both the markbass LM and aguilar TH sound really similar out of a lot amps, with a prominent midrange clarity and deep bass, however it seems the TH leans more slightly to the low mids side, and LM leans more slightly to the hi mids and treble side.
If still had a back and was playing out, I'd "probably" go with the R800h and 2 1-15 cabinets or 2x10 and 1x15. Shoot, I'd bring all 3 cabinets and switch between depending on what was most pleasing for the music being played at the moment. At 67 with physical limitations, give me a 300W RMS 1x15 NEO, 25 lb combo and a Happy Meal.