Fender Rumble Club

[Droopy_TX]

The Rumble Stage 800 has USB output and XLR pre/post output. I usually use the XLR post out (on my old Line 6 amp) to record basslines to my DAW via USB mixer. Has anyone here used the USB output to record tracks with? How does to it compare to XLR out?

Using the USB out into a DAW is certainly simpler, since you don't have route through an external audio interface. Additionally, this eliminates a digital-to-analog conversion of the signal, then another analog-to-digital conversion going back in via the audio interface. Having said this, as long as you're using a reasonable audio interface, and you're setting your levels appropriately, I don't expect you'll hear an appreciable difference between the two methods.

So, I usually use USB. However, I have had occasional issues with the USB interface glitching. The incoming signal will suddenly start sounding about a half second behind. It's not a latency issue. I think it has to do with USB bus congestion. I do what I can to prevent it (plug directly into USB port on computer; no USB hub; make sure the sampling rates match; proper I/O buffer settings, etc.), but I still have problems with USB from to time. I do on my HX Stomp, too.

If I can't get my tracking done without glitches using USB, I will switch to running XLR out into my audio interface. And, as I said, there's not a significant difference. It's just more of a pain to setup; especially if you're recording the bass in stereo. I don't want to have to connect two mic cables. Color me lazy.

FYI: My DAW config... MacBook Pro (Mid 2015), Logic Pro X 10.4.7, Behringer UMC404HD audio interface, Core Audio USB driver for UMC and Rumble 800, Line 6 USB driver for HX Stomp.

 

[rutrho]

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I think dORSY meant to post this outside rutrho's quotes:



And may be referring to this Fender Rumble Club
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I suspect that's the case.... Almost always eq it like this though. Still feels pretty meh a lot of the time.

 

[dORSY]

I suspect that's the case.... Almost always eq it like this though. Still feels pretty meh a lot of the time.View attachment 3582323

Yea, yea, i was editing the thing from my phone, and i'm not really a touchy guy
What cab(s) are You driving? A LOT of the tone depend on the cabs/speakers.
I had a thrill using the line out and the headphone out! Also had to put down the headphones sometimes, 'cause i could not tell if there was sound caming from the combo...
The cab simulation of the rumbles are just damn good.
Also playing with the gain/master can make the sound change!

 

[Ryeguy63]

Just found this club!

I will open with I am a proud owner of a Rumble 100 V3. Nice little amp and a joy to toss in the back seat of the car.

My first complaint is the main volume pot is loose. It's not too much of a bother, but it doesn't have that little bit or resistance the other pots have. Sometimes the vibrations will walk it around. I would like to find a replacement.

The other complaint is I think it might be loosing power. My groups has 2 guitars, drums, and keys. It seems to be struggling to keep up and I have it all the way up to 11. I start to get speaker farts if a crank the bass past noon at those levels. I have not figured out if this is just volume creep with the band.

I was thinking of buying something a little bigger (200W maybe), but someone told me about putting in an eminence 2012. Anyone did this? Or do I just need more power?

I recently replaced the OEM speaker in my 100c with an Eminence basslites2012. It does seem to give the amp a bump in volume, but I'm not sure it's what you'd be looking for. Imo, an upgrade to the 200c or the mighty 500c, both still being very light and portable options, would be the way to go. Hope this helps a little bit. Remeber to keep updated on what you decide.

 

[rutrho]

Yea, yea, i was editing the thing from my phone, and i'm not really a touchy guy
What cab(s) are You driving? A LOT of the tone depend on the cabs/speakers.
I had a thrill using the line out and the headphone out! Also had to put down the headphones sometimes, 'cause i could not tell if there was sound caming from the combo...
The cab simulation of the rumbles are just damn good.
Also playing with the gain/master can make the sound change!

Yeah, it can, but as I play it more I'm coming to the conclusion that as I just don't like the amp much.

I've used it with a couple different 115 cabs, two different 410 cabs, a 210 cab, a 410 and a 115 together and it was always just too muddy and low focused, it felt.
On the other hand... I've been playing with driving the power amp in it with my pre-amp pedal and that was a LOT better, additionally I ran my TKO pre-amp into the power amp of the R500H and it was KILLER. Kinda bummed, lol.

 

[GonePlaid]

Yeah, it can, but as I play it more I'm coming to the conclusion that as I just don't like the amp much.

I've used it with a couple different 115 cabs, two different 410 cabs, a 210 cab, a 410 and a 115 together and it was always just too muddy and low focused, it felt.
On the other hand... I've been playing with driving the power amp in it with my pre-amp pedal and that was a LOT better, additionally I ran my TKO pre-amp into the power amp of the R500H and it was KILLER. Kinda bummed, lol.

FWIW, I'd always run previous amps-both 7ender and other brands-with the bass knob at 1/2 or more. On the 200c, it's usually between 9-10(o'clock)making it roughly 1/3rd or less, then running low-mid at 2+/-, hi-mid about the same.

 

[rutrho]

FWIW, I'd always run previous amps-both 7ender and other brands-with the bass knob at 1/2 or more. On the 200c, it's usually between 9-10(o'clock)making it roughly 1/3rd or less, then running low-mid at 2+/-, hi-mid about the same.

yeah. I have bass at 10, lower/upper mids at 3 and treble at 1. I don't quite get the growl and muwah that I get going direct from my pedal board, or through the headphone/cabsim on my pre-amp or through my peavy. Kinda frustrating and I wonder what sort of tone shaping is going on inside of the amp because of this...

 

[dORSY]

yeah. I have bass at 10, lower/upper mids at 3 and treble at 1. I don't quite get the growl and muwah that I get going direct from my pedal board, or through the headphone/cabsim on my pre-amp or through my peavy. Kinda frustrating and I wonder what sort of tone shaping is going on inside of the amp because of this...

Hard to tell.
I'd go with: gain below 9, bass around 9, low mid 11 or 12, high mid 12-13, treble 10 and crank up master.
There is the magic of the dyna comp at the power stage, my r100c really comes alive with the master 12 and above.
But I really like my active Yamaha's sound without any magic at all, also from line. I like the sound even going to my little mixer and my stereo. So maybe just my instrument is just too good to my taste

 

[Rip Topaz]

Crazy awesome gig last night!!

Took the whole rig (R500h and two 410’s). Was probably overkill but I like having that top cab close to my ears, and besides, it looks cool.

The sound guy was awesome and such an easygoing person to work with, even though we threw a bunch of curveballs at him (lead singer plays sax, two guest rappers..). Bass sounded GREAT!! Well, we all did, but I had to mention the bass cuz.. Rumble!!

Amazing crowd all night, dancing and singing along so loud at times we were able to let them sing by themselves.

 

[OtherLisa]

Stickering commenced:

 

[Mitch_CT]

Picked up the Rumble 410 this weekend and connected it to my Studio 800c. Sounds really great together (contemplating matching grills). Here’s where I’ll show lack of knowledge on my amplification coming from a 60w 112 combo; that additional cab doesn’t really make it louder as I had expected ... rather it articulates each note better. It’s a fuller, more rounded sound which I liked. The challenge I’ve found is managing volume when you’re playing in a smaller (ie practice) area as Master volume goes quickly from full to thin sounding at low numbers (doesn’t feel linear). I have a Sansamp which I believe has a pad on it ... maybe should try using that ... or is this just useless at lower volume needs?

 

[dORSY]

The challenge I’ve found is managing volume when you’re playing in a smaller (ie practice) area as Master volume goes quickly from full to thin sounding at low numbers (doesn’t feel linear). I have a Sansamp which I believe has a pad on it ... maybe should try using that ... or is this just useless at lower volume needs?

Definately. You can get rid of the boom with less low end/high pass filter.
Also consider You are using a modeling amplifier with a lot of effects. Maybe You could save EQ/amp model/whatever effect sets for different places/volume/etc, so basically duplicate them tweaked.

 

[Mitch_CT]

Maybe You could save EQ/amp model/whatever effect sets for different places/volume/etc, so basically duplicate them tweaked.

Good idea. I haven’t yet gotten into the weeds of programming the R800c. Maybe find a few models I like, duplicate them and turn down the pre-amp levels.

 

[J-Bassomatic]

Picked up the Rumble 410 this weekend and connected it to my Studio 800c. Sounds really great together (contemplating matching grills). Here’s where I’ll show lack of knowledge on my amplification coming from a 60w 112 combo; that additional cab doesn’t really make it louder as I had expected ... rather it articulates each note better. It’s a fuller, more rounded sound which I liked. The challenge I’ve found is managing volume when you’re playing in a smaller (ie practice) area as Master volume goes quickly from full to thin sounding at low numbers (doesn’t feel linear). I have a Sansamp which I believe has a pad on it ... maybe should try using that ... or is this just useless at lower volume needs?View attachment 3583971

What is the deal on that J-Bass? Nice neck. What year was it made?

 

[Mitch_CT]

What is the deal on that J-Bass? Nice neck. What year was it made?

It’s the Geddy Lee jazz bass ... I have had it for years - it’s from circa 2007.

 

[BlackCatBassman]

Would it be possible to run three of the Rumble 4x10 cabs using the Rumble 800 head? Would this scenario work...

- Cab 1 out of Speakon 1
- Cab 2 out of Speakon 2
- Cab 3 connected to either Cab 1 or Cab 2

that would give you a stable 2 OHM load, correct?

 

[Stumbo]

Would it be possible to run three of the Rumble 4x10 cabs using the Rumble 800 head? Would this scenario work...

- Cab 1 out of Speakon 1
- Cab 2 out of Speakon 2
- Cab 3 connected to either Cab 1 or Cab 2

that would give you a stable 2 OHM load, correct?

If the cabs are all 8 ohm, works for me.

 

[G-Dog]

Would it be possible to run three of the Rumble 4x10 cabs using the Rumble 800 head? Would this scenario work...

- Cab 1 out of Speakon 1
- Cab 2 out of Speakon 2
- Cab 3 connected to either Cab 1 or Cab 2

that would give you a stable 2 OHM load, correct?

Three 8 ohm cabs give you a 2.67 ohm load, which the Rumble 800 HD head has no problem with. In fact, you could add a 4th 8 ohm cab to get to a 2 ohm total load with no problem for that Rumble head! I still live in hope of seeing someone actually do this.

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The stability of a speaker load depends on the design of the amp it's connected to. Many, many amps are not stable at 2.67 ohms, or worse at 2 ohms. But the Rumble 800 HD head can handle it.

(PS: Not to be confused with the Rumble Stage 800 combo, which can also handle a 2.67 ohm total load; internal speakers plus two external 8 ohm cabs; but not a 2 ohm load. )

Hope this helps.
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[BlackCatBassman]

I appreciate you both! Math and electronics are not my strong suit, I should have realized it could do 4 of the 410s.

Now to contemplate whether it is worth doing or if there's a better set up that could be had for the same amount of cheddar. Using the prices of some of the big name retailers, looks like I could get this done for ~$2200. An intriguing possibility.

 

[ElectricBass72]

Can't believe the sound that Stage 800 produces with 2x10's. I was worried about the low B with just 2x10, but the 800 has no problem dishing out the low notes.