Fender Rumble Club

[B-Mac]

Yes, even with some specs on the website, or in the manual, it can be difficult to keep some of them in mind for planning. That's what this Summary Info chart on the wiki page is for. Lotsa other info on the wiki, too. Or, if you don't see what you want there, just ask here. You see we all like to help.
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Well, there's chaining of extension speaker cabs or chaining (or slaving) of amps, but they aren't exactly the same. One sends power to the cabs, and the other only sends a signal from one amp to another. Again, the Rumble Wiki has a section on chaining amps.

Hope this helps, B-man!
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I appreciate all the help I can get so I can plan things without wasting money in the process.
Thanks.

 

[chupacerveza]

Yes, even with some specs on the website, or in the manual, it can be difficult to keep some of them in mind for planning. That's what this Summary Info chart on the wiki page is for. Lotsa other info on the wiki, too. Or, if you don't see what you want there, just ask here. You see we all like to help.
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Well, there's chaining of extension speaker cabs or chaining (or slaving) of amps, but they aren't exactly the same. One sends power to the cabs, and the other only sends a signal from one amp to another. Again, the Rumble Wiki has a section on chaining amps.

Hope this helps, B-man!
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By the way @G-Dog, the 800 head manual states the frequency centers for the eq in case that’s not on the wiki already. I’m using my phone right now, not my desktop, so it’s not easy for me to tell. Happy to provide the text if it’s helpful.

 

[CallMeAl]

In the daisy-chain example we use both amplifiers, not just their speakers. The connection takes the line out from the first amp to the effects return of the second. It’s a similar concept and looks a lot like an external cab except that both amps draw power instead of the second cab being powered from the first.

I use the FX send to the 2nd FX return. That way I have line out to PA as well if needed!

 

[slowreflex]

Have got a Rumble 40. Am relatively new to bass. Have a Squier Jazz Bass too. I'd like to get a 60s rock sort of sound. Any advice on settings of the amp and/or bass would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[dORSY]

Have got a Rumble 40. Am relatively new to bass. Have a Squier Jazz Bass too. I'd like to get a 60s rock sort of sound. Any advice on settings of the amp and/or bass would be appreciated. Thanks.

What sounds best to You! Experiment.

Also there are some settings by others in the rumble wiki. Great source of information.

 

[G-Dog]

By the way @G-Dog, the 800 head manual states the frequency centers for the eq in case that’s not on the wiki already. I’m using my phone right now, not my desktop, so it’s not easy for me to tell. Happy to provide the text if it’s helpful.

There's a link to the manual on the wiki as, I think, there is for all current Rumbles. Are those freqs different from the other Rumbles? I assume they're in all the manuals?

Thanks, chupy, it's the "data mining" from manuals, websites and posts that helps! Posting by text, or a cropped image, or link, or whatever, is OK by me. Digging out those nuggets of info that could be of interest to a prospective, or current, Rumbler is the hard work where help is always appreciated.
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Have got a Rumble 40. Am relatively new to bass. Have a Squier Jazz Bass too. I'd like to get a 60s rock sort of sound. Any advice on settings of the amp and/or bass would be appreciated. Thanks.

Yessir, flexy! dORSY is referring to the Rumble Club TONE POOL linked on the Rumble Club Wiki page. There are also Rumble Talks about Tone Tips, Setting your Gain Structure, Tone Terms, and how the Overdrive, Gain, Level & Drive all interact to suit your taste.
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[TerribleTim68]

Have got a Rumble 40. Am relatively new to bass. Have a Squier Jazz Bass too. I'd like to get a 60s rock sort of sound. Any advice on settings of the amp and/or bass would be appreciated. Thanks.

I kinda feel like your Jazz bass will lend itself to that tone more so than the amp settings. I tend to lean on the SBL method for amp settings. I set my low at 2 o'clock, my amp has a low-mid and a high-mid, so I set the low-mid at 2 o'clock and then high-mid and high both get set at high noon. That's what I like. But start at high noon on everything and then go from there. Take 1 knob and twist it to "full on", see how that sounds, then twist it to "full off" and see how that sounds. Then put it back to high noon and move to the next knob. You'll start to see what each one does to your tone and you'll start to find something that pleases your ears. What pleases my ears will be totally different than what pleases yours. Like my other thread where I stated how I can't seem to enjoy distortion in my playing, but for whatever reason I like it when other people do it. Thus, you have to play with it and learn what you like.

 

[G-Dog]

By the way @G-Dog, the 800 head manual states the frequency centers for the eq in case that’s not on the wiki already. I’m using my phone right now, not my desktop, so it’s not easy for me to tell. Happy to provide the text if it’s helpful.

You got me curious, chuy, so I checked the 800 HD manual and the 40-500 manual and the Tone Controls and Shape Filters are all alike, but the Effects Loops, Line Out and Headphones are different! Hmmm, who knew?

ps: I've linked this post from the Rumble Wiki under the Summary Info chart.

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[chupacerveza]

You got me curious, chuy, so I checked the 800 HD manual and the 40-500 manual and the Tone Controls and Shape Filters are all alike, but the Effects Loops, Line Out and Headphones are different! Hmmm, who knew?

ps: I've linked this post from the Rumble Wiki under the Summary Info chart.

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Huh...! I wonder how the specs compare to other modern ICE units... like those with USB jacks....

 

[G-Dog]

Huh...! I wonder how the specs compare to other modern ICE units... like those with USB jacks....

?? I'm not sure what your driving at here, chupa. In the case of these non-modeling Rumbles, these are analog pre-amp controls and filters, not necessarily having anything to do with the ICE power amp other than feeding them the signal, which can be bypassed at the FX Return. Other manufacturers are free to use whatever type, and frequency spec, of pre-amp controls or filters they like, regardless of ICE, or other type, power amp(s). I'd expect some may be similar while others quite different.

For example, I was just looking at the manual of my Bassman 150, which I just dragged out of mothballs today to install semi-permanently at my regular church gig. It's got very similar Bass and Treble freqs, but the Low-Mid and Hi-Mid both have a selectable Freq range and a selectable Level range. Granted, not ICE powered, but I believe the separation of pre & power amps is still "a thing", no?

PS: My Bassman 500 has an ICE power amp and a two channel pre-amp, with cut-only Vintage channel and modern Active channel, which includes a selectable Mid-range control.

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[CallMeAl]

Just came back from a small brew pub gig with my faithful Rumble 100. First few songs sounded a bit weak, so i pushed in the vintage and... boom! sweet Rumble goodness!

I’ve reported before about my vintage on/off experimenting. I wonder if it just works for some rooms, and not others? IDK, just very glad I had the option. Very much enjoyed my Rumble tonight.

 

[Aaron Houts]

Yes, the R40 is a 10. I've never really pushed it. V @ 12, max.
No, the B25 has developed an annoying hum. I've tried switching cables, incl. power cord, and nothing stops the hum, which stays the same no matter what knob(s) I turn. I even put the factory 10" back in to see if that cured it. Nope. It does not have a tweeter. The cab is very sturdily built(also heavy)and that may have something to do with the fuller sound.
AFA dispersion:sound coming outta 4 speakers instead of 1.

Mike,
You have GOT to get that Bassman fixed.
Even if only to sell it.
It’s a treasure going to waste if you don’t!
These tiltback Bassman amps are something special.
They should be put back into rotation!

Well, I just picked up a Roland DS88 a couple of months ago to do the same thing...fill out the sound in a trio. I highly recommend the DS88. I can't help you much with your amp questions, however I've read reviews of folks running keyboards and/or key bass through various Rumble amps and being very happy. My Rumble 40 handles the keyboard fine at healthy bedroom practice volumes...I haven't tried anything louder yet.
Good luck,
Bob

Thanks, Bob!
I can’t wait to get my Juno DS88.
Do you have a lot of songs where you play the bass on keys?

If it just for monitoring purposes, two keyboardist friends of mine have both switched from traditional on-stage amps and floor wedges to using those personal monitors that you can mount on a mic stand right over the keyboard. I am not certain of the model they use, but the Mackie SRM150 looks exactly like units they have.

Yes, Droo, I got that Mackie last year just before back surgery. It's pretty cool! I have since found there are many other makes and models with more features and effects, but the same basic 150 watt amp and speaker!

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I thought I checked, but maybe I missed it, are the Mackies battery powered?

 

[GonePlaid]

Mike,
You have GOT to get that Bassman fixed.
Even if only to sell it.
It’s a treasure going to waste if you don’t!
These tiltback Bassman amps are something special.
They should be put back into rotation!

Thanks, Bob!
I can’t wait to get my Juno DS88.
Do you have a lot of songs where you play the bass on keys?


I thought I checked, but maybe I missed it, are the Mackies battery powered?

I just haven't had the chance to get the B25 down to the tech in WPB. Unless it turns out to be ng, it'll be repaired and resurrected.
AFAIK those Mackies are not battery powered.

 

[GonePlaid]

Just came back from a small brew pub gig with my faithful Rumble 100. First few songs sounded a bit weak, so i pushed in the vintage and... boom! sweet Rumble goodness!

I’ve reported before about my vintage on/off experimenting. I wonder if it just works for some rooms, and not others? IDK, just very glad I had the option. Very much enjoyed my Rumble tonight.

Agreed. It's very useful in some rooms, not so much in others. Also not good on my R40 with my active Les Paul 5er. I couldn't find any combination of settings on the amp or the bass that suited the situation(Concert band playing string bass parts). I usually use my Ibanez semi-hollow for that gig, but I hadn't taken the LPB25 out for awhile. In fact, that bass only works well with the R200c-of the amps I use.

 

[G-Dog]

Yes, Droo, I got that Mackie last year just before back surgery. It's pretty cool! I have since found there are many other makes and models with more features and effects, but the same basic 150 watt amp and speaker!

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... ... I thought I checked, but maybe I missed it, are the Mackies battery powered?

... ... AFAIK those Mackies are not battery powered.

No, the Mackie SRM150, and the many other makes and models in that same form factor (some with reverb or echo!), are not battery powered. They are, in fact, 150 watt amps that would suck the life outta good sized set o' batt'ries before you could finish one song! Sorry if that sleek, cableless marketing photo I posted led you to think otherwise.
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[CallMeAl]

Agreed. It's very useful in some rooms, not so much in others. Also not good on my R40 with my active Les Paul 5er. I couldn't find any combination of settings on the amp or the bass that suited the situation(Concert band playing string bass parts). I usually use my Ibanez semi-hollow for that gig, but I hadn't taken the LPB25 out for awhile. In fact, that bass only works well with the R200c-of the amps I use.

Right now I’m down to 2 P basses, but once I get my 500 locked down (finally!) I’ll be looking to swap one out for a Jazz. So looking forward to exploring the differences!

 

[G-Dog]

I seriously considered getting a third 100, since that’s the cheapest option. But I’ll take it as a sign to get something bigger. Real arm twister of a decision, that is

... ... once I get my 500 locked down (finally!) ... ...

Too bad there's such a (seemingly) big gap between the 200 and 500 combos, eh? Something like a 350ish combo, running 200ish at 8 ohms, would be a more convenient addition to your arsenal, no? That, with just one 100 would get you a very substantial power level. But what unique speaker(s) would the 350ish have, huh? Maybe it should have the 2x10s and the 500 should have 2x12s! Not that I would wish any more weight on the current 500 owners. (sigh) If only . . .
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[GonePlaid]

Right now I’m down to 2 P basses, but once I get my 500 locked down (finally!) I’ll be looking to swap one out for a Jazz. So looking forward to exploring the differences!

As I'm sure has been noticed, I'm a mainly Gibson(or Epi)man. I started on a Gibson EB-3 and got used to the neck profile on their basses. Nothing against 7enders, but the neck seems to put extra strain on my already hurting left hand(my backup is a Squire VM Jaguar SS). The semi-hollow Ibanez was purchased 'cos I couldn't justify the expense of a Gibby EB-2-or the Epi equivalent-for its comparatively little use.

 

[GonePlaid]

Too bad there's such a (seemingly) big gap between the 200 and 500 combos, eh? Something like a 350ish combo, running 200ish at 8 ohms, would be a more convenient addition to your arsenal, no? That, with just one 100 would get you a very substantial power level. But what unique speaker(s) would the 350ish have, huh? Maybe it should have the 2x10s and the 500 should have 2x12s! Not that I would wish any more weight on the current 500 owners. (sigh) If only . . .
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I've looked at some other brands of 212 cabs and they're either too heavy, too expensive, or both. In one case, according to reviews, the one was too mid-rangey for my tastes. I didn't wanna fork over the $ to order one then have to pay return shipping.

 

[Droopy_TX]

I thought I checked, but maybe I missed it, are the Mackies battery powered?

Sorry, Aaron, I missed the battery-powered prerequisite.